Arizona shooting range accident

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Originally Posted by steveaki13

I personally think only well trained professionals need to get near guns

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To a degree I agree with you. But I think respect is the greatest tool when it comes to handling guns. Even the most proficient people in all walks of life and fields make mistakes if they don't respect their situation.

A good dose of common sense doesn't hurt either :)

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Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz

You need to have popular support to enforce laws. Otherwise you'll have another case of brutal social engineering of the kind that often happened over the last hundred years.

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Many a right-wing American one encounters could, in my experience, do with a bit of brutal social engineering.

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Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz

Wealthy and educated Brits, knives, journalists, Syrian desert...

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Your point being?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Many a right-wing American one encounters could, in my experience, do with a bit of brutal social engineering.

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Has a bit of a chuckle when I read this :laugh:

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Your point being?

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Avoid making sweeping generalizations based on an individual case.

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Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz

Avoid making sweeping generalizations based on an individual case.

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Well said sir.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Many a right-wing American one encounters could, in my experience, do with a bit of brutal social engineering.

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Such a confident statement doesn't surprise me one single bit. I've often seen the proponents of progressive and liberal views trying to show those down somebody else's throat.

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Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz

Such a confident statement doesn't surprise me one single bit. I've often seen the proponents of progressive and liberal views trying to show those down somebody else's throat.

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The tyranny of the left is as oppressive, or sometimes more so, than the tyranny of the right. Always beware the zealots who are so sure that they "know what is good for you" (right and left). They also usually fancy themselves as smarter than those who don't agree with their way of thinking - a false premise based on the conceit that they are always right.

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Originally Posted by Starter

The tyranny of the left is as oppressive, or sometimes more so, than the tyranny of the right. Always beware the zealots who are so sure that they "know what is good for you" (right and left). They also usually fancy themselves as smarter than those who don't agree with their way of thinking - a false premise based on the conceit that they are always right.

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Exactly. The logic of the "I-am-good-therefore-the-one-disagreeing-with-me-is-bad" kind is downright dangerous. When urban sophisticated liberal folks start using it, they are no different from intolerant fanatics.

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

A good dose of common sense doesn't hurt either :)

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Absolutely, which is not applied when allowing 9 year olds to play with guns