Kimi's future - No racing in 2010?

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Originally Posted by ioan

But the team was giving equal chances to both as far as I know. Does Kimi need no. 1 status in order to be able to deliver?

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I think he needs to get more involved in the decision making process. Schumacher eluded to this earlier this year.
Massa and Raikkonen have very different driving styles, and perhaps Kimi is not forceful enough when it comes to making team decisions go his way.

I am not sure about this No.1 driver stuff that gets repeated constantly. Both drivers have their own race team and the "team" of Badoer/Fisichella is also led by Smedley like it was the case with Massa.

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Originally Posted by henners88

At last someone on my wave length. I wish everyone thought like you ... :)

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Don't wish for things you don't know very well. ;)

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

Good question. I don't know.

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I don't know it either and I'm a bit surprised that Kimi is needing some ego massaging as it doesn't mesh with the image he's trying to project about himself.

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Originally Posted by ioan

I don't know it either and I'm a bit surprised that Kimi is needing some ego massaging as it doesn't mesh with the image he's trying to project about himself.

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In an interview of over twenty people that know Raikonnen, amongst them Peter Sauber and one of his closest friends Tom Vilander, your comment is totally erroneous or worse.

The press make things up about the Finn when he says nothing or little - which is usual and he knows that.

Secondly, anyone following Raikonnen since the days that Sauber fought for his Superlicense will know that Kimi is not projecting an "image" - he is who he is and there is no agenda or dishonest pretentous image management that is so prevalent in the world today.

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Originally Posted by ioan

I don't know it either and I'm a bit surprised that Kimi is needing some ego massaging as it doesn't mesh with the image he's trying to project about himself.

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I don't think he is projecting anything, he just is that way, but nobody is immune to pressure, nobody.

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

I think he needs to get more involved in the decision making process. Schumacher eluded to this earlier this year.
Massa and Raikkonen have very different driving styles, and perhaps Kimi is not forceful enough when it comes to making team decisions go his way.

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A Ronnie Peterson moment!

Kimi may be thought by some that he should be more involved but he does not want to be and it would complicate things. He is not the sort of driver that huddles with the team and spends hours on a technical issue and we all know that.

But Domenicali has said that they work with Kimi that way - he tells them what he wants and when it is doen he goes out and drives the car and if it is good, excellent if not they try again.

The thng is that Kimi delivers and does not give up. The win in Spa was the result of Raikonnen not Ferrari.

He reminds me of SuperSwede- as close as someone can be today I suppose.

During his Lotus days when Andretti was there the mechanics used to unofficially intervene on the side of Ronnie. He would be quicker than Andretti in practice and Chapman would then tell them to put more fuel into Petersons car to slow him down so that Andretti would be on pole for the grand prix.

Chapman would find out if they did not - which they tried - and there would trouble to say the least and the fuel would go in.

Another great story is when they asked Ronnie what sort of set-up he wanted he would say to just put whetever Andretti had on the car and would drive it. So utterly sublime.

Those were great irreverent years in f1. Drivers could really shine. Great stories from people such as former chief Lotus mechanic Bob Dance.

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

In an interview of over twenty people that know Raikonnen, amongst them Peter Sauber and one of his closest friends Tom Vilander, your comment is totally erroneous or worse.

The press make things up about the Finn when he says nothing or little - which is usual and he knows that.

Secondly, anyone following Raikonnen since the days that Sauber fought for his Superlicense will know that Kimi is not projecting an "image" - he is who he is and there is no agenda or dishonest pretentous image management that is so prevalent in the world today.

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Whatever! :cool:

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Originally Posted by ioan

Whatever! :cool:

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Come on, let the guy state his opinion, let him be, please.

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Originally Posted by jas123f1

Kimi has his contract and want to keep it even 2010 as expected.

But - if Ferrari “unilateral” breaks it and Kimi must leave Ferrari (against his wish) then I would like to see him back in a McLaren again.

I think that Schumacher has still much to say in the Ferrari team and since he like's Felipe a lot, (who helped him when he was active and who he called him his little brother - and nothing wrong with that). Felipe has been at Ferrari a long time now and works very well together the people there and the fact is that Ferrari would like to see Massa as WDC rather than Kimi and are naturally working in that direction (with Schumi helping) which not always be in fully accordance what Kimi want - of course.

That's normally and happen in every team and the team must of course make their choice - but however it's a little disadvantage for Kimi. We can see that after Massa's regrettable accident now when Kimi has the first driver position are his results been very good - and inasmuch as we even know that Ferrari doesn't develop the 2009 year's car any more, we can only think that team and Kimi work today better together than before.

So I think the first choice for Kimi still is Ferrari and then McLaren. I’m quite sure McLaren are interested to get him back.. the question is more what Kimi like’s ..

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Your point makes me wonder whether Ferrari are Schumacher dependent? Is the team unsure of itself and does allo too much input from the German.

Their first inclination was to "run back to daddy" when Massa was injured and when that was impossible they panicked and put Badoer in the car.

Now Badoer is ridiculously blaming "the media" for his unseating. How delusional can one be?

I still insist that it was Raikonnen that won and it flattered the car. The FI is a better chassis [shock!] but the Ferrari was quicker in the KERS-advantage sectors but it was the FI that qualified on pole.

In Valencia Raikonnen and Barrichello were the two quickest drivers at pit in and out.

Given the close race run and that both Kimi and Fisi ran the same strategy and at the last pitstop Kimi just got out ahead while as I recall their stop times were the same, Raikonnen won because he did what Schumacher was a good at doing - being quick into and out of the pits.

So it was not that Ferrari worked any harder for him, just that Kimi set himself up for the win on that first lap out of La Source and his ability to be quicker in strategic areas such as the pit in-out, won him the grand prix.

This ability and abolute self-confidence is what makes him the better driver for Ferrari to retain. Massa does not have that albeit that he is an excellent driver.

Problem is that if Alonso joins in 2010, it will have been via such as serenade and the Spaniard is such a cry baby as we discovered at Mclaren, it could become untenable for Kimi to stay at Ferrari and in his interests to move back to Mclaren alongside Hamilton.

Hamilton is one thing and that is he is like Raikonnen - the identity of his teammate does not faze him - he gets on with the job.