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When I scream is when a director goes to a mundane interview with a backmarker that dropped out after six laps or one of those tech features when there's a fight for the lead on the race track. And I think THAT'S something even the casual viewer would agree on.
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Originally Posted by indycool
Yes, I think we find ourselves singing from the same hymnal again. (Except, I confuse loose and tight but think in terms of oversteer and understeer!)
The point about the red widget is spot on, and precisely why I mentioned spit time differences due to more camber and lower ride height. (Sorry hoop, wasn't trying to pick on YOU! Besides I am not sure if more camber and lower ride height would even affect split times. I call on you when I need to know such tech detail!!!!)
Gary
Casual viewers don't watch races. If you had casual viewers, you would have more than 800k folks watching the races. Folks that watch IRL races "watch" the race, and appreciate descriptions of the cars, rules, strategies, teams, racers, and everything else relevant to the actual competition. On the razor's edge is the balance between interesting and banality.Quote:
Originally Posted by indycool
The exception might be the Indy500. But that is exactly when a little depth might do some good. If these occasions where there truly are casual viewers are not taken advantage of with a little race strategy or rules discussions or technology discussions, then these casual viewers will continue to think of the Indy500 as a long chase around a track.
IMO (and it's only my opinion) I haven't been able to listen to Goodyear. He speaks with a strange intonation that sounds monotone. He MIGHT be saying something interesting, but I can't really hear it. When he's talking, I ain't listening. Maybe Waldo can let TG know about that.
-TU
All this talk about which reporter is great and which is irritating is funny. I'm old enough to remember when races were not shown live. One hour edits one week later. For me, a reporter has to be real f'n bad to take away my enjoyment of watching a race live. In fact, I've never heard a reporter so bad it made me want to stop watching.
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Originally Posted by downtowndeco
For me it is less about which ones are bad enough to detract, as it is about which ones are so much better that they ADD to the enjoyment of watching the race.
Gary
Nope, wrong. Ever been to a race? What percentage are real race fans? What percentage is place fans? What percentage are on lookers? TV is no different and ratings are a “scientific guess”. I don’t dance but have watched Dancing with the Stars. There are very, very few fans but the number of real race fans that follow Open Wheel are about the same today as 1948, 1968 and 1988.Quote:
Originally Posted by TU Homer
What race strategy? When to pit? You think this is tough stuff, it is actually a sandwich made with two pieces of white bread and a couple pieces of turkey, and a piece of Cheddar Cheese. Nothing else, not even cut. No this may be stuff that you think is next to building a nuclear reactor, while everyone else is watching and thinking about their finances, if they can take a vacation this year, or if they will lose their house. This is ENTERTAINMENT. They can just switch one number on their TV and watch an HBO Movie in HD.Quote:
Originally Posted by TU Homer
Look, please get over it. Does Scott Goodyear have a contract for 2008? Yes! Did he sign this contract before you started watching? Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by TU Homer
Remember this is not a merger this is surrender. You may wish for certain things like all the money making oval events replaced with money losing street events, but I hate to break it to you, the CCWS, its cars, some of its teams, many of its races, many of their broadcasters are now history.
This is why if I was calling the shots, I would have done nothing. I would have let the CCWS hang. No help as the fans would spin and twist it, just let them go ahead with their season. I was told that there were people everywhere willing to pick up the CCWS. Now they are in bankruptcy where are those people? They are VAPORWARE.
Look I knew a guy once that claimed he had two dogs. One was running, jumping and very playful. The other was lying in the corner, not breathing, stiff as a board and there was fresh food and water next to him. This is what the CCWS supporters are doing, feeding and watering a dead dog.
Of course he lived in Oklahoma and this could be just pure coincidence.
Has everything to do with CCWS. You lost, you want a man's contract terminated in favor of a person who was paid by the CCWS.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimispeed
I do know this. Watching this stuff, being involved and having cocktails with some of these people makes me know a bit more than you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
IT IS THE KISS FORMULA THAT MAKES NEW FANS!
Did you take a basic class? A basic class gives you enough information to see if you want to continue, if not it gives you a basic knowledge and outlines.
Did you ever take an Advance Class? A lot of homework, lots of reading, more "lab" work, yet not enough to make you an expert.
Ever take an Honors Class? 5 times harder than the advance class. This could get you a job in this. You could teach or work in it.
You want them to teach HONORS when 80% do not have a BASIC knowledge of Open Wheel Racing.
This isn't me, but from those that do this for a living. So instead of coming after me, just think from those that are clueless point of view. The simplier the better.
It is amazing the depths that can be reached when things do not work out the way they wanted.Quote:
Originally Posted by indycool
The announcers of Rick and Jon were nothing special except they were working for the CCWS. My question is....did they get paid?
I just PMed you and copied to Mark. I have been insulted but that is ok. I have been called having something mentally wrong, when I did not insult him I was given 3 points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
I am trying to make points with those that want to twist and turn everything.
It doesn't matter who "won or lost" but you have plenty that want their way. Me I try to use logic, like not firing someone employed. Maybe I am wrong for that. I am trying so hard that maybe I should just leave and tell others that see what is going on to leave too.