Hope Peugeot 208 comes in rally4. When can we see tests of Rally4 cars?
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Hope Peugeot 208 comes in rally4. When can we see tests of Rally4 cars?
Allready exists.
The new 208 R2/Rally4 was tested during several monthes and it’s now ready for homologation. You can see all about it here: https://www.motorsportforums.com/sho...R2-Cars/page30Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpine-110
Btw, once this thread was open it worth mentioning that PSA is considering making a Corsa Rally4/R2. According to sportmotores.com, quoting an interview on motorport aktuell, the new Peugeot Sport boss said there are plans to sort the R2 Corsa during 2021: http://sportmotores.com/portal/start_smpt?id=56605
The Corsa will come as the winner of the new electrical Corsa cup in Germany will gain a season in a works Corsa Rally4Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Rally4 cars have their dedicated thread here: https://www.motorsportforums.com/sho...R2-Cars/page30
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a61DPiDWVcY
tests have started, i guessmore is on youtube
Is that an update on the current Fiesta R2t? Or just renaming it to Rally4?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Introducing the new Ford Fiesta Rally4
M-Sport Poland are proud to introduce the EcoBoost-powered Ford Fiesta Rally4 with grip, power and speed all at the centre of the car’s development. With improvements all round, the Fiesta Rally4 is the first car to be homologated to the FIA’s Rally4 regulations which are new for 2020.
The latest two-wheel drive offering from M-Sport Poland brings more power from the Ford EcoBoost engine, improved gear ratios, better handling and a new aggressive appearance. The updates make the Fiesta Rally4 the most attractive and competitive package in its category; offering today’s young drivers the best opportunity to chase their dreams and become tomorrow’s rally super stars.
The Fiesta Rally4 is M-Sport’s first car that is part of the FIA’s new Rally Pyramid and represents M-Sport’s commitment to fully align its “Ladder of Opportunity” with the FIA’s Rally Pyramid.
Developed and built at M-Sport Poland’s base in Kraków, Poland, the Fiesta Rally4 is a result of the aggressive development of the already hugely popular and successful Fiesta R2.
The Fiesta R2 delivered impressive performances in both international and national championships throughout 2019, including a dominant display in the Junior ERC3 Championship delivering four victories from five appearances. The impressive results saw huge demand for the Fiesta R2, in just over a year M-Sport Poland built and supplied 110 Fiesta R2 cars around the world.
The award-winning 999cc turbocharged Ford EcoBoost engine has been optimised with increases in power and torque delivering 210 bhp and 315 Nm respectively. The 2020 Ford Fiesta Rally4 sees improved gear ratios and stronger driveshafts to better handle the delivery of the increased power and torque.
The Rally4 category is an extremely competitive category seeing young stars of the future pushing cars to the absolute limit in search of glory through some of the harshest conditions rallying has to offer. Engine reliability and consistency is therefore paramount in such conditions, for engines to perform reliably additional cooling in extreme heat could be the difference between winning and losing. The Fiesta Rally4 cooling system will now benefit from the addition of bonnet vents which will improve cooling while giving the car a more aggressive appearance.
A number of key aspects of the Fiesta Rally4 have been enhanced from its predecessor with particular attention to its handling characteristics, prompting improvements to the suspension and the use of a lighter exhaust. The increase in power and reductions in weight mean that the 2020 EcoBoost-powered Ford Fiesta Rally4 will have the best power to weight ratio in the RC4 class.
The 2020 Ford Fiesta Rally4 and upgrade kits for existing 2019 Fiesta R2 cars will be available to order from 1st of April 2020.
Maciej Woda, Board Member M-Sport Poland, said:
“The new Ford Fiesta Rally4 is a very exciting car that we are looking forward to seeing in what I believe to be the most competitive category in rallying. The EcoBoost-powered Rally4 represents a comprehensive development of the highly successful 2019 Fiesta R2 which proved to be very popular throughout the 2019 season. The Fiesta R2’s popularity and success is in part a contributing factor to the fact M-Sport Poland have been able to turnaround such a wide variety of improvements in a relatively short space of time. This is thanks to the relationship and constant communication we maintained with our customers from the moment they took delivery of their cars. With so many cars distributed and kilometres covered, the engineering team at our base in Kraków was able to quickly identify a development strategy thanks to the constructive feedback received from a huge pool of drivers from a variety of backgrounds.”
M-Sport Managing Director, Malcolm Wilson OBE, said:
“The Ford Fiesta Rally4 will be our first competition car to fall in line with the FIA’s new Rally Pyramid – enhancing our own ‘Ladder of Opportunity’ whilst also underlining our commitment to the sport’s future stars. M-Sport and Ford have always been at the forefront when it comes to supporting all levels of the sport, and we’re constantly developing our product range to provide a cost-effective and competitive route from grass-root to top-level rallying. As the FIA’s new Rally Pyramid becomes more identifiable, we plan to have a car to represent every level – from access to performance and, for those who progress to the very top level, elite.”
Freshly homologated (July 1st), the 208 Rally4 will debut this weekend at Rali de Castelo Branco (first post-lockdown event in Portugal), driven by Pedro Almeida and Pedro Antunes, wich will later enter the 208 Iberica Cup.
Meanwhile, as rumoured for a long time, several sites are now confirming that the Clio RSR Rally4 will soon start testing to be ready for 2021; still no news on the Rally3 version, the possible 3rd variation of the car. Rally5 Clio’s will continue to be run on national Cup series.
Impressive times by 208 Rally4 drivers at Castelo Branco, with Antunes ending as 2wd winner almost 2m ahead of the best 208 R2 (driven by the spectacular Nunes).
Comparative video by CMS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPo8b7-MowM
yes it looks faster at corners,but also at straights.Whats the power-torque /weight ratio between them?
