Tony George ousted from IMS

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

How many times did he say, "I don't know"?

:D

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I'm drunk as a skunk if that tells you anything. :D

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Originally Posted by rabf1

Having watched the video of the press conference, my impression is that TG was lying at least to some extent or at least not telling the full and accurate story. Something is going on.

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I've never seen him act any other way. I'm not taking a jab at him nor defending him - that's pretty much what he does.

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Originally Posted by methanolHuffer

I've never seen him act any other way. I'm not taking a jab at him nor defending him - that's pretty much what he does.

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TG is as good at speaking in public as Robin is at getting the real story out.

No doubt, something is going on, but Robin said it was a done deal.

I'm wondering if one of TG's sisters didn't throw a tantrum after not getting what she wanted at the board meeting and told Robin that Tony was ousted. Robin didn't protect himself by getting either a confirmation from another source or a denial from the corporation. He posted and then Bruce Martin folllowed suit.

SpeedTV.com has allowed the story to be edited at least once without noting any changes were made; the original posting time is still attached to the amended story. I guess that way you don't have to retract anything; you just make believe it never occurred. Reminds of "did not!, did too!" arguments of little children.

It's going to be an interesting weekend at the Milwaukee Mile.

When asked if a vote had been taken to have him removed, he says maybe there was some other meeting he was not aware of. Isn't this a rather curious statement to make? Says it twice during the interview.

I wish work wasn't so busy. I'm missing the good stuff!

Assuming that he is ousted as the CEO of IMS, I don't think it'd make much difference to the Speedway or the IRL. At least not in the near term.

If he is told to focus 100% on the IRL and it doesn't make money, then he'll have problems.

I just checked in with well known reporter Gordon Kirby who says Robin Miller's story is correct. He says to check carefully the written statements released by IMS's PR dept. concerning the goings on of the IMS board, and they are carefully preparing for the transition to post TG at IMS. Monitor this deal over the next few weeks and the real story will emerge. It seems that all the money TG was spending to fight CART/Champ Car is going to come back to haunt him, leaving a very harsh verdict from history when this chapter is finally written.

I still believe the story, I suspe ctRM was simply fed incorrect or incomplete information regarding the timing of the change and he just rushed the story in what was probably an overwhelming orgasm of satisfaction, knowing his most hated individual was about to have the keys to the bank yanked from his pockets.

Robin Miller didn't do anything different from what any reporter would do with a pressure cooker story like that, which is to report it as soon as he gets it. And I'm sure he checked with other sources before releasing it. Last thing someone in his position wants to do is be embarrassed. According to my friend, he's right on the money. If I remember correctly, he called Champ Car on a few things at a pre-season spring training run at Laguna Seca which he took a lot of grief for, until it became clear as the season progressed he was right on most of it.

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

IMS doesn't need to do a thing to the track surface. GOODYEAR simply needs to get their heads out of their backside and make a tire that doesn't disintegrate. Remeber, Goodyear's tire problems are far far from exclusive to IMS. Their NASCAR tires and the COT are crap, and unfortunately, my current experience with their road tires isn't much different. I totally regret buying the Goodyears currently on my S4.

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I know Goodyear makes a lot of crappy tires and I know the COT sucks, but even before the COT Goodyear has been having the same problem with the track since it was repaved. The difference is that it the problem would go away once the track rubbered in. With the COT, it won't rubber in. The rubber sheds off the tire as dust (instead of big marbles) and doesn't stick to the track.

First off, I was dying a slow death knowing all this was going on and I was away from my computer. Something like this doesn't happen every day.

Second. It seems Robin's story kind of changed the tone of the IMS statement. There was likely a LOT of truth in it and I suspect one of the sisters or someone connected to them is the source. Is Robin happy about all of this? I think part of him is very happy to exact revenge on Tony. Remember George's treatment of Robin in the aftermath of the split. Robin wasn't even allowed on the property and it is rumoured Tony's influence is one of the reason's Robin lost his job at the Indy Star. You can bet your last buck Robin is enjoying this on some level.

Now, From what I saw of the official statement and how most of the journalistic racing writers such as Gordon Kirby are backing Robin says to me that he had the essence of the story right, and when the board realized how bad they looked, some tap dancing and spin was created. Lets face it, the Hulman's don't want to look like they just kicked him to the curb.

Listen, I have no problem with what Tony did with the Speedway. I think it is one of the most beautiful race plants anywhere and it may eat money, but it can make 30 million in one afternoon too. Where I am concerned is his mother letting him stay with the IRL and they are saying "it has the most potential for growth". Good god woman, this guy drove the product right into the iceberg. He has learned from some of his errors, but when you have his handpicked guy yelling like crazy to stop Helio from climbing the fence, it is clear to me that the regime running the IRL still hasn't learned enough.

This sport is in a fight for its life and we still have it run by the same guy who created most of the issues in the first place.

So now we have Humpy rumours around Indy. He was on NASCAR Sirius 128 outlet this morning (Thursday) and denied like crazy he was anything but a spectator and spent an inordinate amount of time dumping on Bruton Smith. That says to me Humpy is trying to distract us from the fact he IS considering going up to the Hoosier state and fixing some part of this mess.

Robin himself came on to the afternoon show and basically stood by the gist of the story, that Tony will be going, if not today, but at some point this year. He thinks it is all spin and PR that is being put out now. Robin basically stated that not everything is what it seems at IMS and we will see over the summer the results.

I wont bet against him. One thing is for sure, right or wrong, he covers the sport as someone who loves it, but he wont stand there and lie about his feelings for what is going on. NASCAR lost one of those guys when David Poole died but they have others; We only have Robin and occasionally Gordon Kirby. That isnt' enough.....