Lars Vilks gets the muslim free speech treatment

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Originally Posted by Easy Drifter

It even applied after the war when the horrors of the concentration camps became known.

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After the war there was no need for asylum, except for the Nazis, of whom many emigrated to South America. And some sissies in Finland like Lauri Törni (aka Larry Thorn) who fled to the US because they believed that the Soviet Union might be interested in them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauri_T%C3%B6rni

There were thousands of people who were totally displaced with nothing left, not just Jewish people.
Canada accepted within a few years tens of thousands of refugees and immigrants from all over Europe. Many were our former enemies from Italy and Germany.
There were a couple of young Italian refugee twin brothers who emigrated to the US by the names of Aldo and Mario Andretti, with their family.
But Jewish immigrants were still not generally accepted by the west. Many survivors of the concentration camps did not want to return to their old country where there was nothing left and in many many cases they had been betrayed by their neighbors.
Eki you are so wrong.
Either you really do not know or you are just showing more of your anti semetic feelings.

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Originally Posted by Easy Drifter

Many survivors of the concentration camps did not want to return to their old country where there was nothing left and in many many cases they had been betrayed by their neighbors.
Eki you are so wrong.
Either you really do not know or you are just showing more of your anti semetic feelings.

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This country had to be established this way or the other.

I bet you in 100 years this Israel/Palestine conflict will still be going. Both sides are guilty.


Anyway when discussing topics like some guy getting touchy when someone is depicted with a dogs body, I think it's important not to pidgeonhole an entire culture/religion based on one event.

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

I bet you in 100 years this Israel/Palestine conflict will still be going. Both sides are guilty.


Anyway when discussing topics like some guy getting touchy when someone is depicted with a dogs body, I think it's important not to pidgeonhole an entire culture/religion based on one event.

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or one pedophile who, as the great prophet, has set the example over the years, a tradition that continues to this very day, for the rape of children through these arranged marriages....
So let's see, we got the bomb suicides, the killing of cartoonists (do any of you even know who Van Gogh is) and the child raping.....of course no one ever talks about the horrible abuse many young girls suffer, to say nothing about the chopping off the head when those girls get out of line.

No, the news media only hesitantly talks about the attacks on people for saying jokes, and even then, they are too scared to say much.

So the rape of children goes on, all in the name of this so called religion.

So I paint real broad, and say ban this religion of infidels and run them to they drop. How is that for freedom of religion and speech, practiced Islam style :rotflmao:

Of course one can say, well I know some moslems and they are not like that. Well I have known a few nazis (one was a former ss officer)and some good old Klan boys, and they were all very nice....can not imagine why anyone would ever say such horrble things, one should not paint with too broad a brush.

Yeah, right :rolleyes:

Indeed the current practices of the Islam religion reminds me very much of the nazi tactics in prewar germany, and hell I aint even jewish and don't have any friends who are jews (or at least that I have not become aware of that fact)

Indeed, I don't even care about Isareal, one way or the other, but atleast they ain't being hypocrites and marrying and bedding children of 6 to 10 years of age

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

I bet you in 100 years this Israel/Palestine conflict will still be going. Both sides are guilty.


Anyway when discussing topics like some guy getting touchy when someone is depicted with a dogs body, I think it's important not to pidgeonhole an entire culture/religion based on one event.

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I wouldn't call radical islam some guy getting touchy. While I guess 99.9% of muslims are peaceful folk it still leaves hundreds of thousands who are members of terrorist organizations that target civilians.
IMHO and from personal experience, judging arab and muslim culture through western eyes is wrong. They conduct themselves differently and have a totally different priority list. I am not judging, just saying it's something different than what a westerner who has never lived outside western civilization could understand, again in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Eki

So? There was no Finland until 1917, according to the logic some use about Palestine here. Besides, we're talking about 2010 and the 21st century, not 1917 or 1947 or the 20th century. Jews have been moving to Israel until recently, and it still continues, as far as I know.

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There is no basis on which to understand the present unless you understand the past. The modern return to Israel starts as early as 1492 with the Alhambra Decree which expelled Jews from Spain.

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Originally Posted by Eki

I'd recommend the US then. Like I said, less rockets and rocks launched at them there. Even in Europe there'd be less rockets and rocks.

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Even in Europe? Really? Do you have substantial proof of this? There have been many many anti-Jewish pogroms resulting in mass death.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

or one pedophile who, as the great prophet, has set the example over the years, a tradition that continues to this very day, for the rape of children through these arranged marriages....
So let's see, we got the bomb suicides, the killing of cartoonists (do any of you even know who Van Gogh is) and the child raping.....of course no one ever talks about the horrible abuse many young girls suffer, to say nothing about the chopping off the head when those girls get out of line.

No, the news media only hesitantly talks about the attacks on people for saying jokes, and even then, they are too scared to say much.

So the rape of children goes on, all in the name of this so called religion.

So I paint real broad, and say ban this religion of infidels and run them to they drop. How is that for freedom of religion and speech, practiced Islam style :rotflmao:

Of course one can say, well I know some moslems and they are not like that. Well I have known a few nazis (one was a former ss officer)and some good old Klan boys, and they were all very nice....can not imagine why anyone would ever say such horrble things, one should not paint with too broad a brush.

Yeah, right :rolleyes:

Indeed the current practices of the Islam religion reminds me very much of the nazi tactics in prewar germany, and hell I aint even jewish and don't have any friends who are jews (or at least that I have not become aware of that fact)

Indeed, I don't even care about Isareal, one way or the other, but atleast they ain't being hypocrites and marrying and bedding children of 6 to 10 years of age

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I am not going to deny that the Middle East is a cesspit, but people doing things in the name of religion is much, much different to following what their religion says.

The bible doesn't excuse pedophilia, doesn't stop high ranking priests doing it. The Koran does not excuse female circumcision either. Lets not even go into the amount of stupid **** that the Old Testament says good people should do.

The problem, as always, is morons taking too much notice to something that is a book that says lots of things that can't be verified.

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

I am not going to deny that the Middle East is a cesspit, but people doing things in the name of religion is much, much different to following what their religion says.

The bible doesn't excuse pedophilia, doesn't stop high ranking priests doing it. The Koran does not excuse female circumcision either. Lets not even go into the amount of stupid **** that the Old Testament says good people should do.

The problem, as always, is morons taking too much notice to something that is a book that says lots of things that can't be verified.

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the problem I have with Islam, is if they were actively stomping out this sort of thing, and making life intolerable for those POS, that would be one thing.
But they are not, sort of like all those good germans who stood around and did nothing in the 1930's

So I paint them all with a very broad brush, including the little POS they call the president of Iran and Eki's little buds as well

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Originally Posted by markabilly

the problem I have with Islam, is if they were actively stomping out this sort of thing, and making life intolerable for those POS, that would be one thing.
But they are not, sort of like all those good germans who stood around and did nothing in the 1930's

So I paint them all with a very broad brush, including the little POS they call the president of Iran and Eki's little buds as well

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I see your point. I used to wonder how could Americans vote in power something like Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld and then stand around and do nothing. I almost blamed all Americans for them, but still tried to remind myself that they are not all that bad.