Imo the R3T should have such big restrictor that it would have the same power as the other R3 cars (Renault & Honda). Then the sound would be better.
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Imo the R3T should have such big restrictor that it would have the same power as the other R3 cars (Renault & Honda). Then the sound would be better.
That's nonsense because thanks to the torque the engine already is powerful enough. DS3 R3T is the fastest R3 now...
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Hmmm.....
It’s not nonsense because I was not speaking which one is faster but the power. 250 – 260 ps is more than 235 ps.
dont underestimate torque at rally cars.
I’m not underestimating the torque. It’s important especially on low revs but this discussion belongs more to the Rally car tech stuff than BRC.
And that's what is wrong with Your statement. Of course the value is higher but that doesn't mean the engine is better. If You enlarge restrictor You would make R3T very much faster than R3C or R3D and that's fundamentally wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
Do You know how the power curve look like? What is important for You is the area bellow power curve in rpm range which is practically used (for 1st gear it's almost whole rpm range). Naturally the best shape of power curve (for maximizing the area bellow it) is horizontal line (constant power) and that is what restricted turbo engines are close to and what naturally aspirated units can never reach. That's why it is not possible to compare rally engines only by the peak power.
The only things I’ve said is that with bigger restrictor the R3T would have more power and better sound and that I’m not underestimating the effect of torque. I haven’t take a position whether the R3T would be superior compared to R3 cars with bigger restrictor. So which point in my statement is wrong?
I agree with that if the bigger restrictor makes the R3T superior against R3 isn’t fair. Then just continue to listen the dull sound of a R3T car.
Let's make the restrictor bigger! Just for the sound... Everything (gearbox, driveshaft etc) is made for the power the DS3 R3T is delivering now, but that's not important, the sound is more important! :) DS3 R3T's are very spectacular cars, except for their sound (but Evo's aren't better, aren't they?). The only problem of the car is the price-tag and the running cost I'm afraid... In France we can see that almost nobody is continuing with DS3 R3, everyone moved to the 208 R2 Cup, which is cheaper...
How the hell can they (try to) charge so much?????Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I wont be paying!