Hayden Paddon

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Originally Posted by Doon

Don't want to sound too pro-Ogier, but I think we are a bit deluded to say this was a straight fight. OK - the last stage was done on equal terms, but lets not fool ourselves into think Ogier wouldn't have gone into that stage with anything less than a 30 second lead if the road conditions were equal for everyone.

They are all miles away from Ogier.......even Paddon.

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and on tarmac , Ogier gets to put mud and rock on the racing line that others have to drive on.

swings and roundabouts.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

captain obvious to the rescue !!!!!!!

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Well NOT that obvious to some.........you said it!

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

Is this the first time Ogier lost a straight battle with another driver ??

The era where Loeb was treating him like a garbage dog is excluded of course.

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Originally Posted by Doon

Well NOT that obvious to some.........you said it!

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What NOT says is true regarding the last stage of the event, 16.32Km of twisty gravel road, conditions equal, no bullshit and Paddon blitzed Ogiers time. Forget the rest of the event, this stage alone was a huge deal, no one has done this to Ogier for a long time, in fact I cannot recall when Loeb ever did it to him?

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Paddon is Hyundai's future and he shouldn't be starting in a car with 20 on the side again in my opinion. Even on tarmac. The manufacturers championship is a non-event this year anyway.

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+1

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Originally Posted by Nornbugger

, in fact I cannot recall when Loeb ever did it to him?

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Monte some times...

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Originally Posted by Nornbugger

What NOT says is true regarding the last stage of the event, 16.32Km of twisty gravel road, conditions equal, no bullshit and Paddon blitzed Ogiers time. Forget the rest of the event, this stage alone was a huge deal, no one has done this to Ogier for a long time, in fact I cannot recall when Loeb ever did it to him?

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dont you think that ogier used his tyres more on penultimate stage, and thats why he was not first on a power stage... its not regular to see ogier being so 'slow' on a PS.

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Originally Posted by AL14

Does anyone have the transcription of the press conference where Paddon and Ogier had the argument?
WHere are journalists where we need them?

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Where they usually are: someplace jerking off and re-writing press releases they were handed into more hyperbole..:snore:

In motorsport, there's no such thing like "equal road conditions". Its something that even a 5 year old kart racer has experienced. The pro and anti arguments of dust, sweeping, mud on tar, tyre wear etc. The only thing that will be fair to Ogier is if he gets to choose his start position everyday.
Then Bertelli would go first.

Someone explain how that would be fair to the drivers and more importantly the championship.

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Originally Posted by smokingjoe

and on tarmac , Ogier gets to put mud and rock on the racing line that others have to drive on.

swings and roundabouts.

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Exactly !!

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Originally Posted by drive

dont you think that ogier used his tyres more on penultimate stage, and thats why he was not first on a power stage... its not regular to see ogier being so 'slow' on a PS.

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one reason is this,that Ogier had worst tyres,due to previous stage pushing hard

another reason could be that because at penaltumate stage Ogier gained 20 sec,thought that Paddon couldnt push more,just rated Paddons speed wrong,for the last stage.

another could be that Ogier had seen Paddons speed through 3 days,and didn t like to risk points for championships,because before some rallies he had lost points attacking at power stage while he was 1st(if i remember right)

imho last has the most possibilities,in conjuction with worn tyres.Dont forget that Ogiers good pace at power stages is due to he can afford to dont push at penaltumate stages, because almost always, he had big differences from 2nd,and his tyres were at better condition.Something that didnt happened at this rally.