Renault get a 2 year suspended ban

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Ok. The bottom line is they acted days before they were due to appear before the WMSC.

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They had only a few weeks since they were announced that they are being investigated. They had to make their own internal investigation before deciding something and that takes time too if it's properly done. As a result they found Flab and Pat guilty and they were fired soon after that.

What exactly were you expecting?
That they have an internal investigation in the blink of an eye like McLaren had and came up with the wrong result and than start a public war how they are innocent, shed a tear here and there and than call it a witch hunt?! :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ioan

Sure. Buy yourself a magnifying glass first, and a mirror might help too! :p

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Will do old chap, although the sun isn't strong enough here today to burn my office down with those items... I will take your advice on board which is, if you twist facts or contradict yourself, simply avoid the posters that point this out to you, and preach about others doing exactly that... :p

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Originally Posted by henners88

Will do old chap, although the sun isn't strong enough here today to burn my office down with those items...

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You realize you should have never mentioned this on a public board?! :p

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Originally Posted by ioan

PS: I'm a bit surprised how many people would have wanted Renault to be thrown out of F1 even though McLaren were excused for a big offense 2 years ago.

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I said then (although I was not a board member at the time) and still think now that Mac should have been banned and I believe the same is true of Renault here. Trying to maintain grid numbers is not a good enough reason to excuse cheating, no matter how many people get thrown under the bus.

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Originally Posted by Sonic

I said then (although I was not a board member at the time) and still think now that Mac should have been banned and I believe the same is true of Renault here. Trying to maintain grid numbers is not a good enough reason to excuse cheating, no matter how many people get thrown under the bus.

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That is a view point I appreciate and I share. :)
However given that McLaren wasn't banned it's only right that Renault stay too.

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Originally Posted by ioan

You realize you should have never mentioned this on a public board?! :p

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You're right, sh!t a brick.. Pinoooooooo!!!!

What a farce. A driver is ordered to deliberately crash his car and the team's only punishment is two years on the naughty step followed by an immediate cessation of chocolate rations. They should have been stripped of the 2008 constructors points at the very least.

I still find it incredible that Alonso's side of the garage knew nothing of this, blindly accepting a ludicrous strategy with blind faith that it'd all turn out alright in the end, but still... :s

At least Flavio won't be involved in the sport any more, that's one positive.

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Originally Posted by ioan

That is a view point I appreciate and I share. :)
However given that McLaren wasn't banned it's only right that Renault stay too.

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This is true but it would have been nice for the FIA to have drawn a line today and said its not just Renault who will be banned if they fix a race again it would apply to all teams for any charge of cheating that can be proved.

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

They should have been stripped of the 2008 constructors points at the very least.

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I don't think that option was open to the WMSC. As far as I'm aware the standings were set in stone, so to speak, in November of last year.

well no $100 mill fine

nothing happening to piquet Jr

no deduction of points or anything

the whole thing is a farce and was soley intended on getting briatore out of the port as mosley is head hunting.

Next on his list. Frank Williams

I am truly disgusted that piquet Jr. walks away from this one scot free, after all iot was he who pulled the trigger on the gun. I hope he never sees the inside of an F1 car ever again.