Will McLaren support Lewis now?

Mac has given a car to Lewis that suits him down to the ground .
They've done a great job for Lewis in that respect .

But , on the other side of the garage , Button has struggled all year long .
When Lewis lost it and tweeted telemetry , it showed he wasn't expecting to have lost to his team-mate .
He knows the car suits him and doesn't suit Jensen .

His comments that had him discounting next year as a write-off seem to point not to the fact Button can't drive around a good car's problems , but rather that it's only a good car for Lewis , himself .

That's crazy talk Bags :laugh:

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It's not just Vettel that can do the finger :laugh:

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Originally Posted by henners88

PS: Trying to get my head around it, are you hinting that Lewis is making a mistake going to Mercedes based on the cars performance this year?

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I think that you may soon curse the day he left McLaren.

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Originally Posted by henners88

I am well aware that McLaren are a team very capable of winning races and they will continue to win races once Lewis has moved on. I'm not expecting Lewis to win the Championship next year and if he isn't in the running the following year I will not be surprised. Rome wasn't built in a day and we all know lewis is taking a gamble with his move. A driver needs to feel comfortable within a team as well as be able to win for the perfect balance and that is evidently lacking at McLaren. For that reason alone I will not be cursing the day he left McLaren.

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I can't see McLaren winning a championship anytime soon. They are up and down more times than a whores knickers. Whether it be reliability, bad strategy (a department they have always been lacking really), an inconsistent car, a dud car, bad pit stops or whatever, there is always something. No use in winning 5 races a year if you can never win a championship.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Mac has given a car to Lewis that suits him down to the ground .
They've done a great job for Lewis in that respect .

But , on the other side of the garage , Button has struggled all year long .
When Lewis lost it and tweeted telemetry , it showed he wasn't expecting to have lost to his team-mate .
He knows the car suits him and doesn't suit Jensen .

His comments that had him discounting next year as a write-off seem to point not to the fact Button can't drive around a good car's problems , but rather that it's only a good car for Lewis , himself .

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Are you serious?
Mabe it's more about the tires. Remember the year with Brawn when he was the clear number 1, he struggle on many gp to heat the tires.
Remember his victories with huge gamble on srategy because he was awful on the intermediate tires.
Button the tire master is just a myth. Lewis maybe struggled on some occasions because he was attacking too much too fight with faster cars but he never struggled as much as Button to be on many occasions the slowest guy on certain tires like the intermediate tires where you need to keep them warn.
Lewis problem was sometimes to overcook them but it's easier to deal with that by pushing less than to don't know how to operate with some kind of tires.

Button is known to not adapt his driving to the car he has.
Lewis is far more adaptable. I've seen a youtube video of quali laps of Lewis on Ahbu dhabi on two different years. And although on many corners, he had the same line, when you see the throttle and break gauge, you see that he doesn't do it the same way, same results but he does it by controling his car while Button is not able to do it, he can only drive in a certain fashion.
Lewis can balance his car with weight transfer, Button not.
Even Button said it that even on same set-up, he will tend to have more understeer than Lewis. Look at the braking and throttle of Lewis to enter the corners in the last sector.

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Originally Posted by truefan72

a bit of the silver mist in my eyes, but this is beyond ridiculous
and that poor quality control in the last 5 races seems rather lopsided

electrical failure
phantom transmission problems
mechanical failures
etc, etc, etc.

I think Hamilton has made the right decision.

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I love the idea that a team would sacrifice Constructors' points and the invaluable PR which goes with a win, just to settle a score with a driver who is leaving for a rival team. I like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next man, but seriously?

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

I can't see McLaren winning a championship anytime soon. They are up and down more times than a whores knickers. Whether it be reliability, bad strategy (a department they have always been lacking really), an inconsistent car, a dud car, bad pit stops or whatever, there is always something. No use in winning 5 races a year if you can never win a championship.

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exactly :up:

funny enough when he was coming in with strong performances earlier in the year ( albeit no race victory, although deserved) I was still encouraged by the consistency. And once the victory came and he took the WDC lead, I said to myself that this is the kind of results that win you WDC's. Consistency and a few wins. Sadly the car/team has failed him too often in the latter half of the year where even finishing in the top 4 regularly has eluded him.
I've mentally left mclaren already and can't wait for this season to end soon enough so we can focus on the new challenge.

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Originally Posted by Dave B

I love the idea that a team would sacrifice Constructors' points and the invaluable PR which goes with a win, just to settle a score with a driver who is leaving for a rival team. I like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next man, but seriously?

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I don't think it is done on-purpose, But I do belief there is a lack of 100% effort coming from that side of the garage.
Which inevitably leads to the results we have seen. A system problem with vehicle would show up in both cars, but it is rather odd that only one would consistently break down, while the other seems to have plenty of life in it

I don't buy into sabotaging theories, never have. Mclaren surely are paying their utmost attention to preparing the car as best as they can for both their drivers for the remaining races. At this point, Lewis is just a driving machine fetching valuable WCC points for them, which translates into more TV money and a chance to beat Ferrari in the WCC standings. More wins and more money also means more resources for R&D for next year's car to have a great showing, which keeps the sponsors happy too. It's a win-win for all. Why would they want to ruin their chances?

Lewis obviously wants to end his Mclaren career on a high, so they've got a motivated, bloody fast driver at their disposal to get maximum points and more wins under their belt for the remainder of the season. Why would they deliberately not pay attention to all details of a car they spend millions setting up for every race? Sounds like a REALLY bad business strategy to me just out of spite for a driver. :D

Besides, it's not like Mclaren are magically having all these mechanical problems now. The team has always had the reputation of making bloody fast, but highly unreliable cars. Just ask Mika or Kimi how many of their WDC chances have been binned because of the legendary Mclaren unreliability. When they got it right speed and reliability wise, their drivers shone. Lewis almost had a dominant WDC win in his debut year.

It's motorsports, high performance machines performing at their bleeding maximum for two hours, failures are bound to happen. Mclaren seem to have the lion's share of these failures, probably because of their development rate or maybe they try to make up for a deficit and push the boundaries of their cars a bit more than other teams. Who knows?