Pirelli

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

I think Michelin were prepared to be the sole tyre supplier, but with a condition;

That they could use this opportunity as a research bed for their energy saving tyres, knowledge from which they would apply directly to their road car tyre range......

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I must admit I've probably digested less F1 news the past year as my interest level has begun to wane somewhat with these new rules, so did a quick Google search to refresh my memory.

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/14191.html

Looks like we're both right, it seemed that there were a few factors affecting their return - competition, a common architecture with their sportscar tyres, and what you mentioned above.

All in all, much more honourable intentions than Pirelli's though.

Nothing personal against Pirelli - I cheered for them against Michelin back in the WRC glory days when the likes of McRae and Burns were on them, but they're selling themselves horribly short when if they and other tyre manufacturers went along with Michelin's stance they could force the FIA's hand on this, and benefit their own R&D for their everyday products too.

For you guys slagging Pirelli , how much difference in amount of relativity to road use is there really , whether the tires last either one hundred miles or two hundred miles ?

And , why does nobody from that camp believe that the tires will act rather differently when they run at places with a little more temperature to put the tires through a proper heat cycle ?
It has been pointed out by the company a number of times that they haven't seen much heat in testing . They believe the marble problem will be much less with hot weather as well , as a result as well .

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

I think Michelin were prepared to be the sole tyre supplier, but with a condition;

That they could use this opportunity as a research bed for their energy saving tyres, knowledge from which they would apply directly to their road car tyre range......

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Actually they were advocating larger rims/tyres and thus save costs by sharing technology used in endurance racing.

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Originally Posted by V12

While yes it's true in a way that it's not Pirelli's fault, it's the fault of the rules with the control tyres, at the end of the day Pirelli knew the rules and the "brief" when they signed up, so they knew what they were getting themselves into. In that respect I have no sympathy for them. If you willingly aid and abet a criminal then you are in turn guilty of an offence yourself.

I've far more respect for Michelin who have stuck to their principles and said they'd only come back when there was proper competition again. Sadly I'm not sure if we ever will again.

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I know you're an advocate greater competition and variables but I wonder if you're persuaded by any of Pat Symonds' thoughts?

http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/...h-pat-symonds/

At least the marking should be easier to distinguish than a simple green stripe:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90008

Wet - orange
Intermediate - light blue
Supersoft - red
Soft – yellow
Medium – white
Hard – silver

White and Silver look similar to me. Hope it looks different in action.

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Originally Posted by skc

White and Silver look similar to me. Hope it looks different in action.

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Agreed. Why couldn't they use green?

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Originally Posted by skc

White and Silver look similar to me. Hope it looks different in action.

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But but but.... white and silver won't be used on the same weekend as there's always one compound in between the two that get chosen.

Very smart colour coding by Pirelli. It should be a lot easier to tell which tyres everyone is on than Bridgestone's green stripe.

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Originally Posted by skc

White and Silver look similar to me. Hope it looks different in action.

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Originally Posted by N4D13

Agreed. Why couldn't they use green?

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exactly, green would have made sense for the hards. hopefully they will change it

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Originally Posted by Dave B

But but but.... white and silver won't be used on the same weekend as there's always one compound in between the two that get chosen.

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still does not negate the fact that they would look too similar