How strong is the Ferrari?

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Originally Posted by ioan

You're right he took on new tires on at the end of lap 1, what a huge difference. care to tell us how did you measure the speed at which the white line was disappearing on their tires? Especially that we didn't get to see them each and every lap.

PS: Did you consider getting a job with ITV, you could be their tire degradation speed specialist! :D

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Ioan, it is really quite simple, no smoke or mirrors required surprisingly...

Just compare the onboard shots from Kimi's car with Massa's when they show them on the same lap.

You don't need to see them on every lap, just now and again at similar times to make a reasonable visual judgement.

As for ITV, they did ask, but they were not offereing private healthcare so I declined the offer. :dozey:

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Originally Posted by ioan

Yep, at the end of the SC period he could have still won the race, but now we know it wouldn't have happened anyway.

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Kimi's win was gone the moment he got stucked behind Rubens for 19 laps and Heikki got if front of Kimi after his first pitstop. But like you say all this does not really matter as the engine woud have broke anyway.

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Originally Posted by DonJippo

Kimi's win was gone the moment he got stucked behind Rubens for 19 laps and Heikki got if front of Kimi after his first pitstop. But like you say all this does not really matter as the engine woud have broke anyway.

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He had the luck to be up there with LH and HK when they had 1 pit stop to do each. So it was possible to fight for the win and he was already on the podium.
What happened after that is well known to all of us.
Let's hope all the parts stay together for the next GP.

I don't know.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Let's hope all the parts stay together for the next GP.

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I think Massa's been looking in his chrystal ball again....

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Originally Posted by Massa

"We will put new engines in the car and for sure we can go to the end of two races now," he said. "It wasn't the temperature that affected our engines, it was something else which we need to discover very quickly.

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But he is saying that before any analysis has been made on the units. He has a lot of faith does that boy.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

But he is saying that before any analysis has been made on the units.

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It is said to be something related to valves and they both had the same failure.

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Originally Posted by DonJippo

It is said to be something related to valves and they both had the same failure.

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Thanks for the info. Do you have a source for that info at all, or is the valve thing just a hunch at this time?

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Originally Posted by DonJippo

Yes that is true but the issue is that they can't get their tyres work for qualifying so they won't get to the front row

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I don't know about that. Massa did say that it did not get pole position due to traffic on the track and Kimi had his issues with the e-pump. So, before coming out with so definite statements let's see what happens for a couple of races. How can anyone know what's the situation after just ONE race? Who saw the real Ferrari? NOBODY. So, let us be a little patient and only time will tell the reality of things. You guys know better than that.......

All of the bad things from Melbourne are easily correctable. Pitstop strategy, driver errors and even technical failures can all be fixed.

The worrying question, one that I believe was raised in Melbourne but will be answered in Malaysia, is just how fast is the car compared to the McLaren? I know there were extenuating circumstances but Hamilton had an easy run and set a fastest lap 0.4+ better than Raikkonen. Kovalainen was a shade faster than that. Is there more speed in that McLaren? How much faster can they go if there is a Ferrari chasing them?

dont anyone think that they both just nackered there engines driving in traffic in very high heat and having to charge like hell if they both had started near the front and had had clear runs i think they would of both finished and won but alas they did not....