Openwheel drivers to NASCAR

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Originally Posted by JasonD

Ummm if guys can race in NASCAR into their 50's, cant it be a retirement league?

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There's a lot more incentive to race for a long time in NASCAR since the drivers actually get paid to drive . . . . instead of having to pay the team for the honor of driving their car like they do in American Open Wheel Racing. You can't continue to drive for years in America Open Wheel Racing when you continue to have to pay the team. After a while, the drivers wise up.

When American Open Wheel racing was actually a viable racing series Mario Andretti won a CART race at the age of 53. The oldest NASCAR driver to ever win a race was Harry Gant at the age of 52.

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Originally Posted by JasonD

. . . . . considering how many people look at it as "Hill Billy Racin".

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and considering how many fans of American Open Wheel Racing are drool-on-your-shirt stupid.

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When American Open Wheel racing was actually a viable racing series Mario Andretti won a CART race at the age of 53. The oldest NASCAR driver to ever win a race was Harry Gant at the age of 52.

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The exception to the rule. As CART(prior to that USAC) became more competitive the ages started tumbling down

JV is the quickest Toyota in his first Cup test drive in a COT!

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62258

Go JV!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Lee Roy

There's a lot more incentive to race for a long time in NASCAR since the drivers actually get paid to drive . . . . instead of having to pay the team for the honor of driving their car like they do in American Open Wheel Racing. You can't continue to drive for years in America Open Wheel Racing when you continue to have to pay the team. After a while, the drivers wise up.

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Granted A LOT of drivers are ride buyers, but its their sponsor flipping the bill and they are getting paid thought be it small by the sponsor.

Now dont forget we're looking at OW from both sides of the ocean. Last I checked JPM was getting PAID, JV was getting PAID(took at HUGE paycut when he joined sauber though), Dario is getting PAID, PT is getting PAID.

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Originally Posted by Lee Roy

and considering how many fans of American Open Wheel Racing are drool-on-your-shirt stupid.

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Well thats just not nice. I think you will agree that NASCAR has a bad rap but considering some of the crap SOME fans pull it gives a real black eye to the series. When was the last time you saw OW fans pelting a winning driver with beer cans? Yes there was the 2005 US GP with people throwing stuff on the track, which was a disgrace, and Im not saying you support that kind of attitude, but in the eyes of the world how does that make NASCAR look? Pretty bad is the only answer.

Im a fan of OW first and NASCAR second, but I am very excited to see some of my favourite drivers going to NASCAR.

With NASCAR theres a race almost every week, full fields, no canceled events, and actual passing. Its good stuff.

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Originally Posted by JasonD

When was the last time you saw OW fans pelting a winning driver with beer cans? Yes there was the 2005 US GP with people throwing stuff on the track, which was a disgrace, . . . .

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Saw it first hand. I was there.

Why don't you just leave the "Hill-billy" **** over on the OW forums. We don't need it around here.

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Originally Posted by Lee Roy

Saw it first hand. I was there.

Why don't you just leave the "Hill-billy" **** over on the OW forums. We don't need it around here.

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Kinda like how we dont need "drool-on-your-shirt stupid" comments either? :rolleyes:

Back on topic though, how about JV being the #1 Toyota yesterday? I was a little surprised, I thought it might take him more time. But testing is quite different than racing.

JV Rawks - 3 fast today - eyes are opening

I was in the crowd cheering for JV in 1995 when he won at Road America ( after his Indy 500 victory ) . Its great to have him back in a series where driver tallent is importent .

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Originally Posted by JasonD

Well thats just not nice. I think you will agree that NASCAR has a bad rap but considering some of the crap SOME fans pull it gives a real black eye to the series. When was the last time you saw OW fans pelting a winning driver with beer cans? Yes there was the 2005 US GP with people throwing stuff on the track, which was a disgrace, and Im not saying you support that kind of attitude, but in the eyes of the world how does that make NASCAR look? Pretty bad is the only answer.

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Its easy to sympathise with the fans but I certainly wouldn't advocate throwing crap onto a car just because its a #24 Dupont Chevy!

Ooooohh... I don't know....

it's tough to answer!

I remember one of the Rio CART races ended under yellow and the Brazillian fans booed!

I remember a Pepsi 400 (I know there were others but Daytona was memorable for some reason) there were boos and beer cans and crap thrown at the end of the race because the race ended under yellow. So what did NASCAR do next? They came up with the green/white/chequer!

In F1 when Barrichello moved over to let Schumacher through to win in Austria in 2001/2002, there were boos at the end of the race.

Seriously, I wish F1 fans threw rubbish and crap on to race tracks in the late 1990s/early 2000s for the parades we had to put up with!

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