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DRS zones on Straight 1 and 2 with two separate detection points. Comeback overtakes?
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#f1 Rather unsettling possibility of a typhoon on Sunday/Monday in area of Korea where track is, according to BBC weather colleagues :eek:
7:18 AM - 30 Sep 2013
FORZA FERRARI!!!
We'll be lucky to repeat the results of the last three races, but a Typhoon sweeping Vettel out to sea might, just, give us an outside chance.
Although Red Bull have probably got a Typhoon-Diffuser.
Yer a typhoon will just add to their downforce levels.
We might see a DRS overtake or 630 then. :dozey:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Alca-Tazizzle
DRS overtake? Not on Seb, he will as usuaal build a three second gap on the first lap.
My only expectation of this race is that the winner will be Vettel. Hopefully we will get some gutsy drives a bit further back, but we need it at Korea as it is possibly the most soulless place on the calendar IMO. Vettel will win dominantly with Alonso and Hamilton filling up the rest of the podium. Just my prediction. :)
This will be a fairly close contest between the Mercs and Red Bull IMO :) Let's see if someone can hussle Seb this time.
....and then cause a crash while warming up his brakes in the rain bedhind the Safety car (in a very retarded manner) :dork: :stareup: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
[quote=Mr Alca-Tazizzle]....and then cause a crash while warming up his brakes in the rain bedhind the Safety car (in a very retarded manner) :dork: :stareup: ;)[/quote:2fjg1j28]Quote:
Originally Posted by "Mia 01":2fjg1j28
Ha ha ha. I´ve given up on Seb for this year. What I hope for, that Lotus longer chassie will be good on this track.
Cant argue with Korea being soulless.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
I suspect too that Seb will be way ahead.
But Korea has got Seoul.
I'll get my coat.
Certainly, the track itself is somewhat lacking in Natural Born Charisma. Other than the first section with long straights, I struggle to remember the layout.
But, at my age, there are a lot of things I struggle to remember.
Like wearing trousers and underpants on public transport.
At least that was what I told the Judge.
I actually like the track the way it flows. Its one on my favourites on the F1 games as it challenges the driver, but the scenery and apparent atmosphere as described by visitors suggests its all a bit of a nothing place for a race. It doesn't seem to attract the type of passion you see at races in Germany, Britain, Italy or even Japan. I think location has a lot to do with it too. Fuji didn't attract the same type of atmosphere Suzuka does for example as its way out in the sticks. Istanbul Park was a lovely circuit, but again had a bad atmosphere. I know drivers don't need that necessarily when they at strapped into their cars at 190mph, but its all part of the experience. There's nothing worse than racing past empty grandstands, and some of these tracks, including China are very guilty of this. Still it pays for the sport and we have to sacrifice some of the magic in order to keep things afloat. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by steveaki13
The Yeongham circuit isn't too bad once I tried it out on a computer game some time ago, but from an outsider/spectator point of view it seems different and not so interesting.
Soul or not, but the main issue is imo the excitement of racing in F1. Belgian and Italian Grands Prix took place in traditional places, but still not much was going on in the race. I'd rather watch an exciting race in a "soulless" place, especially as I am not a spectator in the stands, but want to see on-track action via TV. Unfortunately chances are not too big Korean Grand Prix is going to be particularly exciting in dry conditions...
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Parabolica
Good that we have got sense of humour here even if not much is going on on the track!
I hope we have an exciting race, I just have my doubts unless as you say it is raining, or we have a surprise at the front. Vettel has been the best driver at this circuit since its appearance on the calendar and really should be a triple winner of it. It was just sheer bad luck he retired in 2010 whilst doing his usual dominance from the front. Based on current form, I think it is highly unlikely we'll see anybody but Vettel on the top step of the podium this year in Korea. We have had some exciting racing here in the past however. Hamilton and Alonso have both been excellent here and lets hope they are fighting for second on Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
Great. Based on the comments above, the lame duck season has arrived. Any recommendations regarding what to watch until the 2014 season starts?
It might be worth judging the season on how you see it rather than basing it on comments here. I, like most will be watching the season until it ends. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by zako85
Absolutely Hennie', sorry someone that is supposedly new ;) questioned your appreciation of F1 on another thread but I enjoy most of what you post about F1, however you can become in sufferable when you go on about The Boss. ;) :p: :angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
One interesting issue to settle is whether anyone other than Vettel still has a chance to win a GP in 2013. I can see this happen only if RedBull makes a mistake in qualifying or the Renault engine fails.
I think if Mark manages to actually run second toward the end of a race, he'll win one. I think Vettel is the sort of guy, who would give back the seven points from Malaysia. He didn't know then if 7 points could make the difference at the end (as has happened in two of his three titles). Now that he's safely ahead, I think he would let Mark pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by zako85
RB's very short gear ratio could also become a problem on some tracks like Austin, Suzuka and Interlagos.
