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Originally Posted by garyshell
Did I not lay it out earlier?
At some point the sport either embraces what's it's about at it's core or it continues to wallow in relative obscurity
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Originally Posted by garyshell
Did I not lay it out earlier?
At some point the sport either embraces what's it's about at it's core or it continues to wallow in relative obscurity
Who said that they did? Take the case of NASCAR, it has the Daytona 500 as its focal point and no one seems to think a "new track record" is essential there for the entire NASCAR series to survive. And before you trot out their declining attendance, they have a lot of other issues all well documented, but not once has record speeds at Daytona been mentioned as a root cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by SarahFan
This one trick pony of a new track record every year at Indy is the only way to save the series ignores the fact that there are many OTHER races on the schedule each year. The series is every bit as dependent on their success to survive. Without the other races there is no financial model by which the series or the teams for that matter can survive.
Gary
What is it "about"? A new track record every year at ONE out all of the races they run? The Bonneville Salt Flats speed weeks is about a new track record each time a competitor runs, that is their core. The core of Indycar is racing. Speed records are not racing, they are engineering exercises. The new track records are a side show on one day in May each year. Does the average fan, who are the bread & butter not to mention the money source for the series, remember the record holder from one year to the next, or do they remember who won the race. I don't recall the record holder being interviewed after the race, making the rounds of the late night talk shows, or being featured in magazine articles.Quote:
Originally Posted by SarahFan
Gary
How you a miss a point by such a wide margin is beyond me
So Ken, suppose we break all time track records at 3/4 of the tracks, is that good?
Let's be perfectly clear .... The daytona500 is not the series focal point in anywhere near the fashion the I500 is too indycars ... That's a fact
Also fact ... At this point in the sports evolution no one knows the winner or the track record holder ..
And let me be perfectly clear ... I'm not poopooing all the EE you and chuck are laying out about the new car ... I get it ... And as a CURRENT fan I understand and appreciate it
But not a single one of those items the EE laid out is going to attract a new fan
IMO of coarse
Would Indy be one of them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoop-98
Again.... I appreciate your interst in the new car and all that comes alOng with it..... Does your next door neighbor car that the chassis is 100lbs lighter?
Nope, not at Indy, and he doesn't care what they qualify at.
There is no statistical correlation between Indy Pole Speed and popularity.
I know ratings and attendance are down, so how many factors have changed beside your holy grail, I'll help you, hundreds.
We have had cycles of decreasing speeds throughout the history of the Indy 500 with growing popularity at the same time.
The ability for the car to drive fast, on a variety of tracks is and has been a big factor in attracking fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by SarahFan
CART (yes, the good ole days) grew its fan base due to the diversity of tracks we raced on. The IRL tried the oval route-FAIL!, and Champcar tried the road course route-FAIL!
The improved racing (and i think this year for teh most part has been tremendous) will also attract fans. Seeing open wheel cars bang and bump, without flying into the stands or creating yellow after yellow everytime a little piece falls off, will also help teh show.
The new car also has a look, love it or hate it, that is polarizing. I remember back in the day, when Howard Cosell was both the most liked and least liked football announcer! It is good news, and will help.
Hopefully GM will promote the series as well as Honda has done, and they will need to as Firestone is going away (the promotion part).
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Originally Posted by Hoop-98
Umm you do realise why aircraft and race cars have winglets right? It's not for looks.