And Dario's move in turn one is unaddressed?? I still think there was avoidable contact there as well. We saw similar pass attempts in turn one later in the race without incident.
Gary
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And Dario's move in turn one is unaddressed?? I still think there was avoidable contact there as well. We saw similar pass attempts in turn one later in the race without incident.
Gary
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Originally Posted by garyshell
Agree!!!
Double agree. Dario took out Josef in my eyes. (And Dario proved throughout the race that he was very passable.)
Great fan footage showing Dario pushing Josef into the wall, intentionally or not. Please note how the 3rd and 4th cars through held a very tight line through the corner. Franchchitti Newgarden Trun 1 TGPLB Lap 1 Hit. - YouTube.
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Originally Posted by champcarray
I don't want to be looking at a post race summary like I'm looking at the penalty sheet of a bench clearing brawl in the NHL playoffs. Barfield went as far as I care for any judge in this sport to go. If he starts making calls on racing incidents such as Franchitti\Newgarden then I'll probably start tuning out. You can't call a foul on a guy being passed on the outside for not being able to hold his line to the inside -- in a corner like that -- at a speed like that. And I'm not making excuses for Franchitti, especially since that incident with Sato last year.
I'd rather cry to the Gods, whine and moan to friends, family and forum members about my heroes being hard done by rather than see any more rulings! And I sure as hell don't want to see the finishing order changed. Dock them points, fine them or grid penalties.
The only call I am absolutely comfortable with Barfield making was on Rahal (and I like Rahal)... but probation? Gimme a break. Too easy... IMO.
Rahal deserved it...
Good broadcast, but I think the Rahal penalty is spot on, even if I too think Marco was heading for a big shunt since he was WAAY late on the brakes....
AS for the kid trying Dario on the outside at lap one, I take the view the booth did...that the kid showed some guts, but that was a really scary idea to try that type of pass on lap one with sort of luke warm rubber. Dario isn't always the cleanest guy out there, but on this one, I don't hold him at fault. The kid rolled the dice, and Dario had to be somewhere and Josef didn't give him any track to work with. An outside pass on that corner on lap one? C' mon people, you dump on Paul Tracy for trying that stuff, and then want to bury Dario for it and give the kid a pass??
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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
I do see your point , but if you take someone out by hitting other car in rear wheel you have lost a corner way before and Dario is very good at that(Will Power Toronto, no penalty). Josef I think will be next great American ace in Indycar and I hope he doesn't stop racing hard and comes to be like Paul Tracy.Great stuff.
There were similar attempts at the same sort of pass in the same spot latter in the race without incident. Lap one, lap thirty five, what difference does it make? Dario struggled all day and was struggling into that first corner. Josef saw the opportunity and pounced. Then Dario went way wide right and took him out. I am a big fan of Dario, but I think this one is clearly on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
Gary
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Originally Posted by garyshell
While I generally agree with you on this one I have to say Barfield made the right call.
At the time he had no clear video evidence of Dario actually hitting JN. You can't make what can be a race altering decision based on an assumption. Good Call.