He is :) he was good last year too wasn't he.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Did anyone listen to the Radio 5 commentary - how did Villeneuve do?
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He is :) he was good last year too wasn't he.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Did anyone listen to the Radio 5 commentary - how did Villeneuve do?
Not about the bbc coverage but I noticed that the graphic running along the bottom of the screen giving you constant race positions, never had Bruno Senna on, with how far off the leader he was or Nico Hulkenberg after his early spin.
Does anyone know why Senna wasn't shown clearly, it annoyed me.
I know what you mean, he is a bit....vulcan. using 20 words where three will do. He's a lot like Allen, tries to sound excited - but just sounds forced and uninterested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...in_Grand_Prix/Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyL
5Live no longer option on Freeview :(
For me its either portable radio with the telly on or PC
I'm still happy to see the camaraderie (or lack of) between DC and EJ :p :
I don't really like his commentary either. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but there's something inherently irritating with his style of presentation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I think they should get James Corden in to liven things up a bit!
Please no, I find him irritating.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Triumph
As for Villeneuve, I found him quite interesting - probably better than I was expecting. Legard is still commentating for radio, as he did years ago....he needs to be told he's now on TV.
The influence of Ralf Schumacher lives on!
Did you notice on the top left they had the driver names and positions, all of them were shortened versions of the drivers last name. Apart from Schumacher who is "MSC". Where you'd expect it to be "SCH".
Had pre-race commentary from James Allen for One HD. It was good. Maybe he'll end up back as a commentator for BBC at some point, if he keeps a cooler head in the box and doesn't use the told-you-so's and fawning over drivers.
Very well I thought. He has a pretty good sense of humour and was pretty insightful on several occasions. JV also put Crofty in his place a few times when Crofty said something a bit daft.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyL
Perhaps Ralf is planning a return?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
I noticed that, and also Chandhok was "CHD" when you'd expect "CHA". Off hand, I can't think of another "CHA" out there but anyway...
Generally I couldn't complain about most of it, there were a few errors with misidentification but it was the first race of the year, so I can forgive it at this stage. Take that Hispania pit stop when they thought it was Virgin; given the identical colour schemes of the mechanics, I thought it was them too.
There were a couple of things that slightly niggled, the first because they mentioned it more than once: that Michael Schumacher was facing knockout qualifying for the first time. Wrong: it came in for 2006, his final season. Granted, they've changed the times of each part since then, but it was still a knockout format. The other was that "Nigel Mansell enjoyed having that number 1 on his car", according to Jake; not sure if it really counts as an error, since of course he never defended his title but did carry the number 1 when he defended his IndyCar title. I put that one down to Jake still being the new boy, although surely around 1993 virtually everyone in Britain had some idea of what an IndyCar was.
Otherwise, though, the one thing that needs changing is the one thing beyond the BBC's control: bring back the "ladder" of names for qualifying! It was there in the race but strangely absent in the one session where it could have been of more use...
The on screen grpahics...which I assume are direct from the FIA and local broadcaster weren't good. They need refining.
Legard, I agree with others, just made too many silly mistakes and is the weak link. Other than that the BBC team is good...Brundle is his usual self, presenters work well and pit team of Ted and Leigh works well getting info from the garages and interviews with retirees.
The BBC can't do anything about the graphics
Yes, they can. They can tell whoever deals with them that they need improving and how they need improving. The BBC being one of the biggest F1 broadcasters would be hard to ignore.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy2k8
I've probably said this before, but I didn't think Legard was all that great on the radio either, for exactly the same reasons - he was always too verbose even for that medium, in my view. He strikes me as an excellent sports correspondent and reporter, but a poor commentator. The best man for the TV job is surely Ben Edwards, and I think the BBC has made a big mistake in not hiring him.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I wasn't convinced at first but during the race they were very good. Plus they fixed the lap counter so it counted up rather than down, a minor thing which has annoyed me for many years :)Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
Quite so! The commentators always talked about laps counting upwards, but the counter counted down so without some mental maths you weren't entirely sure what they were talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by christophulus
Swap Legard and Crofty round.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Easier said than done. Crofty works for USP, an independent company which provides the 5 Live programmes to the BBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Can't be that hard. Lee McKenzie subbed for Holly Samos a couple of years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
Wasn't that when Holly was on maternity leave? The point is that Legard can't simply be shifted into what many would perceive as the less glamourous job as him and Croft are employed by different companies. For that to work the BBC would have to sack him (for what?) or make him redundant (which rules out legally putting someone else in his post) or wait for his contract to end.
Why go to all that trouble when we, the viewers, can simply press a red button?
5Live commentary option no longer on Freeview.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
Get freesat or a DAB radio and move with the timesQuote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Pretty much. The BBC want to keep their TV presenting team for F1 ('red button' not included) to those contracted to them, not freelancers which David Croft is - recall he used to commentate on GP2 on ITV4 a couple of years ago and also covered the Goodwood Revival for ITV last year. Even Ted Kravitz pops up reading the sports news on the BBC News Channel from time to time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
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Just a note about Malaysia. If you're recording it be aware that the race coverage starts of on BBC1 but switches to BBC2 at 10am to make way for the Pope's speech (notwithstanding that he should be in prison for perverting the course of justice).
Most PVRs should automatically switch over, but check your settings otherwise you'll miss the thunderstorm. ;)
WTF - what has the pope done to deserve to be on BBC1, and in that case why not start the race on BBC2. we're not even a catholic (even very religous at all) country. Sunday is for F1, not fairy storiesQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
I am literally speechless. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
I couldn't give a tinker's cuss which channel the race is on, so long as it's the same one from start to finish. Switching it halfway is plain daft.
Agreed, although I imagine part of their contract is to put it on BBC1 at all times.
On another note, I thought Legard was much improved this weekend. He was generally calmer, but spoiled it in the last two laps after Webber hit Hamilton - going into radio overdrive mode for the last two laps and yelling about the things we can blatantly see. Shame.
I had Five Live on, Legard and Brundle nearly tipped me over the edge during the Bahrain borefest and I wasn't going to risk that again. From the tiny amount I've seen of the highlights on the red button I believe I made the right call.
Agreed :up: I've sometimes switched between the two commentary teams, only to get Brundle's insights, but today it was Crofty & Ant all the way. They make a great team and describe the race superbly. No more Legard (or sadly Brundle) for me during the race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
Apart from the last two laps I don't recall them being that annoying. Star of the show is Mike Gascoyne on the pit wall, basically acting as a third commentator, chatting about Hamilton moving through the field. That was one thing ITV got right, basically stalking a team for the weekend and chatting to an engineer during the race. More please!
Couple of gems in the qualifying today...
Eddie Jordan claiming credit for Kovalainen getting into Q2 - he taught Mike Gascoyne everything he knows apparently :)
And from Martin: "Petrov looks like he's wrestling an octopus in there." I wonder how long he'd been working on that one.
Star of the show today was EJ's shirt. He certainly was sweaty, and I loved Jake's little dig once he'd got changed and they'd moved into Lotus hospitality: "it's nice and cool in here for you" :laugh:
EJ certainly was struggling wasn't he?! Good to see DC talking a bit about the DTM - hopefully it will give the DTM a bit more coverage in the UK.
Unfortunately it's on ESPN again this year :(Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
Anyone complaining about Legard annoying them... hit the red button right now and listen to a man who should in no way be allowed near a microphone for any reason summarise Q1, Q2 and the first half of Q3.
Who is it? I don't have the red button.Quote:
Originally Posted by Somebody
No idea who it is, but his delivery is incredibly patronising...