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http://image.vyperlook.com/wp-conten...d-facepalm.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Really compelling argument, Koz. I'm impressed :stareup:
That facepalm might have been referring to that scenario you paint as a gift box , with nothing inside it , not unlike the red shoe pushing Rubinho onto the top step .
I'm not so sure if Mark wouldn't fancy a final win, even if he was gifted it. After all what's the difference of winning because your team mate gets told not to overtake and winning because your team mate waves you by? At least in the latter case it would be the team mates own will instead of being ordered by the team. And I think it would be a fitting gesture. Both seem to mellow a bit now that they know they won't have to see each other's faces again next year. Mark has defended VET twice against the booing and the TC rumours and I'm pretty sure Vettel would give the 'stolen' win back if given the chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
If Webber was sticking around next year, I think Vettel would consider gifting a win at this late stage just incase he needed a favour back in the future. But as it stands with Mark leaving next year, I don't think it will happen.
I didn't watch it, but my son told me that Mark was on Topgear the other day. My son told me he got the impression that the two of them (Vettel & webber) still don't really get along. Oh - Mark also said he never listens to team orders (I told my son he might have to take that with a grain of salt). If true, he shouldn't expect Vettel to follow team orders either, so neither of them should be feeling that a 'gift' should be forthcoming.
He's said the 'I don't follow team orders' bit several times, for instance in the post-race press conference after ignoring the order not to attack VET at Silverstone '11, which made Mark's 'being upset' after Malaysia this year more than just a little hypocritical. The TopGear appearance was earlier this year, so your son probably saw a re-run.
They'll probably never get along, but at least there seem a little less hostility than at the start of the season. I'd still think it would be the right thing to do to give him a final win if the chance presents ifself, but in the end it's VET's decision to make and now that he doesn't need the points anymore I could see him do it. After all, nobody could have expected that he would be 60 points clear at this time of the season as Lotus and Ferrari were much closer to RB in the early races.
Classic Kimi:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151693545902536Quote:
"I hit the wall" :dozey:
Need a Face book account, Kimi Man!! :dork: :stareup:
Well, he would certainly never hit the character limit for his posts :laugh:
But those team radios are real classics. Everyone else would have started how the backend got lose, yadda yadda. Kimi just tells it like it is :D
Yep!!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Could be in for seversl spins from assorted drivers if the rain shows up Sunday....dawg :dog: ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTH5VY00I8w
I agree, Webber is a hypocrite cry baby.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
But Vettel comes off as quite a ruthless fellow. I don't see him as having much empathy. With his obsession for records, I can't see him giving up anything. Considering the WCC is also in the bag, the best that Webber can expect is "Vettel, your gearbox is broken, slow down, let Mark pass."
Which he would probably do, and then go on to do a fastest lap on the very next lap.
Oh, wait that already happened...
#like :dork:Quote:
Originally Posted by Koz
I don't think he's really that ruthless. The Malaysia team order was a monumentally stupid idea by the team. To ask a 3-times WDC to gift away 7 points, when two of his three titles were won by less than that and all that in the second race of the season - seriously that's a window-licking idiotic idea. On top of that, the team didn't punish Mark after he disobeyed team orders twice (Silverstone '11, Interlagos '12) why in the name of all that's holy did they expect Vettel to obey team orders. The whole thing was more down to the abysmal leadership skills of Horner, rather than ruthlessness of Vettel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koz
What he does have to take the blame for though is the cringeworthy handling of the aftermath with the half-arsed apology after the race and one week later saying Mark didn't deserve to win. He should have said so from the start, because that was the right way to handle it.
Back to the Korea race though. Raikkönen looked sublime (apart from "I hit the wall"). He could be a dark horse for the race. Else, I think Lewis is flattering the Merc's pace. I think he might win pole, but in the race they'll probably go backwards again.
Go quali!! I have Sky streaming on line (along with f1.com timing) and NBCSNHD on the tele, and both broadcasts bro suck. I hope Ferrari can get row three maybe even grid position 4 because the Boss seemed to struggle with balance on ss runs in p3 but matybe him and ice just didn't get clean laps on the softs! Either way I also think Mec. goes backward in race trim! :dork: :wave:
Evening gurlz :p:
The Ferrari looks like a handful! :uhoh:
Don't worry. Felipe has been unleashed.
Ok, worry.
I think Felipe is very fast, always have. Right now Zo is just so much more consistantly fast. :smurf:
Felipe, Ice dawg :dog: lucky in q2
Poor Mclaren. "How are the mighty fallen"