Lewis Hamilton of the race

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Originally Posted by Daniel

These are pretty much all one off events. How many little incidents has Hamilton been involved in this year.

I can think of a few things.
Canada, mullered his car against his team mate.
Spa, fell asleep and wondered across into Kobayashi
Monaco. Forced Maldonado off at turn 1.
British GP barged his way through on Massa rather forcefully.

There have been a lot more incidents that I probably haven't remembered.

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Hammy has had 8 incidents this year. As I said above, time for a ban to wake him up. He is a far better driver than this. He is making Irvine & Sato look like angels :p :

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I can think of a few things...

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Each of those could be viewed differently:
Canada - Button closed a gap that was there momentarily
Spa - moved back across to take the racing line having (he thought) completed a pass
Monaco - a 50/50 racing incident
Britain - both drivers were racing for position

Yes Hamilton has had a number of incidents this season. I do think some were as a result of the kind of driver he is (forceful), but I wouldn't want him to stop going for gaps and racing hard. That's what makes him exciting to watch and has already made him very successful.

It's not working for him this year, and we can all speculate on why that may be, but he just seems to be having one of those years. Vettel, on the other hand, is having one of those years when everything goes right. It happens.

It happened to me this morning. Woke up to find cat had been sick on sofa :mad: Showered, dressed ready to go to work and found seagulls had crapped all over the car :mad: That doesn't happen every day, and Lewis Hamilton will not continue to have this kind of season every season.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Each of those could be viewed differently:
Canada - Button closed a gap that was there momentarily
Spa - moved back across to take the racing line having (he thought) completed a pass
Monaco - a 50/50 racing incident
Britain - both drivers were racing for position

Yes Hamilton has had a number of incidents this season. I do think some were as a result of the kind of driver he is (forceful), but I wouldn't want him to stop going for gaps and racing hard. That's what makes him exciting to watch and has already made him very successful.

It's not working for him this year, and we can all speculate on why that may be, but he just seems to be having one of those years. Vettel, on the other hand, is having one of those years when everything goes right. It happens.

It happened to me this morning. Woke up to find cat had been sick on sofa :mad: Showered, dressed ready to go to work and found seagulls had crapped all over the car :mad: That doesn't happen every day, and Lewis Hamilton will not continue to have this kind of season every season.

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Perhaps the gods were paying you back for disagreeing with me about the Lewis Hamilton verbal assault arrest thread :p I've got some poop on the side of my which can only be from an albatross or something :mark: Really need to get the pressure washer out and give the car a good wash.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

These are pretty much all one off events. How many little incidents has Hamilton been involved in this year.

I can think of a few things.
Canada, mullered his car against his team mate.
Spa, fell asleep and wondered across into Kobayashi
Monaco. Forced Maldonado off at turn 1.
British GP barged his way through on Massa rather forcefully.

There have been a lot more incidents that I probably haven't remembered.

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See, depends on the view you have.

Canada, racing incident, no one to blame.
Spa, yes, should have checked his mirrors, but again racing incident. Both him and Kamui made assumptions, both were wrong.
Monaco, Maldonado clearly knew Hamilton was there, he turned early into the corner to block him after Lewis had committed to the overtake. He left Lewis with nowhere to go but into the side of him.
British GP, It was Massa that barged his way through Hamilton. Hamilton defended, slid into the side of him accidentally, even Domenicali said this and Massa ran out of the little talent he has just before crossing the start finish line.

In fairness, you can look at these incidents and come to a few conclusions: That Hamilton is really stupid. He is really unlucky or just accept them as racing incidents. Personally, I feel he has been very unlucky and a little stupid at times.

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Originally Posted by henners88

You could step under it and give yourself a cold shower at the same time. Make sure the pressure is right up though.. ;) :p

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I may have to henners, we're getting our bathroom done this week and I'm sure by the time I get home our lovely mint green bathroom suite will have been ripped out and nothing will be in its place.

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

See, depends on the view you have.

Canada, racing incident, no one to blame.
Spa, yes, should have checked his mirrors, but again racing incident. Both him and Kamui made assumptions, both were wrong.
Monaco, Maldonado clearly knew Hamilton was there, he turned early into the corner to block him after Lewis had committed to the overtake. He left Lewis with nowhere to go but into the side of him.
British GP, It was Massa that barged his way through Hamilton. Hamilton defended, slid into the side of him accidentally, even Domenicali said this and Massa ran out of the little talent he has just before crossing the start finish line.

In fairness, you can look at these incidents and come to a few conclusions: That Hamilton is really stupid. He is really unlucky or just accept them as racing incidents. Personally, I feel he has been very unlucky and a little stupid at times.

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I will accept that people can have different views of the incidents, but at some stage you have to accept that Lewis seems to be getting involved in more of these incidents than other driver. Now of course Vettel wouldn't be getting involved in incidents like this because he doesn't need to overtake anyone most weekends, but if you look at Alonso or Button or Webber, they're all similarly racey and don't really seem to get involved in many accidents at all.

Do you at least accept that Hamilton seems more accident prone than other drivers?

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I will accept that people can have different views of the incidents, but at some stage you have to accept that Lewis seems to be getting involved in more of these incidents than other driver. Now of course Vettel wouldn't be getting involved in incidents like this because he doesn't need to overtake anyone most weekends, but if you look at Alonso or Button or Webber, they're all similarly racey and don't really seem to get involved in many accidents at all.

Do you at least accept that Hamilton seems more accident prone than other drivers?

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I do accept that, yes. But that's only this year. He has never been this accident prone any other year.

Maybe he is second-guessing himself too much. Too many limp-wristed, clumsy and poorly thought out attempts at passing.

As opposed to this:

Hami sneaks by Kimi at Monza 2007 - YouTube

What happened? :\

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Originally Posted by Matthew

Maybe he is second-guessing himself too much. Too many limp-wristed, clumsy and poorly thought out attempts at passing.

As opposed to this:

Hami sneaks by Kimi at Monza 2007 - YouTube

What happened? :\

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Wow. the cars sure were fugly back then.

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

I do accept that, yes. But that's only this year. He has never been this accident prone any other year.

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I would tend to agree. I think perhaps he's had an accident or two more than others per year, but nothing crazy like this year.