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Clearly Button for me.
Webber.
He has a car that is so much faster than anyone else's, sure, he is a slave in that team and treated as nr.2, but that was one of the worst performances ever. He should be fired after a joke like this.
In addition, every team besides RB - About time you guys make a car that is less than 1 second slower than what RB has.
Webber, after about 20 laps in or so he was losing time everywhere. Also David Croft for his excessively verbose similes while commentating.
I don't know, we had so many camels today. Many drivers and teams screwed up today. You've got Button and Pérez for overly aggressive overtaking/defending, Ferrari for the DRS drama, perhaps Alonso if he was warned by the team not to use DRS, maybe Pirelli if all the punctures were due to an inappropriate construction... so hard to choose!
Ferrari.
Honourary mention: Mark Webber for being completely useless on a day his team mate completely dominated the race.
Pirelli: Just because. They'll be my donkey on principle until they're gone.
Gutierrez for successfully managing to crash out of last place.
I would hope Webber had a KERS failure or something because that race pace was pretty bad.
Apparently they signed a new 5-year deal this weekend, so you'll be waiting a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
The very good Mark Webber doing magic in a god awful Red Bull.
Donkeys for racing too hard? We should have more donkeys like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by N4D13
Button/McLaren for ruining Chico's race. As spectacular as the dogfight was here was a prime example why we have team orders in motorsport. Had McLaren told Button to let Chico by - who was clearly the faster car - a top 5 was do-able.
Alonso's DRS mechanism.
He had some crap races last year too - Spa springs to mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
Me, for getting drunk, falling asleep, and missing the first 15 laps.
Checo did good :up:
Button gets my camel for whining, and Webber for being so slow in a winner car .
Pheww. Time to take stock.
Jens was strange. OK, Checo nerfed him up the arse and was more like a hitman than a driver but still?
Webber. That car is awesome and as Gary says, a second quicker in race trim. Where the F was he?
OK, Sergio gets a nod as well. Sticking your elbows out is good but we cant afford to compromise our race strategy like that. Save it for the bad guys :D
If they had given team orders either way they would have caught Webber in the middle of the race. When they had a lap without fighting they were closing down on Webber, but every time they started scrapping they were dropping seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
No doubt if they had given team orders in either direction they would be voted donkey of the race for that by some people as well. Personally I'm happy they let them race.
Ferrari (although Alonso did well to score some points in spite of all his problems) and Webber.
Button didn't impress much, either.
I don't know - Jenson pushing Checo out of the track and Sergio doing the same with Alonso were a bit over the line IMHO. I was surprised that the stewards didn't even bother to investigate that. You are supposed to leave a car's width, aren't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyL
agreedQuote:
Originally Posted by wedge
for me
button - for the above stated reasons and more. The team should have told button to elt Perez go. He would have finished p5 ahed of Hamilton
Ferrarri for DRS problems ( although alonso is in the DotR category) and whatever issues they had in setup or tires with Massa
speaking off...Massa for ruining Sutil's race by running wide and making unnecessary contact with the force India
Guiterrez, yet again. Time to call Kobayashi, it's just not working out.
Webber for for being webber, that chop block on perez is worthy of a penalty, then a miserable final stint and being reeled in by both Hamilton and Perez in a far superior car.
That's it
Webber, that car is too good to have a race like that!
nah, very close at the front of the field. the difference is vettel. ferrari had the best race pace today. isn't much between the top 3 teams anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
Camel is Rosberg for me. Qualifying so high up and finishing so far down. Also like Garry says, every team there except rbr, for making a car a second a lap slower than vettel s!
Whoever prepped the Mercedes. Rosberg was given a camel to drive - exactly how much fuel did they put in that thing!!!
I'm surprised there hasn't been a complaint of racism for the thread title. Oh well, they will have to get over "the hump." Get it? The hump? But I digress . . .
Esteban doesn't seem to be aware of his surroundings lately.
Rosberg, though I imagine it's the car.
Massa squandered a golden opportunity by messing up his front wing, though he may have had additional car issues.
Button--please stop the whining.
Gutierrez, seems to be out of depth.
Vettel, had the best car but didn't lap the field... poor show!
:p
I don't know. Maybe the Camel was the defending. It was pretty aggressive.
There are quite a few in an incident packed race, bet I cant remember them all.
- Webber - As said above. With a car that fast he shouldn't be finishing 7th. I mean WTF?
- Massa - Similar a decent car with none of Fernandos DRS problems despite a puncture he should have done better.
- Mercedes - For still producing a car that cant work its tyres well enough.
- Rosberg - Despite some brilliant battling he finished way behind Lewis despite starting 8 places ahead.
- Button - For moaning and for putting Perez onto an area where years ago a wall would have been.
- Perez - Not blameless. Hit Button and was moving around alot on the straights.
