Mosley wants action to 'save' F1

Both of the cars in our household are turbocharged and one is a petrol but i suspect we're not typical. I think petrol turbo's will start to catch on in the mainstream though due to the movement towards smaller cars and the fact that you can get the same power with very similar and sometimes better economy from a smaller turbo engine than a bigger n/a engine.

I'm late to this discussion.
If you are not familiar with General Motors products (I wouldn't blame you) :p :
The Pontiac Grand Prix (or Grand Am)
Came out with a paddle shifter on the steering wheel around 2003.
Sort of a gimmick considering the car is really a sedan.
But clearly an F1 mimic/inspired

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Aircraft too. The idea that F1 brought us turbo's is funny :p

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I thought aircraft first used superchargers?

Tazio. Wait till you see DDCT boxes become commonplace. Them you'll see that a paddle shift system doesn't need to be just a gimic.

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Originally Posted by ioan

I don't think so.
IMO the use of turbos on Porsche's race car in the 70's had a bigger influence.

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Well, as an F1 fan in the late 70's/early 80's I do remember seeing the rise of the turbo in F1, and then the appearance of turbo road cars. Particularly memorable ones for me were the Saab 900 and Renault 5.

I've always thought that increased regularity with which I used to see a turbo badge on a road car was not entirely unconnected with the use of turbos in F1, and the popularity of F1.

Schmenke there are many aircraft which used turbo's in WW2. Probably less than were using superchargers but still :)

I think the point about Turbo's is that they were used in a variety of guises pre F1 but were really only seen as a high performance race function for cars after their spectacular appearence in F1.

F1 develops some technology that filters down but like most race series, also adopts and enhances technology that then becomes commonplace.

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Tazio. Wait till you see DDCT boxes become commonplace. Them you'll see that a paddle shift system doesn't need to be just a gimic.

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Without a doubt! :up:

Perhaps you have a point. I'm too young to remember the turbo era let alone it's impact upon the image of the turbo so i can't say for sure but do you not think the Quattro coming in and dominating the WRC with it's turbocharged engine and 4wd would have had a greater impact on people given how popular rallying was back then.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

I think the point about Turbo's is that they were used in a variety of guises pre F1 but were really only seen as a high performance race function for cars after their spectacular appearence in F1.

F1 develops some technology that filters down but like most race series, also adopts and enhances technology that then becomes commonplace.

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Don't forget, though, that quite a few well-known turbo cars of that era will have been developed for touring car racing/rallying homologation purposes.