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Pirelli
Mercedes
German channel RTL for putting 3000 minutes of commercials during crucial parts of the race. Oh joy.
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Mercedes
Pirelli
Mercedes
German channel RTL for putting 3000 minutes of commercials during crucial parts of the race. Oh joy.
captain for watching RTL ads :p
Pirelli. Biggest disgrace to F1 ever.
I like Pirelli but even they will get my vote here. Its obvious that they need a 'super hard' compound for circuits like Barcelona which are extreme on the graining.
Mercedes. Pirelli. Cater ham and Hulk.
Donkey's of the Race
Pirelli Tyres - Wow they made that race a bit of a farce (although the company are only doing what is asked)
Mecedes - The difference in pace between Quali and the Race is crazy.
Caterham - For not putting a wheel on.
Sauber & Hulkenberg - Both for running into Vergne out of the pits.
Lauda just lauching into a furious rant about Pirelli on live TV - go Niki, **** 'em!!! **** Pirelli!
Forgot to add Hulkenberg. What the hell?
Well, Pirelli hasn't got the hardest tyre just right. I find it rather difficult to single any driver or team out for donkey of the race. However, I'm rather tempted to name Hamilton as one possible choice - even though the Mercedes has massive degradation, Rosberg managed to end the race in sixth place, whereas Lewis was in twelfth. Perhaps he had made a wrong setup choice? Even the difference in their driving styles shouldn't be enough to explain such a huge gap between them.
The hulk pitstop crash you can't blame too much on him. The replays slow it down so much... but in real time he had hardly any time to react.
Amazing for me but I can't nominate a particular donkey this time.
Did I mention that Pirelli needs to be gone from F1?
not in the last 30 seconds :p
Too many donkeys to list really. Mercedes need to pull their fingers out and start delivering a consistent car. Single lap speed on heavy fuel is simply show boating with not real outcome. The FIA also need to consider how the tyre regulations are impacting on the sport. Poor Pirelli are getting the blame by the less knowledgable and I don't think that's fair. If we reverted back to the tyres used in 2012 for the remainder of the season it would be a start.
Di Resta probably doesn't deserve an actual donkey award, but really should have seized his opportunity in the closing laps. A very disappointing race overall for me.
No, I think that's the first time you've mentioned it. :rolleyes:
Ferrari and Lotus can make the tyres work. It's up to Red Bull and Mercedes to do the same.
Having said that I think Pirelli need to think about degradation and aim for 2-3 stop races rather than 3-4. Still, what we have now is better than the way it was with the Bridgestones that could easily do two race distances.
Hamilton was rather underwhelming in this race.
We get it... can you stop now? Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep flappin' your jaw. Lol (Happy to not see Vettel on the podium).Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Donkey=Hulk's Lollipop guy
The Boss :(
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Originally Posted by kfzmeister
You weren't that flamboyant 3 weeks ago when vettel tire-conserved it away at the front - how come? If that's the sort of racing you enjoy. please help yourself to more 2013 races. For me that hasn't got anything to do with F1 anymore :s
If you hate it so much you could always do an Ioan :p :andrea: :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
I'm still clinging to the hope that Monaco might be a race, but if that is such a farce again, F1 is dead for me. Bahrain was bad enough, pleanty of action, but whoever fought was punished with dying tires. Vettel tire-conserved away at the front, much like fernando today. I thought such things were a thing of the past since the dreary Schumacher years 2000-2004. If i want to see tire conservatism, I'll watch lentil eating eco-lesbians dawdling about Berlin in their G-Wizzes. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote
Monaco has always been a bit of a farce anyway though :p
When Alonso's DRS failed, you didn't hear me whining about DRS and how artificial it was ALL.DAY.LONG.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
It looked like he conserved it away at the front, yet we all know that really wasn't the true picture.
Now, i've followed arguments or yours on here and kindly disengage now. One cannot argue with a skeptic. :D
Doesn't change the fact that vettel lamely cruised to a victory at Bahrain. Whoever gets to the lead fast these days can tire-conserve it away. That isn't racing - that's travesty.Quote:
Originally Posted by kfzmeister
Mercedes....especially Lewis. And McLaren for giving Sergio a clear warning when he closed quickly on Jenson. Diresta for not taking that position.
A new donkey is the FIA for calling Alonso to the stewards for accepting a flag on the warm down lap. What spirit, doubt it'll carry a penalty thank goodness.
Bit harsh I would say. He started 10th, finished 7th, solid job overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
Yes pretty daft. Maybe they suspected the car was underweight by the weight of a flag?Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
I don't understand what you mean by this. For me, a tyre should do what its designed to do for as long as possible - if for no lesser reason than safety.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
Why do tyres need personalities? How have tyres assumed any role in the race results of an engineering formula?
We are led to believe that the teams are panhandling for engine money so any savings on rubber should be welcomed. Less is more so they say.
The current tyre provider is doing what an F1 bureaucrat has asked for not what a tyre manufacturer does.
"Look at me, I'm Mr. P - I can design a tyre that falls off a cliff right when I say it will. Watch while my companies reputation goes off that exact same cliff."
If the current regime of tyre design by committee continues we'll be receiving square wheels before we know it. :)
He's just earned a penalty point. 11 to go. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
The FIA and Pirelli need to sort this issue out. It's getting a bit silly now.
Merc were pitifully inadequate at providing a car that can RACE and not just qualify. FFS chaps, points are awarded when you finish, not where you start.
As for the blunder in pit lane. I have said its fecking dangerous for cars to run side by side. It MUST stop. If your released in an unsafe manner, the onus is on the driver to Brake and fall in behind. Anything else could lead to a huge crash and loss of life. It must stop so the FIA get my vote for allowing this practice of running cars side by side to continue.
LOL, the Pirelli apes are getting some 'love letters' on faceborg
The problem is half the muppets writing comments on that page think its Pirelli's fault and fail to see the tyre company are delivering to a set brief. If the FIA were getting complaints I could understand. I don't see a problem with fans showing dismay about the tyre situation but to get personal with Pirelli is moronic IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Couldnt agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
The tyres are not good for F1 IMO, but some people think Pirelli couldn't make durable tyres if they wanted too, which is surely ridiculous.
I mean in their last period in F1 they produced a normal racing tyre, so its the people who decided these tyres were needed or wanted that need to answer questions.
However I would add to that there are some issues to do with the number of failures we have seen and that is an issue for Pirelli.
Honorable mention goes to Vettel for his radio transmission:
"Get them (Mercedes) out of the way. They are too slow"!
What a douche..... :rolleyes:
yeah, remember his tricks behind the safety car....Quote:
Originally Posted by kfzmeister
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Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
I agree. If Pirelli change the compounds and Lotus & Ferrari are no longer competitive, then what? If Mercedes can influence the tyre choice, well that's cheating, the playground is meant to be same for all.
No particular donkeys today for me....
You're just used to the flat out racing that we've had for few years with refueling. Before that F1 was always about saving tyres, engines, brakes and fuel etc. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
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Originally Posted by DexDexter
You're just used to the flat out racing that we've had for few years with refueling. Before that F1 was always about saving tyres, engines, brakes and fuel etc. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Have to say I have enjoyed the tyres this year until today. The tyres ruined the race. Although Ferrari and Lotus did well on them so why is everyone else struggling? So Pirrelli is the donkey...this time for me.