2011 Rallye de France , looking for info...

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

wake up..

the rally was run in the area for years and only this year they decided to do that with the poles... i doubt they payed that amount (which you just made up) each year for the last 40 years.

Wake up...

or change sport.

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Not made up
simple reason
Amateur driver don't cut like the pro's

that is a nice little pole, Whas it not a pole like that a cople of years ago that came tru the bothem of a wrc hitting a Co???

this is how thay are doing it over here, en the netherlands

http://94.100.114.58/1415850001-1415...76_6__HkW.jpeg :D

or this way
http://94.100.115.142/1181450001-118...75_6_3pca.jpeg :D

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

those poles very dangerous, and stupid...but the french tyre supplier must not look bad for the second time in a row on home soil, or citroen wants to have a safe run and win without any problems like in Germany and Oz. But it is definitely not because of road destruction...if you want to think otherwise there is only one solution.... WAKE UP.

tree huggers are the same everywhere....they have not grasped the meaning of human existence yet and they never going to....they are better off dead in the bottom of the ocean serving as coral riffs.

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Your Michelin conspiracy theory behind those anti-cutting poles is one of the most ridiculous things I saw here for years.

That was a pole up into Gronholms co drivers ass? Lol. Any times from shakedown?

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Originally Posted by wildsir

Amateur driver don't cut like the pro's

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they do...

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

they do...

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Small number of amateurs cut if they don't need. 2WD drivers don't cut at all (it's useless) if they are not forced to do that by 4WD drivers. This is fundamental difference between French national and WRC event. In French national there are let's say 100 2WD cars and only few 4WD ones from which only several drivers used to cut. The rest don't like to do that.

In our championship it is different because we have much larger percentage of 4WD cars than they have in France. And this is also a reason why there isn't a single event without anti-cutting obstacles existing in CZ...

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Your Michelin conspiracy theory behind those anti-cutting poles is one of the most ridiculous things I saw here for years.

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the michelin thing is a bit far fetched i admit it, but sure far less ridiculous than "damage the roads" excuse especially for an event which is run for years and years....

if its not the tyre company that pushed the organisers to do it then its the teams....

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Small number of amateurs cut if they don't need. 2WD drivers don't cut at all (it's useless) if they are not forced to do that by 4WD drivers. This is fundamental difference between French national and WRC event. In French national there are let's say 100 2WD cars and only few 4WD ones from which only several drivers used to cut. The rest don't like to do that.

In our championship it is different because we have much larger percentage of 4WD cars than they have in France. And this is also a reason why there isn't a single event without anti-cutting obstacles existing in CZ...

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this video disagrees with you... i see the same cutting in 2wd and 4wd.

Rallye Alsace Vosges 2005 - YouTube

generally i agree that 2wd cars are less risky....but the differences in cutting are not that big to make such a difference between a wrc event and a national one. maybe in a stage 20 corners out or 200.

now i am bored with this discussion...so i just wait for shakedown results.

The road damage is fact discussed personally thousand times with organizers of many different events.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

The road damage is fact discussed personally thousand times with organizers of many different events.

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mostly on gravel events...