- Mclaren - For not controlling there own drivers. They could have ended up off road but also had the pace for 5th & 6th.
- Gutierrez - For finding a way to make running 22nd look worse and couldnt re catch a caterham.
Actually, he had two punctures, didn't he? It's impossible to compare Ferrari's drivers in the Bahrain GP, so I couldn't really blame Massa for doing anything wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by steveaki13
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F1 drivers to be left without cockpit warning lights for Bahrain GP - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.comQuote:
the FIA has had to switch off the telemetry aspect of its marshalling system because of concerns it was not bulletproof enough for use in an actual grand prix.The telemetry system informs the drivers about warning flags, the use of a safety car, and also when DRS has been enabled or disabled.
OK. Didnt realise that. Thanks. I officially withdraw my Massa vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by N4D13
Pirelli for proving yet again they have got their tire compound choice wrong for this season. They are not just donkeys, they are THE DONKEY!
Button for whinging over a little bit or tough racing from Checo and then finishing 4 places behind him - i.e. Pirellie
Finally, Mercedes for having one car whose behavior changed mid race and another car that destroyed it's rear tires i.e. Pirelli
Rosberg was the biggest donkey/camel of the race (unless someone tells me something I don't know about his car). He starts the race from pole and finishes in 9th place. Also behind his teammate who started from 9th.
A bit harsh. He was limited by his car eating its tires from what I saw. I thought he did a fine job considering the circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by zako85
The other thing to consider is Nico spent a bit too much time and fuel during the opening laps defending his positions and fighting to take them back. Much like Hamilton did in Malaysia. Nico had the same message to save fuel in the last stint, whereas Lewis had been conservative at the start allowing him to push towards the end. Lewis also mentioned that the car felt a lot better towards the end on a lighter load. This to me points towards Mercedes needing to find a solution rather than the drivers. They have two very good drivers who are out-driving what they are given IMO.
The camel of Bahrain? Felipe Massa's right rear tires..
Do we know the cause of the punctures? There was a bit of CF floating abour and the curbs are quite abrasive.
I don't think anyone who actually got in the points could be called the camel of the race so will have to go with Gutierrez for being totally anonymous and finishing behind the Caterham of Pic
Button, he is such a moaner SHUTUP and race properly!
Perez did nothing wrong he was racing hard as it should be done.
Button will moan till the cows come home... Then again he has always been like that.
Couldn't agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coulthard Fan
And his comment "That isn't normally how I go racing." Yeah, right. Running your teammate off the track is completely normal. Also, ruining your faster teammate's race is completely fine too, but god forbid he tries to overtake the self-appointed alpha male team leader at McLaren.
First it's the Pirelli tires, then DRS, and now incompetent morons moaning about wheel to wheel racing. Let's find more ways to ruin great racing in F1! I wonder how Button feels about Arnoux and Villenueve banging wheels a million times in the same lap. Is that not how he goes "racing"?
I'm sure you weren't one of them, but some people, who now cheer the great battle between Checo and Button are the same people, who demanded that Vettel obey team order lest they crash into each other, so there still seems to be a bit of double standard around.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
For us as the fans the battles between Vettel and Webber in Sepang and Checo/Button in Shakir were brilliant to watch. From a teams perspective both were highly unwelcome, because the current generation of Pirelli's cannot be used for racing. Vettel/Webber at Sepang risked ruining their tires and Button at Shakir actually did. On both occasions the teams reacted wrongly. At Sepang RB kept Vettel behind for no reason, when he had caught Webber b< lap 26 and McLaren should have told Button to let Perez pass. That could have enabled him to get through with 3 stops and finish 7th instead of 10th. McLaren is currently closer to the midfield than the top and on a day were Ferrari disintegrates and Webber decides to be crap, it was a penalty shot without goalkeeper to haul some serious points. Forcing an obviously faster team mate to battle down the other car of the team, risking both results, showed that McLaren still haven't got the slightest clue about strategy.
I was pretty hush around the whole Malaysian GP fiasco, because IMO at the end of the day it's racing, and if Vettel was faster, he deserved the victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
BUT details are hazy around the whole issue. If Multi-21 was an agreed upon and understood term before the race and they shook on it, then Vettel broke a pact in a very sleazy manner. If not, then they should have been allowed to race as Vettel was clearly faster.
The weird thing is how Vettel behaved after the race, first saying he doesn't know there was an agreement, then apologizing, then doing a complete 180 a few days later after Marko Hell-slut probably told him to grow a pair or he probably read a few internet topics. Now, those are double standards.
Mclaren on the other hand didn't issue any team orders, so the drivers were free to race. Button on many occassions didn't leave Checo any room, and now is moaning after being outballed by Sergio. Titmarsh will now probably tell Button to drink some Gatorade and toughen up and both Mclarens will probably crash into each other on the first corner at Catalunya.