Kubica's replacement... (It's Heidfeld!)

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Stash? Is he cultivating that marijhuana stuff nowadays then??????? :laugh:

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Wait, what? His mustache was actually marijuana growing on his face??? :eek:

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Originally Posted by Dave B

What's Mansell up to these days? :p

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZG_wN9G3uo

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Having considered the predicament the team formerly known as Renault find themselves in, and nice and cuddly though Eric Boullier's stance on allowing Robert to participate in rallying may be, they have shot themselves quite royally in the foot.

The car will no doubt have been designed with Robert in mind, the sponsors - Lotus, Lada, Proton et al were expecting a better year that 2010.

Now, they look confined to midfield at best.

You don't want to curtail your drivers to the nth degree, but seriously, allowing the participation in such a potentially dangerous activity so close to the season start, and especially during crucial limited testing days seems to me a little foolhardy.

What say folks?

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I agree about the Rally participation part. I'm curious; do most drivers have claus' in their contracts, forbidding them from undertaking activities that are considered extremely dangerous?
For instance what if "The Boss" decided he wanted to dive off the cliffs in Acapulpo :p :
(Just kidding I meant Acapulco). If he clocked himself, and was unable to race for a season, do you think he would forfeit that portion of pay from his contract?
I bet if Flavio was his agent he would not!
Just kidding about the Flavio part.......... :s mokin:
Later!

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Originally Posted by Julle69

Here is more speculations:


I don't believe that Kimi will come back to F1 but you never know. There is again possibility for Kimi's management to make big money, so now we will know if Kimi really want to stay in rally as said...

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While I don't see Kimi driving for Renault, there's one szenario I could imagine:

Kimi gets the Red Bull Racing seat alongside Vettel, thus keeping his Red Bull sponsorship.

RBR lend Webber, who they are not entirely happy with anyway, to their engine-supplier Renault.

That would give Renault the best available driver, Webber a number-one-drive in a competitive team, RBR a driver unlikely to complain about his team-mate being given preference (and an excellent marketing tool - vodka Red Bull anyone?) and Kimi a chance to get back to F1 without severing the ties with Red Bull.

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is ;)

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Originally Posted by Mr Alcatraz

I agree about the Rally participation part. I'm curious; do most drivers have claus' in their contracts, forbidding them from undertaking activities that are considered extremely dangerous?
For instance what if "The Boss" decided he wanted to dive off the cliffs in Acapulpo :p :
(Just kidding I meant Acapulco). If he clocked himself, and was unable to race for a season, do you think he would forfeit that portion of pay from his contract?
I bet if Flavio was his agent he would not!
Just kidding about the Flavio part.......... :s mokin:
Later!

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Some certainly do. Point is, if you invest a lot of money in a driver, and then even more money to insure them, it would surely make sense to ensure your premiums are kept down by limiting the exposure to dangerous sports. Of course, you could just as easily get mowed down by a bus when crossing the road...........

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Some certainly do. Point is, if you invest a lot of money in a driver, and then even more money to insure them, it would surely make sense to ensure your premiums are kept down by limiting the exposure to dangerous sports. Of course, you could just as easily get mowed down by a bus when crossing the road...........

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Yes but we know the distinction between performing acts of Daring-do, and being involved in an accident that was in no way of your own making. I'm not addressing the eventuality of the guy being "muerto"
In the case of the bus accident there would be a lawsuit against the second party.

All:
God save your majesty!


Cade:
I thank you, good people—there shall be no money; all shall eat
and drink on my score, and I will apparel them all in one livery,
that they may agree like brothers, and worship me their lord.


Dick:
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.

Cade:
Nay, that I mean to do.


Henry The Sixth, Part 2 Act 4, scene 2, 71–78

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

You don't want to curtail your drivers to the nth degree, but seriously, allowing the participation in such a potentially dangerous activity so close to the season start, and especially during crucial limited testing days seems to me a little foolhardy.

What say folks?

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In what sense is participating in a rally any more dangerous than participating in an F1 test, or going skiing, or any number of other pre-season activities that drivers indulge in?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

In what sense is participating in a rally any more dangerous than participating in an F1 test, or going skiing, or any number of other pre-season activities that drivers indulge in?

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....or riding a mountain bike.

I say bravo to Renault (or perhaps Robert and his management) for insisting he be allowed to compete in other sports. He's not a child. He knew the risks. End of story.

Boullier says the options are Senna, Liuzzi, Heidfeld. If those are the options, then I can't see a reason to choose the other two over Heidfeld. He is the one with the most experience and probably the most speed.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

In what sense is participating in a rally any more dangerous than participating in an F1 test, or going skiing, or any number of other pre-season activities that drivers indulge in?

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Well, to begin with the medical facilities that are provided during tests coupled with the safety track record of modern F1 cars..............

Bear in mind Robert 'lost a lot of blood' and was 'trapped in the car' for some time...............................

Also, did you notice the steep drop to the side of the road on the video posted earlier........

Sadly, Roberts accident, although freak, need not have happened.