If IRC continues to develop the way it has done this year then maybe Abarth would be better off staying there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorsportfun
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If IRC continues to develop the way it has done this year then maybe Abarth would be better off staying there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorsportfun
WRC is now not good, but IRC is a series for privateers, not for Manufacturers.
4 in the WRC (Citroen, Ford, Subaru and Suzuki... interested to a works programme: Volkswagen and Abarth)
1 in the IRC (Abarth, Peugeot is just present as importers)
:rolleyes:
Peugeot are running a works team on Monte, and Skoda's plans aren't clear yet whether it will be a full works team or works supported. If Suzuki leave WRC, then...Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorsportfun
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Originally Posted by RS
Skoda, for the moment, don't have any plan to run a works team in the IRC, as VW wants to use Dakar budget to develop a Scirocco. Two programmes together are not possible. Peugeot-Citroen docet.
Peugeot works in Monaco? Wow, great, 2 cars in just a rally, and the rest of the season? Privateers? :rolleyes: :D
IRC and WRC are different championships, that it like saying Audi cannot run Lemans because VW wants to run in WRC. Skoda should announce their plans soon, I think it is more likely that they will support Kopecky's team, but they will pay towards this as they did in 2006 and 2007 WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorsportfun
I think Abarth and VW should both wait for technical rules and promoter contracts to be settled before commiting to the WRC.
The problem for Skoda is, as they are owned by VW, what Skoda does is what they are told by VW, and such how much of a budget they get. This I think was one of the problems before - they needed much more money to test and develop. As we've seen from Suzuki, if you're going to do a Championship properly, you need a proper budget. Maybe Skoda will do IRC, and VW the WRC, who knows??Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
I totally agree with AndyRAC. VW don't touch the budget for Skoda, but it will delete the works programme in the Dakar (not as interesting for the media as some years ago). Actually, WRC (although is bad compared to many series like F1, GP2, WTCC, etc.) is better than Dakar rallies, has a better coverage.
Of theese only WRC is a championship the other is a challenge.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
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Originally Posted by Motorsportfun
From my point of view Dakar has a rather good media coverage :confused:
That is just because there are much French succesful drivers there, as example Stéphane Peterhansel, Luc Alphand, Jean-Louis Schlesser. You had also Bruno Saby, Jean-Pierre Fontenay... in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
Dakar has a good coverage just because is organized by ASO and there are loads of French successful drivers. Out of France, the media coverage is so low...
That's right, IRC is a challenge, but WRC is rather easy if your name is Loeb ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Just heard that Suzuki will NOT take part in next year WRC, maybe it is old news but new to me.
Where did you hear this? I'd like confirmation...Quote:
Originally Posted by ProRally
Mikkelsen spoke in Autosport Magazine .. he wants to drive for Subaru ..
Richards confirmed P.Solberg & Atkinson for M1 Team.. and said maybe a second M1 Team...
No doubt Mikkelsen wants to drive a M1 Team .. Because he wants to be official driver.. So a M1 team make obligatory 2 cars ..
So maybe a second Team M1 with Subaru .. with 2 drivers .. Mikkelsen and... Marcus ?
Sure Brice Tiribassi is a 'works driver'?Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmarcus21
Define "works"...
tests driver you want to say Buzz ?
There's no way that's going to happen. Marcus has already told that he's not coming back.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmarcus21
They can’t run another M1 team, but they can run as many cars as they like in SWRT.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmarcus21
Main difference for Mikkelsen is that he then could run the new parts homologated after 1/1 (dampers++).
Also he (or rather his father) is not a big fan of the Adapta team :D
If you have enough money, and dont need sponsors, you can demand to have a 'works' car.... step forward Brice and Khaled.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Exactly, just becuase they are not register for M1 Team, does not mean they can't score driver points, as an SWRT driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Im not surprised ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
But seriously speaking I think Subaru is the best place for Mikkelsen if he want soon to become a works driver, it's likely that from there comes the next avilable seat.
It smacks a bit of desperation that he would sacrifice winning rally’s, for the prestige of wearing works overalls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Why not? I checked Manufacturer and Manufacturer Team rules and there is no limitation that I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Hm.. maybe they can, don’t tell Malcolm Wilson ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Seriously what would be the point with it? Use more money and compete with themselves for 3`rd place in Manufactures Championship?
I didn't say there would be any point, I merely noted that there doesn't appear to be limitations.
I think every driver who are seriously trying in WRC events goal is to become works drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
then its fame they seek, not success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
I would say that they want to become professional rally drivers, who get money from what they do, instead of bringing the money every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
I believe what they seek is getting paid and not to have to pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
Which M2 driver has won any rally?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
A 2009 Subaru should at least be as good as a 2008 Citroen and Ford (hopefully).
So it's just a job then?Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
If Subaru ran two M1 teams, they couldn't both score for 'Subaru' surely.
If you get paid then yes, don't know how else to call it.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Just been looking at Ofcoms website (sorry its part of my job!) and no licenses have been requested for Wales during the Rally weekend - also its passed the time to put an application in.
It will be a shame to to be able to hear event information on FM - will have to take the iPod touch and listen to WRC radio over the internet.
I think Radio LeMans are doing coverage of Rally GB again this year, last year they had Mark James as part of the commentators. Better than the usual WRC Radio.Quote:
Originally Posted by wrc_flipper
No information on the wales rally gb site - apart from an old link - Its quite expensive to do an station for the weekend - perhaps they are not bothering.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
At least we have some live coverage of the sport on the internet.
Citroen Sport confirm M2 team for 09 and Rautenbach will be one of the drivers
http://rallybuzz.stagetimes.com/citr...nfirm-m2-2009/
Good with a M2 team, but with rautenbach ??Quote:
Originally Posted by c4
Aava and Ogier had been a proper choice.
or someone else like Wilks, Mikkelssen or Meeke.
News and rumours : http://planetemarcus.free.fr/team09.htm
I know he's bought the seat and therefore has a right to be there but..........Quote:
Originally Posted by c4
Sorry, what a waste of a good seat going by his performances so far. maybe he will improve but I suspect not.