Sutil will stand trial in a German court later this month

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

What ?
Now he's a "pathetic coward" ?

We know as fact , that Hamilton was sitting right beside Sutil during this event .
Lewis says he saw nothing .

My read on this , since he's been called out , is that Lewis should have , from his close proximity to the event , been able to give some corroboration to Adrian about the amount of aggression shown by Lux prior to the problem .
Reported before the trial , we had heard that Sutil made an aggressive move , meant to toss a drink .

So , we know the pair were sitting down , and that Sutil was the aggressor .
But , exactly how long are Sutil's arms ?
If you think about the scenario , Lux must have been pretty close to have been in the range of the glass that cut him .

"You know I'm an F1 driver , don't you ?"(or something close to that) were Sutil's words just before the incident .
"You know I'm an F1 team owner , don't you ?"(or , again , something close) were Lux's words .

Short moments later , we had Lux in range to be cut on the neck , so there must have been a lunge forwards and down towards Sutil that accompanied the words in response .

Following that scenario , the seemingly most logical read on it , we should be able to conclude that Lewis would have been the only one other than Adrian himself , who could give an account of those final moments before the incident occurred .

Even in a crowded , loud nightclub , he should have been able to hear Lux's words , being that he was seated beside Adrian , and that Lux must have moved in close enough to have been struck in the neck .

But , Lewis says he saw nothing . Did he hear nothing as well ?


From the reactions of Sutil and his dad , he perhaps was the only one who could have testified as to exactly how aggressive Lux really was in the event .
If true , I understand the reactionary words "coward" and "pathetic" .

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The only things we know for sure are;

Sutil caused an injury to Lux.

Hamilton was in the same nightclub.

There is video footage.

Sutil Jnr & Snr are annoyed.

Anything else, without having been there or seen the video is mere speculation/press hype.

I don't think I'll lose any sleep over this 'brownian motion in a petri dish'

It's too bad that Sutil and Hamilton have now fallen out. But if Lewis felt that the only way he could help his "friend" was by lying for him, then maybe that's why he got out of appearing. Maybe if he had appeared and told the truth, that would have made it even worse (and we all know that Lewis can't tell a good lie to save his life). I don't know. But someone, who was a friend of mine, asked me to appear for him in court and I wouldn't do it. Why? Because the truth was, he was as guilty as sin. And I wasn't going to lie about what I knew. I don't know about the court where Sutil appeared, but here, you can easily wind up in jail for perjury. And I'm no longer friends with this individual either... for that and other reasons - but some people get bent out of shape if you're not willing to go down the tubes with them. Screw that!

Too bad for Sutil though. I rather liked him.

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

It's too bad that Sutil and Hamilton have now fallen out. But if Lewis felt that the only way he could help his "friend" was by lying for him, then maybe that's why he got out of appearing. Maybe if he had appeared and told the truth, that would have made it even worse (and we all know that Lewis can't tell a good lie to save his life). I don't know.

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This.

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Originally Posted by F1boat

This.

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This ?

He said he saw nothing .
Isn't it more likely that was the lie , and that appearing would have brought that to the attention of the press ?

Think about it .
Why would Sutil and his father call him a coward if the reasoning behind it was because he wouldn't commit perjury ?

And , having been called "pathetic" , and a "coward" , why would Hamilton not just come out and say it was because he would have been forced to lie to the court , and , therefore , didn't show ?
After all , the friendship is over .

Why not come clean ?

Still widely reported is that they were sitting beside each other , and a "war of words " was in full swing .
Perhaps this was really the issue that Lewis didn't want to face ; being caught in another lie .

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Why? The court has. The court has also seen the witnesses it decided it needed to. It has examined the evidence and delivered a verdict.

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Maybe, just maybe, some people have an opinion of their own, like you sometimes like to profess in the Chit Chat forum.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

This ?

He said he saw nothing .
Isn't it more likely that was the lie , and that appearing would have brought that to the attention of the press ?

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He didn't see Trulli either a few years back, nor did he see Massa on a few occasions last season, why would he see some less important stuff like too people havin' a fight right beside him?
Oh wait, he already threw some people under the bus in the past. :s

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Originally Posted by ioan

He didn't see Trulli either a few years back, nor did he see Massa on a few occasions last season, why would he see some less important stuff like too people havin' a fight right beside him?
Oh wait, he already threw some people under the bus in the past. :s

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Originally Posted by ioan

Maybe, just maybe, some people have an opinion of their own, like you sometimes like to profess in the Chit Chat forum.

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By all means have an opinion, but the facts of the matter have been judged by a court.

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Originally Posted by ioan

He didn't see Trulli either a few years back, nor did he see Massa on a few occasions last season, why would he see some less important stuff like too people havin' a fight right beside him?

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ioan, were you there? Have you seen the CCTV footage? If not, how can you make such a statement?

I've said it before and I'll say it again — many of your remarks on the F1 forum make you look rather foolish, something you are emphatically not.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

This ?

He said he saw nothing .
Isn't it more likely that was the lie , and that appearing would have brought that to the attention of the press ?

Think about it .
Why would Sutil and his father call him a coward if the reasoning behind it was because he wouldn't commit perjury ?

And , having been called "pathetic" , and a "coward" , why would Hamilton not just come out and say it was because he would have been forced to lie to the court , and , therefore , didn't show ?
After all , the friendship is over .

Why not come clean ?

Still widely reported is that they were sitting beside each other , and a "war of words " was in full swing .
Perhaps this was really the issue that Lewis didn't want to face ; being caught in another lie .

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Or maybe because he was advised that he should avoid more controversy. You may note that Sutil is the only man who whines for help from Hamilton, the Renault guy remains silent - his ugly wound is evidence enough for his case. What should have Lewis said to please his haters - "Yeah, the Renault boy behaved badly and that's why my great friend Adrian tried to slice his throat, which is a chivalrous thing to do!". And BTW everybody here knows that I am by no means fan of Hamilton, au contraire, I can't stand his driving style which leaves damaged cars on the whole track, neither I am fan of his "I am the new Ayrton Senna" behavior. But enough is enough. Sutil let himself to be provoked and committed a dangerous act, which could have hurt the Renault guy very seriously. The court obviously took in consideration the fact that he didn't do it on purpose and that he was provoked, and that's why Adrian is not in prison. Lewis has nothing to do with his stupidity.