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Interestingly Ferrari has also always finished in Top3 in WCC since 1994. Quite remarkable consistency, I don't think any other team has ever achieved that. More amazingly it looks like there is no stopping of them to stay in Top3 for many years to come. :p :
As known has both Massa and Raikkonen have repeatedly spoken of a lack of down force in the F60 and now Ferrari has fired the British engineer John Iley - who was the head (responsible?) of aerodynamics and wind tunnel. IQuote:
Originally Posted by jens
t looks no better that he has to pay “the price” for the poor competitiveness of the F60 under the season 2009.
Among the technical English and Ferrari has made an agreement for an immediate separation, confirmed six days ago after the transfer of the GP of Germany.
At the time the task appears be in the hands of ikolas Tombazis – so far.
:)
As head Aerodynamicist, Iley was responsible for not interpreting the rules about diffusers.
I share your view Tamb, however, had the DDD been deemed illegal, Ferrari and Red Bull would be head of the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
You've never been an F1 aerodynamicist then.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
It's great to sack people and all but the question always is do they have anyone better to take his place? I guess it's the Italian way.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
WTF is that supposed to mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
Please do expound on this national bussiness practice in Italy!
Or guess again!
Because I'm guessing that you are talking out of your @$$
He's just thinking that in Italy everything works like in Finland! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
Good one :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
:rotflmao:
Heh. In the early 90's until Todt's arrival Ferrari was certainly in a bit of a mess. Hopefully the team will be managed better this time. =)Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
Italian way? Nah, I suppose there is still some way to go before reaching the level of mess Alfa Romeo experienced in the 80's. :p : Or dare I say... Life or Andrea Moda. :hmph:
Mind your manners, if you have any. Ferrari do have a history of sacking people when something goes wrong. Remember Fiorio, Prost etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
Yeah, you are right, history is the right word given that it happened 20 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
It's nice that you are starting to agree with me! I even saw you defending Räikkönen the other day! Wow :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Must have been a mistake! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
Seriously, I'll defend both Ferrari drivers as much as possible in a given condition, I'll even defend other drivers if I believe is right, heck I even defended Lewis Hamilton after last race! ;)
You’re the second Smoked Herring this week I heard make an obtuse and insulting reference to ItaliansQuote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
when they meant something less inclusive. I've kicked real men’s @ss's for less.
How do you like those manners you insensitive ill-mannered ignorant pussy.?
Calm down guys, I don't want the mods to close this thread because of your personal war.
Tombazis is no slouch. He worked for Ferrari during the 2000-2003 championship winning years, then went to Mclaren for the 2005 car, then returned to Ferrari.Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
I once even thought that he might have been on a mission at McLaren, trying to learn what they know and thus have the knowledge of the best 2 teams on the grid.
Again, watch your language son. An American insulted by a sentence "I guess it's the Italian way". You've got serious problems, dear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
Can't you guys take this to PMs?
It really has nothing to do with this thread.
Hungarian GP FP1 is over and it isn't looking bad, but it isn't rosy either.
Abysmal performance in FP2.
Prove it! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Not nearly the kind of problems your bigoted @ss does laddie! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
It's written black on white in that thread about how Niki Lauda can come up with some of the stupidest comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Girlies, please take your handbag session out of this thread. :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
Let's keep the thread about Ferrari.
They did bad in FP1 and awful in FP2.
Kimi did so so and Felipe was slower in the afternoon than this morning by 3 tenths of a second.
And all this using the softer tire in the afternoon and the harder one in the morning. :\
Don’t go gettin' your panty’s in a bunch ;) ,Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
barring any failures or collisions both Ferrari's will finish in the points. About like last race,
with Kimi getting the podium this race!
Well, maybe I need to remind you that last race only one Ferrari finished the race?! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
PS: Keep that kool aid away, it's messing with your brain already! :p :
A great result today! :up:
The race pace was good and consistent.
A weekend of contrasts.
But very good job by kimi, he was doing very consistant times through the race, more so than Hamilton, but we just lacked ultimate speed today.
Ferrari are back?
Forza Ferrari!
:D This made my day:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77551
I'm not a Ferrari fan but I like how they didn't beat around the bush.
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
And the slap in Mateschitz' face is well deserved after his backstabbing move.
So Ferrari agreed to let Alguersuari test but RedBull can't be gentlemen enough to return the favor.
Williams had the right to refuse the test and now I fully accept their stance.
How valuable is Massa?
I've had this burning question before Massa received his injury, but even more so after Hungary. If Kimi gets the boot, then will Massa be the team leader if say Alonso takes the scarlet seat?
Massa may just be a lot easier to ditch for an average driver who can help Ferrari's number 1 driver.
Not sure I understand your logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
Anyway Massa has been the team leader for the last 2 seasons and he is very well integrated in the team.
I'd say Massa was integral to Ferrari....he was still very rough when he joined Ferrari and it's clear Schumacher has helped him hone his natural talent into more consistency.
There's no reason to dump Massa, regardless of who might be his team mate in 2010. And if it's Alonso, he'll need to be respectful of the existing team members this time around...he's won't be protected by his 'daddy' Flavio and allowed to stomp and scream like a brat.
Really. Massa has been team leader?Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
You learn something new every day :D
I think that's a good thing for you, as I was already a bit concerned by your level!Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Now, just keep learning! :D
It must just be me but can you explain why a driver that wasn't the most reliable or quickest in the team would be Team Leader over the World Champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Just asking like ;)
Apparently you think that being a team leader = number one status.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
IMO this is not the case.
Ferrari did offer and does offer equal status and possibilities to both their drivers, it's up to the drivers to take up the role of team leader (Felipe) or not (Kimi).
You see a bit of thinking would have helped you understand better before posting rubbish.