Kimi! Yeah (Raikkonen confirmed at Renault)

Grosjean is managed by Geniiso so I guess Boullier has better room for maneuver for Kubica's comeback.

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Originally Posted by Robinho

I think Grosjean (and Hulkenberg for that matter) are a level above Petrov, Senna and Piquet in all honesty and have much more potential to go further in F1 IMO

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He looks better off in endurance racing. He has the makings of a top driver.

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Originally Posted by Robinho

I think Grosjean (and Hulkenberg for that matter) are a level above Petrov, Senna and Piquet in all honesty

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Several levels above Piquet in honesty, certainly!

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I'd add Piquet to that list, too.

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Has there ever been a driver who has performed well in the second Renault seat? I suspect that just like the second Stewart/Jaguar seat used to be a poisoned chalice there is something about the Renault team that leads to a failure in getting the second driver to perform. Whether this is due to preferential equipment for the first driver or due to political machinations and a failure to extract the best performance from the second driver I don't know but I can't recall any Renault second driver sounding particularly happy. Imagine how desperate Piquet must have been to go along with the whole Singapore plan for instance.

I wish Grosjean well and am glad that he got it over Senna and Petrov who both showed that their best skills and assets are firmly off-track.

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Originally Posted by Malbec

Has there ever been a driver who has performed well in the second Renault seat?

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In the period of 2002 - mid-2004 both Renault drivers were performing well, with the line-ups of Trulli-Button and Alonso-Trulli.

1 WTF do they let there drivers do stuff in the offseason
Raikkonen unhurt in snowmobile crash - Yahoo! Eurosport
Renault says Kimi Raikkonen did not suffer any serious harm when he crashed in a snowmobile race in Austria on Saturday.

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The Formula 1 returnee was reported to have fallen on an early run in the event and suffered pain from his left wrist, ruling him out of the rest of the weekend.
But the Renault team has issued a message via its Twitter feed underlining that Raikkonen was largely unscathed.

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when dose the lotus name take over ?

Very unprofessional IMO. I think that an F1 driver should focus on F1...

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Originally Posted by jens

In the period of 2002 - mid-2004 both Renault drivers were performing well, with the line-ups of Trulli-Button and Alonso-Trulli.

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I was trying to think back that far, I don't think Button was at Renault then, by 2002 he had switched to BAR. But you're right, Fisi/Trulli was probably the only 'equal' driver pairing the team has ever had.

^^^ That is not cool. But I doubt that would hinder Kimi in any way.

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Originally Posted by Malbec

I was trying to think back that far, I don't think Button was at Renault then, by 2002 he had switched to BAR. But you're right, Fisi/Trulli was probably the only 'equal' driver pairing the team has ever had.

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I think Hekki and Fisi were well matched too.

(Add to that, Hekki is a damn good driver, except for his stint at McLaren, he has been very impressive.)

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Originally Posted by Malbec

I was trying to think back that far, I don't think Button was at Renault then, by 2002 he had switched to BAR. But you're right, Fisi/Trulli was probably the only 'equal' driver pairing the team has ever had.

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Button was racing for Renault in 2002 and joined BAR in 2003. Fisi and Trulli have never been racing together in the same team. :)

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Originally Posted by jens

Button was racing for Renault in 2002 and joined BAR in 2003. Fisi and Trulli have never been racing together in the same team. :)

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I'm clearly getting old, I couldn't even remember Heikki driving for Renault...