Donkey of the Race (Canada GP Edition)

-->"knock on", Kimi was slow in the beginning and in the Qualifications could that mean that Kimi had more fuel then you thought he had? And Kimi was the fastest car on track before Sutil stopped.

And even if it was likely that either Kimi, Robert or Lewis would have won the race if the incident never had happened. There is always a risk for mechanical failures, punctures and etc. Victory is not certain until the car passes post race examinations.

if it was someone else, probably was going to receive a race ban.. but...is Hamilton the good boy...

as we saw with the first safety car...they waited 5 minutes before they decided to call it in...They did not want to ruin Hamiltons race...

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Originally Posted by elinagr

if it was someone else, probably was going to receive a race ban.. but...is Hamilton the good boy...

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Kimi didn't get any penalty for rear-ending Sutil in Monaco.

I know that Lewis was in the pit lane, but it was surely a similar situation. Kimi made a mistake coming out of the tunnel, Lewis made a mistake coming up to a traffic light.

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Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

-->"knock on", Kimi was slow in the beginning and in the Qualifications could that mean that Kimi had more fuel then you thought he had? And Kimi was the fastest car on track before Sutil stopped.

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I think Kimi had some graining problems but as he pitted at the same time as Lewis and Kubica, suggests they were similarly filled. We know Lewis took on more fuel so I suggest he may have been able to go longer.

Kimi did set a fastest lap of about 1/10 sec quicker than Lewis a few laps befor the incident but fastest laps are like Bikinies; they reveal a lot but not everything ;)

Pure race pace suggests Lewis had a very competitive package and the longer fuel fill would have put him in a very strong position.

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And even if it was likely that either Kimi, Robert or Lewis would have won the race if the incident never had happened. There is always a risk for mechanical failures, punctures and etc. Victory is not certain until the car passes post race examinations.

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Totally agree. I only claimed that all 3 had a good chance of victory (as opposed to someone struggleing at the back 50%) but that never rules out things like Mechanical breakdown etc.

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Originally Posted by aryan

:rolleyes:

My ignore list keeps growing.

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as is mine

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

WTF? :confused:

I'm nominating Lewis because he screwed up an elementary procedure when the race was his for the taking, not because of ANY other factor.

I'm also nominating Nico for doing the same thing - any comments to make about his ethnic origin or am I allowed to say Rosberg?

Unbelievable.

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

The good old race card. When you have nothing else, always use that.
The moment someone uses that, it says all I need to know about that individual.


I admit I discriminate against a certain group of people at times. Yep, I admit it. I discriminate. I just can`t get over the dislike I have for stupid people. :rotflmao:

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sometimes I wonder about a few of you on this forum or if you actually read the posts or just dissect it and look for stupuid reasons to validate your own biases or insecurities.

I clearly stated in this thread and others that Hamilton was the donkey of the race. I also stated that the 10grid penalty was stiff but not unwarranted.

What I objected to was the visceral natureof the comments towards LH which didn't seem to be the same for Kimi when he ran into the back of sutil. or evwen Rosberg for the exact same mistake. Or for Massa and Fisi last year for running the red light in the same bloody track.

just check your statments and then realize that the animosity towards Hamilton is trully of a different proportion and you got to wonder why.
I said, AMONGST OTHER REASONS that race plays a factor as well. just as envy does, or the fact that he has an ego, or the fact that he's beeing hailed by the press for his achievements to date.

So if you are unwilling or unable to read an entire thread and would rather selectively ingnore other aspects and then choose to attack me instead of engaging in a dialogue, then that's all I need to know. Incidentally that same tactic explains your miopic view of Hamilton as well which isn't the least bit surprising.

cheers
LOL

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Originally Posted by cosmicpanda

Kimi didn't get any penalty for rear-ending Sutil in Monaco.

I know that Lewis was in the pit lane, but it was surely a similar situation. Kimi made a mistake coming out of the tunnel, Lewis made a mistake coming up to a traffic light.

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NO as said a million times already the past 2 days. Kimi lost control of his car while Lewis didn't pay attention to what was going on ahead of him.

Kimis incident wasnt avoidable Lewis' and Nico's was.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

what evidence do you offer to support you claim that:

1. I claimed that Lewis had the race in the bag

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Sorry. Donkey is me. It was Lewis who wrongly said he had the race in the bag not you :)

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Originally Posted by truefan72

as is mine





sometimes I wonder about a few of you on this forum or if you actually read the posts or just dissect it and look for stupuid reasons to validate your own biases or insecurities.

I clearly stated in this thread and others that Hamilton was the donkey of the race. I also stated that the 10grid penalty was stiff but not unwarranted.

What I objected to was the visceral natureof the comments towards LH which didn't seem to be the same for Kimi when he ran into the back of sutil. or evwen Rosberg for the exact same mistake. Or for Massa and Fisi last year for running the red light in the same bloody track.

just check your statments and then realize that the animosity towards Hamilton is trully of a different proportion and you got to wonder why.
I said, AMONGST OTHER REASONS that race plays a factor as well. just as envy does, or the fact that he has an ego, or the fact that he's beeing hailed by the press for his achievements to date.

So if you are unwilling or unable to read an entire thread and would rather selectively ingnore other aspects and then choose to attack me instead of engaging in a dialogue, then that's all I need to know. Incidentally that same tactic explains your miopic view of Hamilton as well which isn't the least bit surprising.

cheers
LOL

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I'm sorry but you accused people of being racist with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. I disagree with you. Not because you're from the US but because I think you're totally wrong. Why is everything about race?

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Originally Posted by truefan72

as is mine

just check your statments and then realize that the animosity towards Hamilton is trully of a different proportion and you got to wonder why.
I said, AMONGST OTHER REASONS that race plays a factor as well. just as envy does, or the fact that he has an ego, or the fact that he's beeing hailed by the press for his achievements to date.

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I don't think it's because he's black but because he's so good.

He gets proportionally more attention because of the fact he's a threat to non McLaren fans and a hugely respected and admired driver for the rest of us.

After all, Nico is hardly challenging the Ferrari's is he so he wont get the same attention as Lewis ;)

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Why is everything about race?

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Well, if there wasn't a Race, we would have nothing to discuss :D