Discontent at Ferrari?

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Originally Posted by tamburello

So it's ok to accuse Fernando based on no evidence, as confirmed by the FIA investigation, but if somebody suggests that Fernando was treated badly at Mclaren you claim it is unfair to do so because you claim there is no evidence?

A bit hypocritical, that.

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Hmmm, this'll be the old 'true and trustworthy FIA' will it....???

Nothing a bucket load of dominatrix's couldn't get you.......

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

It's gone quiet Henners, any idea why??????

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I took my 7 month baby boy swimming.

'What I've said is the outcome of a hunch I've had and is not based on any concrete evidence,' said Massa

'The FIA World Council announced that there was no indication that Fernando may have been informed of what had happened and I respect this outcome"

Pretty much outlines comprehensively that Massa didn't believe Fernando was involved.

Nice try, but the accusation that you misrepresent facts stands.

It's not like it's the first time either.

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Originally Posted by tamburello

'What I've said is the outcome of a hunch I've had and is not based on any concrete evidence,' said Massa

'The FIA World Council announced that there was no indication that Fernando may have been informed of what had happened and I respect this outcome"

Pretty much outlines comprehensively that Massa didn't believe Fernando was involved.

Nice try, but the accusation that you misrepresent facts stands.

It's not like it's the first time either.

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Massa before damage control by Ferrari set in:

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It was the team and Nelson, but Alonso was part of the problem,' Massa is quoted as saying.
'He knew. We cannot know it, (but) of course he knew. Absolute certainty.

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Originally Posted by tamburello

I took my 7 month baby boy swimming.

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Henners, are you spelling your forum name with a t now?

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Massa before damage control by Ferrari set in:

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Friday - 'just the facts ma'am, just the facts'.

He gets a lot of repressed feelings.

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Originally Posted by henners88

That wasn't the discussion we were having. The issue was with Massa accusing Fernando in the past which he did. I couldn't care less whether Alonso knew about the conspiracy, the point I was making was that Massa felt Fernando was responsible. On 14th Oct 2009 he made that claim and then retracted it on the 15th Oct 2009.

YOU claimed Massa had not mentioned Alonso and provided a link which was dated nearly 2 weeks before the accusation. Just because he retracted his claim, does not mean he doesn't still have that opinion. I would have thought the Ferrari PR dept were not overly keen on Felipe making a wild incriminating statement about their new signing and his soon to be teammate.

I have supported my opinion with factual information and have proved that Felipe had publically blamed Alonso for his assumed part in Crashgate, and you have now tried to shift the arguement onto a different area and highlighted the retraction. Why am I not surprised.

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Bet you he is out with his boy again for a while........

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Originally Posted by henners88

That wasn't the discussion we were having. The issue was with Massa accusing Fernando in the past which he did. I couldn't care less whether Alonso knew about the conspiracy, the point I was making was that Massa felt Fernando was responsible. On 14th Oct 2009 he made that claim and then retracted it on the 15th Oct 2009.

YOU claimed Massa had not mentioned Alonso and provided a link which was dated nearly 2 weeks before the accusation. Just because he retracted his claim, does not mean he doesn't still have that opinion. I would have thought the Ferrari PR dept were not overly keen on Felipe making a wild incriminating statement about their new signing and his soon to be teammate.

I have supported my opinion with factual information and have proved that Felipe had publically blamed Alonso for his assumed part in Crashgate, and you have now tried to shift the arguement onto a different area and highlighted the retraction. Why am I not surprised.

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I know for a fact that last year Ferrari PR put out press releases where they quoted Räikkönen saying things he hadn't actually said so Massa rectracting his earlier opinions etc. is not surprising at all.

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Originally Posted by henners88

That wasn't the discussion we were having. The issue was with Massa accusing Fernando in the past which he did.

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Erm, show me where exactly he states that Fernando was "to blame".

Until you can do that, what you have done is misrepresent the facts.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Bet you he is out with his boy again for a while........

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Something you'll never know about, as tissues can't get pregnant.