I take it you didn't like the cluster bombs ! But the kuwaiti who had to watch the iraqi dick his wife and daughters really liked it. I thought it was pretty cool also - sure screwed up the hiway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
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I take it you didn't like the cluster bombs ! But the kuwaiti who had to watch the iraqi dick his wife and daughters really liked it. I thought it was pretty cool also - sure screwed up the hiway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
I am sure the US and Brits used the same mercy the Finnish soldiers did with any Russians in 1940.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Again...you hijacked another thread with your silly notions....
Drifter is right, you never let the enemy regroup...not as long as their generals and leaders keep saying the war is still on...
I think it was since the collapse of the Soviet Union. While the Soviet Union was alive and kicking, it was good that the US was it's counterbalance. But now that the Soviet Union is dead and gone, it's bad that the US now roams freely around the world without a counterbalance and resistance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
The difference is that the Finnish soldiers destroyed advancing Soviet divisions, not retreating like the Americans did to Iraqi columns in Kuwait. The vehicles in this picture are facing Finland, not Russia:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Raate_Road
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Raate_road.jpg
"Let them go" is totally different than "let them come".
So?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
The Iraqis were falling back.
In your world you can only attack a facing force?
Ever hear of strategic withdrawal?
Let them go today they can turn around and kill you tomorrow.
Not to mention the Iraqis were carrying vast quantities of Kuwaiti loot.
The only people who criticize the attack against withdrawing Iraqi troops are those who already had a hatred of the U.S......Like you.
Indeed. Yet military/political PR maneuvers will always be an ingredient during times of conflict of any sort, as was discussed in the ‘helicopter’ thread to some degree, in regards to the Freedom of Information Act being conveniently dismissed for that occasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
My reflections on the Gulf War was more about how one technologically-advanced military made such a victory easy when matched up against a less modern element, subsequently leading folks over here – and perhaps other allied nations as well – to be relieved of not having to sustain a major number of casualties. Therefore making it more acceptable for a nation to commit itself to war. Which fortunately didn’t happen until after 9/11.
As far as Highway Hell goes… I agree with the actions of coalition forces (or American air-power if you will) to attack the retreating forces since they were not surrendering, and that some of them were escaping in military vehicles that could be recycled into another future conflict... which was going to happen as long as Saddam was alive, as Mark In Oshawa pointed out earlier.
General Colin Powell did recognize it was getting to be too much of a slaughter and advised then Pres., Bush Sr., that a cease-fire was in order, which shortly took place thereafter. Just be glad that someone like Westmoreland wasn’t in command at the time.
Perhaps ‘empire’ is a bad word more so nowadays, where it is associated with ‘corporations’, with an increasing global population becoming more aware of it through news resources.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Though I believe that British economist Barbara Ward (1914 –1981) played a major role in reshaping our priorities - if not our conscious - as far as national interests/ambitions go:
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/A+patr.....-a0153692034
‘There are times when I feel that, in our Western world, freedom rather resembles the Biblical talent that was put in a napkin and buried in the ground. We have it-but do we use it? On the issue of freedom, the revolutions of our day are all ambiguous. The revolution of equality does not necessarily imply freedom… I believe freedom to have been one of the innate formative ideas of our Western way of life… We need to be far more imaginative in showing that we regard the right of nations to govern themselves as only the first, essential, but preliminary, step in creating the conditions in which nations can truly be free… What above all, can freedom be said to mean when the nations who talk of it most incessantly seem to have so little awareness of its wider moral dimensions?... We reap what we sow and if freedom for us is no more than the right to pursue our own self-interest, personal or national – then we can make no claim to the greatest vision of our society… Without vision we, like other peoples, will perish.’
The Rich Nations And The Poor Nations, pg., 156-159 (1962)
As Eki mentioned earlier, that is interesting, as I have only slightly heard of it as an airbase. Guam barely gets noticed in this country as well, that is, of course, if it weren't the prospective football players that come from there. Other than tourism, the US military is its' source of income.Quote:
Originally Posted by GridGirl
Bikini Island even seems to get more notice, due to its' association with past nuclear detonations.
Unfortunately, like other disadvanted people, Pacific Islanders - in some areas at least - are a low priority.
No, but you can sometimes show mercy. You'd probably say that also shooting an enemy pilot who has escaped his shot down plane with a parachute. He could always come back with a new plane.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
Very unlikely in this case.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
So it was better to destroy the loot altogether than to let the Iraqis have it?Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
Eki as a general in a war (whatever diety you worship) help us all.
You would be court marshalled for failure to do your duty.
Hitler's stopping Guderian's Panzers from destroying the remants of the British Army at Dunkirk likely lost him the war.
However no one could court marshall Hitler!