As the new season's approaching, it is time to start a new part of News & rumours thread. (the last opened back in December 2013 so i thought it would make it more comfortable).
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As the new season's approaching, it is time to start a new part of News & rumours thread. (the last opened back in December 2013 so i thought it would make it more comfortable).
News & rumours IV: A New Hope.
Hehe someone should photoshop the movie poster and put Ogier as the Emperor, Meeke as Obi-Wan and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
take notice:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Smart to have them by year. Easier to go back to look!
Kris Meeke expects 2017 WRC title shot on Citroen's return ...
http://beta.autosport.com/news/repor...wrc-title-shot
Cheers to a better year!
Do you think that he should tell in any interview, that he is expecting to fight with M-Sport about podium in manufacturers championship?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Yes ok and i am the pope.I have heard endless times this kind of bulls^%$# also from jari.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
What's wrong with having ambitions and show some positive thinking?Quote:
Originally Posted by nafpaktos
nothing wrong with ambition problems start when ambition turns into fantasy.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Hahaha, good one...Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Haha. You guys have really no mercy sometimes. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
If Kris drives as well as he did in Wales 2015, and the Citroën is on par with the VW, Ogier will feel pressure, and he can have different ways to react to that - so Kris as a title contender in 2017 can actually happen. For sure he will fight for victories.
Citroen Racing built a new engine which they will use for the 2017 WRC C3
Its the WTCC engine isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
At least its a version of it?
Isn't WTCC engine the same as the current WRC one? WTCC has larger restrictor and different software/mapping but the rules are same therefore I though the engines were nearly identical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lundefaret
Some more news about Evans http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-new...ford-fiesta-r5
another co driver change.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
It depends, to me it seems Ogier drives well (or even faster) under pressure. What he has to do to have a chance is unsettle Ogier, beat him directly on some stages and rallies then maybe Ogier will show his weakness. If Ogier keeps winning, especially starting first on the road, his confidence will not be shaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lundefaret
Loeb wanted to make a couple of rallies in 2016 and develop the 2017 car, but Citroen closed the door:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122385
It seems like this time Meeke wants to develop the car according to himself and maybe the reason he doesn't want any Loeb involvement?
shame, would have been nice to see the master in action...Quote:
Originally Posted by smsgrafica
It makes some kind of sense for Citroen though.
Back in '13 and '14 they weren't sure they would continue in WRC so they needed a driver who they knew would perform well, so they tried to get Loeb for some rallies.
Now, Loeb isn't going to be their future star in their full-time WRC commitments so I understand their decision to get other drivers get as much experience as possible.
To be honest, I'd prefer if he stayed out of WRC. Comebacks are rarely good.
I heard rumour (and I am nearly sure) the DS3 WRC was more powerful and with better suspensions than Fiesta WRC but needs only one style of driving- the Loeb style. On the other hand Fiesta WRC is good for variety of customizing of setup. That´s why Loeb in development of C3 WRC would be counterproductive.Quote:
Originally Posted by omer yetis
As Loeb said in interview, he will not have anything to do with the new C3 WRC... He wasn't approached and dropped before the development idea.... Oh well.
http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blo...edium=facebook Al-Rahji with a Fiesta WRC from MY Racing in Sweden, Portugal, Sardinia, Poland, Finland and Wales.
This is not correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by liposh
With Reiger, M-Sport has been in the forefront of suspension development in the WRC, and still is - tough surpassed by the enormous budget and engineering capabilities of VW.
The suspension in the current DS3 WRC is seen up on as being a little old fashioned compared to the competitors. But the car is still a very effective tool You can win rallies with (as proven by Loebs speed in Monte, and by the speed of the inexperienced Meeke).
Also in the engine departement there is room for improvement, which will come with the 2017 car and the "WTCC-engine."
The DS3 WRC is built around the Loeb-style, or Nose End First or what ever You want to call it, as modern rally cars should be. And by that its faster in the right hands than a car not built for this type of driving (Ford is the car that is furthest from the DS3).
Loeb would be a great asset in developing the DS3 WRC, but I think Citroën wants to prove that they can have a life whit out Loeb, and that they can manage by them self.
They got a huge confidence boost by the WTCC, and the way they dominated the whole series, and off course have high hopes for what they can do in rallying. But they have done to big mistakes in the fight to be future world champions, and thats to close the door on both Loeb and Ogier.
In hindsight Ogier should have taken Loebs place when they had the chance. But everything is easier in hindsight.
To realise how similar the WRC cars really are, and how important the driver is, if we take away Ogier from the 2015 championship, this would have been the winners:
Monte: Latvala, VW
Sweden: Neuville, Hyundai
Mexico: Østberg, Citroën
Argentina: Meeke, Citroën
Portugal: Latvala, VW
Sardina: Paddon, Hyundai
Poland: Mikkelsen, VW
Finland: Latvala, VW
Germany: Latvala, VW
Australia: Latvala, VW
Corsica: Latvala, VW
Catalunya: Mikkelsen, VW
Wales: Meeke, Citroën
This both shows that with out Ogier, there would have been better chances for the other drivers and teams to win, and also how good a season Latvala really has had (but doesn't help when You are competing against a master).
Talking of Mon. Loeb... he's now won his first two stages on the Dakar 2016... :cool:
i realised, it seems there is nothing this guy can't drive. he's just a great competitor across a wide range of motorsports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
dakar is such a long and brutal race that anything can happen, but he's done quite well on his first outing against more experienced drivers.
imo, wrc could do with a few drivers of this calibre coming up in the ranks.... and maybe sooner rather than later
and i believe he would have been a real asset to citroen in developing the 2017 wrc car....there is no doubt in my mind that a guy with his driving and developmental knowledge is an asset to the planned C3 wrc programme. Even if they dont want him as a driver (in which he doesn't want to be a full time driver anyways) they should have considered a "consultancy" contract within the PSA group to allow his input......i do believe Kris is a valuable asset too, but loeb would have a lot to bring to the C3
as i see it, these past great drivers are sought after by these manufacturers for their input---vw/marcus/carlos,,, toyota/tommi
Ok Pug... now that you have Loeb under contract and he will win the Dakar for you, why not take him and that budget and come back to WRC? ... that'd be so awesome. A proper brand and driver battle in the WRC. Although I doubt they could put anything together before -18. Maybe Loeb can give the old 208 T16 a go like Ogier did when he joined KDF-wagen.
Sorry for silly daydreaming in an otherwise serious thread.
Wish there was better coverage of the Dakar... would be great to be able to properly watch Loeb smashing the experienced opposition...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CX_DO4VUMAAaUHb.jpg:large
All I've seen so far are some cars getting stuck in the mud and Sainz going thru a watersplash and losing his bonnet .. :rolleyes:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXyfSHLWwAEHm7S.jpg:large
Can't speak for other countries but Dakar has pretty good coverage in CZ, a lot better than WRC. It's every day in main news both on TV and internet and the state TV has a daily review available also as online stream.
Seem to be growing Twitter rumours of Loeb entering WorldRX in a Peugeot ...
Argentinian public TV has a YouTube page where they upload daily highlights of every category. Obviously in Spanish.
Edit: in the Netherlands it's quite strange but there's a lot of coverage. All privateer/gentlemen drivers pay money to the TV station to show them though, not very much attention to the overall classification. WRC? Absolutely nothing.
All I can watch in the UK is Eurosport and they have more interviews than action... and only 1/4 of the action is of the Cars (rest is the Trucks, Quads & Bikes). :(