Here, guys.
Feel free to discuss whatever the role an F-word can play in the WRC/ERC, so we can leave the Rally Sweden thread with positive vibes instead.
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Here, guys.
Feel free to discuss whatever the role an F-word can play in the WRC/ERC, so we can leave the Rally Sweden thread with positive vibes instead.
I'm not american or a little child, so I don't care about people swearing.
Drivers are not required to actually do the stage end interviews. With ridiculous fines like these in the end no one will say anything and we will just get "interviews" like Formaux after his helmet error.
I seem to remember Ogier not talking at stage ends in one rally years ago. Can't remember what was the reason behind it.
I wouldn't mind if everyone went silent in support of Formaux and to stick it to Muhammed...
Ogier and Tanak last season, I don't remember which rally it was, but in protest against the FIA penalties on the first day, they all used the same phrase "All good" in their interviews after the finish.
Apparently the FIA wants to achieve this.
What Fourmaux said wasn't that bad as it wasn't done in a nasty way, or cursing at someone.
To be honest I though he said "we cocked up" until the commentator apologised. :D
Imagine this today :D 1million eur fine and banned from racing probably :D
https://youtu.be/2gS4Uy6sq20?si=11L1Urz2ZdFVTHcu
maybe the wrc drivers should unionize with the F1 drivers and try to get rid of the clowns that now run the FIA.
I agree. I think everybody can agree. However the rule the stewards must follow wasn't installed because of a single instance. It's an FIA-wide ruling. People here support there being need for a rule, but are concentrating too much at applying it at rally stop lines. How should they word that rule without making any discipline-particular statements that the stewards across motorsport can work with in a consistent manner? Or they don't?Quote:
Originally Posted by rupx
The catalyst for this rule was F1 drivers swearing in occasions such as pre-event press conferences. The FIA sees this as affecting their image, and I can't see another sporting series or governing body out there that would not or does not do the same. People are saying it's important the drivers need to develop an image, but neglect that the bodies, corporates and sponsors need to protect theirs too, else their wouldn't be anything to watch.
On the Fourmaux case, he did spend many years at M-Sport. I'm sure the mechanics there used a lot of this 'industrial language' and it may have become natural for him to use it without thinking.
I'm also sure than most foreigners don't appreciate the strength of certain English swear words, not having grown up in the culture and learned the true taboo of them used in the wrong context
Next time I am interviewed after completing a WRC stage I will swear in classical Greek and see if anybody at the FIA catches it.
Silly FIA,
This kind of stuf make's me not a die hard fan any more..
Say something a bit wrong, and you get a big fine.
Do a donut, you're almost a criminal.
The Solberg corner incident in Monte,..
Shooting themselves in the foot!
If drivers go realy out of line, and curse a lot at some point, than ok, i get that they get a penalty. But this is just over the top!
The WRC needs drivers how have something to say, and can entertain the fans.
Hope the other drivers would do something as a protest, be silent for the next rally or so!
Two highlights from the F1 launch about the subject
https://www.youtube.com/live/Mw1r6Dw...lLRNLBT&t=6689
https://www.youtube.com/live/Mw1r6Dw...I9e99Ow&t=5477
racing used to be something for men. something exciting, something dangerous. someone swearing was the least bad thing that could happen.
I don't know what happened? when did the pussy's come in to complain about everything?
I saw the 1-hour Rally Sweden Review programme on TV last night. It was on at 10pm and they even cut out Evans saying 'shit' at his SS17 stage end !
I believe you are correct with what you stated in your earlier post. People who don't speak English as their first language do not perceive the strength of the used swear words. And regarding 'shit' decided to search for the word and Ofcom. Apparently they've commissioned a research 4 years ago on offensive language - https://www.ofcom.org.uk/siteassets/...e.pdf?v=326908Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Page 5 has how people rated the swear words. Looking at the list, some of them left me puzzling. Like how the hell did BBC air Top Gear :D
Tor's posted links reference the young audience at the F1 show. I don't believe that the people following sports has actually got younger. At least I started following motorsports even younger than the kids in the first linked segment. The only difference is how much exposure people have nowadays. From the traditional media to social media. So things get a lot more amplified compared to the past but I don't believe creating a world that's been sanitized is any better than one where every other word is obscenity. In order to keep things sensible, we need gate keepers.
