Team orders at Ferrari

All Ferrari members being interview at the moment are all treating us like idiots.

"Their were no orders given"
"What decision"
"Felipe struggling on hard tyres"

All B.S

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Originally Posted by Hawkmoon

I'd say so. I don't think any of the teams will make a formal protest as they know the same thing could happen to them. If Red Bull protest this result then they are going to have a problem if they need to do something similar in the last couple of races.

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if there is no investigation, then the rule needs to go......

what a joke

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Originally Posted by Hawkmoon

I'd say so. I don't think any of the teams will make a formal protest as they know the same thing could happen to them. If Red Bull protest this result then they are going to have a problem if they need to do something similar in the last couple of races.

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IMO RBR should protest even if it is just because they can be sure that if hey do something half as bad later this season Ferrari will protest it without thinking twice.

RBR and McLaren should be the ones who make it stick now. I sure would do it.

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

I do have some limited sympathy with the view that it's not a good rule, but once it was decided that this is the rule then the drivers and teams must respect it. Ferrari didn't.

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It's not so much the "rule breaking" that's the problem, but the vast majority of the fans feel cheated. Massa deserved that win and the fans agree. And their whitewashing is a joke, the fans are not stupid.

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Originally Posted by Robinho

3 gears at once my arse, the replay with telemetry clearly showed that he was not on full throttle and shifted at about 14k revs for a couple fo gears and then got back on the gas when Alonso was nealry alongside, there was no mistake and it is so insulting to suggest there was.

They have brought a ****storm on themselves and are cowering trying to deflect the brown stuff.

Massa may have been a little lucky to find himself in the lead but once there he deserved it and Alonso couldn't pass, that should have been race over

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oh yes, that little TV screen stuff.......opps :eek:

Actually drivers always slow down after a hairpin turn......

But in the absence of a real investigation, well, it is now only principle

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Originally Posted by christophulus

It's not so much the "rule breaking" that's the problem, but the vast majority of the fans feel cheated. Massa deserved that win and the fans agree. And their whitewashing is a joke, the fans are not stupid.

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I agree. F1 needs to decide if it's a team sport or a driver sport. If it really is a team sport, like football, then to borrow footballing language it doesn't matter who scores the goals just as long as somebody does.

But all the time there's a drivers' championship, team orders should be banned.

If Alonso was quicker, he should have overtaken Massa. He did try earlier in the race, and failed. The only team order should have been not to take each other out.

The Whiner is insisting in the post-race interviews that he was faster all weekend. So what? Why race at all? Vettel was fastest in qualifying so surely we should just give him the win on Saturday and be done with it?

Glad to see the press are laying into Ferrari over this.

The press conference, Alonso's reply to all the questions from the media (from Ted Kravitz, BBC)

"I was faster than Felipe all weekend and I was 2 thousandths off pole, Felipe was'nt"

And Massa

"It was my decision to let Fernando through"

Any bets that Ferrari have told Felipe what to say?

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Originally Posted by christophulus

The Whiner is insisting in the post-race interviews that he was faster all weekend. So what? Why race at all? Vettel was fastest in qualifying so surely we should just give him the win on Saturday and be done with it?

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Very good point. If you're faster, overtake the guy and win the race on the track - not on the pit wall.

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Ferrari has been summoned to see the stewards following the German GP team orders controversy.

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