It's time to screw Russia over

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Originally Posted by F1boat

Then Saakashvili, who is a pro-western dictator and not a true democrat was foolish enough to attack the Empire.
And the Empire striked back.
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Is Saakashvili even more stupid than George W Bush, or was he just being honest in an interview for awhile:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405722,00.html

CAVUTO: Mr. President, there are reports that our country and others had warned before you moved on South Ossetia week that the Russians were -- had a huge response planned, in other words, that this move would be a mistake, and that you ignored that advice.

SAAKASHVILI: Absolutely.

CAVUTO: Is that true?

SAAKASHVILI: No, wait a minute. Wait a minute. We did not move on South Ossetia. We responded to Russians moving in. That's exactly what they were saying, that there is a Russian buildup over the border. That's exactly what we were saying as well.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I think that's a bit offensive to the many good people who are involved in politics, including many friends of mine.

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It wasn't meant to be offensive at all. It was a reply to Ioan and was related to the elections in Russia and eastern Europe in general. In our country's elections we have to choose from a very colourful base of selection. It includes different kind of singers ( folkloric, gypsy-style, etc.) former football coaches, corrupted heads of football teams/associations, local corrupted barons, ancient agents of Ceausescu's secret service, sons of former communist leadrers, poets who glorified the communist regime,etc.

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Originally Posted by Ioan

I was disgusted last week by those whom I elected 4 years ago (well I always did my duty as a citizen, even if I was not in Romania). DO you thin k I should like the way they are doing things?!.

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Quod erat demonstrandum!!!!!!Maybe russians were also disgusted by the guys who won elections. What I meant is that even if we want to vote we don't have proper options and the results are always the same. That's why I generally refuse to " do my duty as a citizen ". Sometimes I vote only in the second tour when one of the candidates is really getting on my nerves. That's why I voted for the actual mayor of the city who surprisingly is doing a good job.

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Originally Posted by Ioan

I didn't mention my intellectual level, I just said I could have earned lots of money in Romania too.

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But you mentioned that money is not important and you simply can't live among guys with such low intelectual and social level ...It means that your level is too high. If guys like Plesu, Liiceanu or Patapievici can live here without complaints then you must be above them....

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Originally Posted by Ioan

Not at all, society is the whole of the people who make up the entity that you have social interactions with. That includes, the bus driver, the girl that sells you the bread, the milk and so on, the policeman, the teachers from your child's school and so on..

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Ahaaa.. That's the society you couldn't stand more than a week....I wonder what these guys whose intelectual level shouldn't be so high have done to annoy you ( as if you were obliged to have a conversation with them ) : the bus driver had shut the doors before you could get on, the girl who sells bread refused to serve you until you asked her in hungarian, the milk man broke a bottle of milk on your trousers on purpose, the policeman was too nosey, the teacher was angry that you didn't send him a post card after all the things he did for you, etc.

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Originally Posted by Tomi

Talking about good leaders, who do you think that will be Georgias next president after Saakashvili resigns?

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A guy who'll be obedient to Russia. :laugh:

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Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo

A guy who'll be obedient to Russia. :laugh:

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Yeah, right. There's no stronger beast than cat. Russia will subdue everybody.

Except it won't.

Russia is a regional power, indeed. Technically it can bomb the crap out of its every neighbour and strangle everybody by stopping the supply of oil and gas. But the modern day world is tightly interconnected and Russians know that an open confrontation with the rest of the world will backfire on them. The gov't knows it especially well. Where will they keep their money if not in Switzerland? Where will they educated their kids if not in Oxbridge? Where will they have vacation with underaged nymphettes if not in Courchavel?

So they have their hard power, but its use is limited. And they terribly lack soft power in the shape of technologies, culture etc. Their current model of state is very inattractive and corrupt to the core. One has to be insane to be willingly obedient to such a country.

Or well paid, Rudy.
Or well paid...

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I wasn't twisting your words, but misunderstanding them. There is a big difference. I apologise, though.

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I'm sorry for being to harsh on your post.

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Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo

That's why I generally refuse to " do my duty as a citizen ".

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You see, you gave me the perfect reason why I hate the Romanian society and I don't want to go back. You people continuously cry about everything, still you don't use your right to change your life in better.
It's appalling that people far from the country often travel hundreds or thousands of kilometers in order to use their vote and fulfill their duty as citizens, yet people living in Romania will sh!t on it. :rolleyes:

You lot don't know what democracy means, and that almost 20 years after so many died for it. :\

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Originally Posted by ioan

You lot don't know what democracy means, and that almost 20 years after so many died for it. :\

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well what is Democracy Ioan :?:

and what makes you so sure that the country where you are residing in CAN be called a democracy???

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Originally Posted by harsha

well what is Democracy Ioan :?:

and what makes you so sure that the country where you are residing in CAN be called a democracy???

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Democracy:

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Democracy is a system of government by which political sovereignty is retained by the people and exercised directly by citizens. In modern times it has also been used to refer to a constitutional republic where the people have a voice through their elected representatives.

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The country where I live since I left Romania is France, maybe you want to dispute the fact that France id democratic. :rolleyes:

it seems that you can state what Democracy stands for but you don't have any notion about it's meaning