Also how do you monitor non-English swearing while covering live sports?
Has Gryazin ever gone on a swearing rant in Russian?
They did before wokeness took over. Despite their enormous amount of viewers, they also had to go someplace else because the PC got too big on the BBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
In the UK there is something called the Watershed at 9pm, after which swearing is allowed on tv. Before this time it's not allowed to protect children.
Maybe as much live sport is shown in the daytime, the producers and sport authorities have to stop it being heard and apologise if it is.
Watershed is in nearly every country actually. But in the age of catch-up and video and social platforms, it's become a bit useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Yes, I don't remember what rally it was, but after an off some "blyat" word was spoken, probably unintentionally as a natural reaction=)Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
And it wasn't beeped, so was clearly heared in one of the wrc highlights videos.
Yes, that's true. For example, I don't care when some English driver says f...ck or sh...t, but if Kajto started saying "kurwa" (Polish curse) in his stage-end interviews I would be shocked :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Racing, and motorsport, used to be for gentlemen who could string a sentence that was going on public record without "filler".Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Well, yes, he swears - these debriefings with the co-driver after each special stage sometimes contain swear words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Usually these words are not negative or intended to insult someone, they are used purely to relieve an emotionally intense atmosphere. You can hear it from other drivers too, I guess.
Or Finnish drivers saying vi**u... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Everyone swears. There's no question about that. My question was more about if there's ever been a moment in WRC/ERC, where he has had a rant using the very diverse swearing vocabulary of Russian language.Quote:
Originally Posted by RZone
Nothing personal against him or the language.
Yes, and more than once =) Never in an interview, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
You can hear him swearing, in the second episode of More than Machine, at the moment where we see the subtitle “Adrien speaks in French”:
https://youtu.be/vrCgndRUhV4?si=G82l_XOZLF4PvOYz&t=1177
It's not Adrien and it is not French at all =) Made a lot of fun for Russian fans.
It's good that FIA and others don't understand it, otherwise they might have gotten an heart attack :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RZone
Jari-Matti has a view,
https://rallyjournal.com/jari-matti-...ve-to-stop-it/
Or this. Is it forbidden now? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cko4smM0ekU
I thought swearing in just about any language (that I recognize, anyway) was covered with a beep in WRC programming.
When I worked in Dublin it felt as if that word was required to be in every sentence.
He gives a perfect example of when the blood is boilingQuote:
Originally Posted by satnav
https://youtu.be/2ewRN8wWrVs?t=17
Did this WORDA exist before this moment, or did they create it for this?
According to the Instagram page, they just created this: "WoRDA is the alliance of world rally drivers and codrivers, created in 2025 to enable the crews to express their opinions and defend their interests."Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
https://www.instagram.com/worda_official/
That's pretty much what I said...
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
If this ,,fight'' continues then stage end reporters can stay home during rally Kenya.. :D
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/fia-r...ct-guidelines/
So we can expect completely new lineups next year... because we already know Benny is not known for not being revengeful 🤣
It was long time crews started throwing their weight around. WRC is on the rocks, and FIA spends their time policing the broadcasts. What's more disappointing is that MBS, Reid and the rest were considered "rally people" that knew the issues first hand and had solutions...
I must say I am disappointed by lot of people who were drivers/codrivers, but when they got the function, they have completely changed. Of course not everybody, but lot of them...Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
This whole saga about using swear words started from an episode at an F1 press conference and the FIA in their wisdom just tarred everyone the same as they haven't an ounce of common sense.
Here's what Becs has to say about it;
https://x.com/KrunchingGears/status/1893992283483062483