Impressive performance of Dennis Rädström too at Rally Bohemia :cool:
R2: 185hp at 7.800rpm and 190Nm at 6.300rpm, for 1030kgs (but top cars are likely close to 200hp); Rally4: 208hp at 5.450rpm and 290Nm at 3.000rpm, for 1080kgs (max power sounds a bit low but Rally4 restrictor was recently reduced from 33 to 30mm).Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Raström drove the updated Rally4 Fiesta in Rally Bohemia and he won 2WD very easily. There was no other Rally4 competition (the Peugeot was present only on shakedown due to lack of time to prepare it for the rally).
In Rallysprint Pribram there will be three Rally 4s(two 208s one Fiesta) ;)
And of course six 208s and nine Fiestas in Rally Roma Capitale :D
208 RALLY 4 – TECHNICAL INFORMATION
- Engine: three cylinders, turbocharged, 1,199cc
- Maximum power: 208hp at 5,450rpm
- Maximum torque: 290Nm at 3,000rpm
- Gearbox: SADEV, five-speed sequential
- Differential: mechanical limited-slip differential
- Front brakes: vented discs (asphalt: 330mm / gravel: 283mm)
- Rear brakes: 290mm discs
- Three-way adjustable suspension (rebound, low- and high-speed compression)
- Minimum weight: 1,080kg (1,250kg with crew onboard)
PRICES (not including value-added tax)
- Assembled car (asphalt or gravel specification): €66,000
- Gravel or asphalt kit: €8,990
- Set-up kit (asphalt or gravel): €3,490, including set of springs, front and rear antiroll bars, 12 wheels, set of ballast bars)
- Equipment kit: €3,990 (including helmet net, intercom, Tripmaster, co-driver’s footrest, light pod, jack system, mounting and strap for second spare wheel)
- Data acquisition: €270
- Estimated running costs per kilometre (excluding fluids): €11.73
M-Sport Poland are very happy about the first win of their new Ford Fiesta Rally4. Nice words from the Team Director:
https://www.fiaerc.com/pride-not-a-b...fiesta-rally4/
Apparently DG Compétition from Belgium has ordered 20 Peugeot 208 Rally 4(they received their first one this week) :eek:
Liepaja was another great rally for the new Ford Fiesta Rally4. This car finished in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th position in ERC3:
https://rally-base.com/2020/rally-li...33&ssGroupId=1
Without Sesks' retirement it would have even been 1-2-3-4-5. After years of Opel domination and then Peugeot for some time, now Ford Fiesta seems to be the best car in ERC3. Hopefully it will give M-Sport some income in these difficult times.
They’re PSA Sport dealers for the Benelux; lots of costumers and probably a local 208 Cup in 2021. Btw, another 7 cars will be shipped to Perú for the future 208 Perú-Chile Cup. https://www.revistascratch.com/inter...damerica-57644Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
This is a really nice project the Castro brothers are starting in Peru. Because of some local conflicts between the ASN and the Touring Club (this is the local FIA affiliated organisation, instead of the Federation - something like that), the project will begin only in one region (Huancayo) of Peru instead of a national championship. Also, Castro has been saying that he doesn't want to make money with this Cup, he wants to promote the rally in the country and find new young drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
And the Fiesta Rally4 of JWRC that would stay in Chile?
I think the project isn't over yet, but I don't have any other information about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
But I don't think the projects in Chile and Peru would be conflicting, both could organised at the same time without losses for any part.
Impressive first day:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entryin...-2020/2773983/
Saw the Rally4 208’s for the first time on a rally this wkd and they’re really fast; besides a fantastic engine their chassis is also great as they seem glued to the road; only R2’s exciting sound is missing.
Btw, Pedro Antunes, who nearly won ERC3J in Rome, was the winner of the first 208 Iberica cup round, Rali do Alto Tâmega; congrats to him, codriver Pedro Alves and PT Racing team. https://www.facebook.com/peugeotrall...zQ1NjU0OTg5MQ/
Nice!
Rebadged peugeot 208?
It seems soQuote:
Originally Posted by NoFear85
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/10RlmcVSh3M/maxresdefault.jpg
Must be because base car is "same"Quote:
Originally Posted by NoFear85
Fair to say that all body panels, and the interior, are different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Anyway, this is a smart move from PSA Sport once trough a small investment they can now offer a new car, spreading their brands rally market. Hopefully, Rally3 versions will soon follow.
Clio Rally4 homologated soon!
https://www.diariomotor.com/competic...o-rally4-2021/
Yep; it was already known that Rally5 Clio cups winners would get a works Clio Rally4 seat next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Btw, besides the tarmac Cup, Renault will also run a gravel series in France for their Rally5 costumers.
It's hard to imagine, but M-Sport Poland say that their Ford Fiesta Rally 4 has already won as many as 50 rallies in its category:
https://www.facebook.com/MSportPolan...type=3&theater
Are the R2T19 and Rally4 100% the same technically?
almost, Rally4 has air wents on bonnet but you can upgrade 19´to Rally4 with KIT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
The differences are:
different turbo inlet pipe (plus turbo adapter), bit different exhaust (less backpressure), different spark plugs, different ECU mapping, different rear beam (more flexible), different driveshafts (supposed to be stronger), different wheel hubs (to accomodate new driveshafts), different gear ratios (longer 1, 2, 3, shorter 5th), modified bonnet (with air vents).
From 2021 car will have restrictor (30mm), increased minimum weight (to 1080kg) and 17inch rims allowed for tarmac.
Wow, that much. I thought they claimed 50 wins by including the 19 model, but without, do they really have 50 wins yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
How much is the Rally4 upgrade for a youngster that owns a R2t19?