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... with 22 Power Stages :D : Une diffusion TV exceptionnelle pour le Rallye de France-Alsace | Rally | Automoto365.com - actualité photos - résultats classements officiels - interviews exclusives - forum
The whole year without live TV and now a rally with all stages live on TV. With all the problems we know about the upcoming year, in my land this is called to get fat to die. :(
Let's enjoy the moment...
perfect...once more the french are going to broadcast their event live...lets hope we get pacenotes this time and not a rallyradio voice-over like last time....it was the reason i turned the thing off.
But on what kind of channel will it be broadcasted? If it is a payed channel, only available in France, then good for the French but not for the rest.
An online stream combined with live TV would be ideal
Massive thumbs up for the initiative though!
I wouldn't get too excited just yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
I'm sure this will be just like all the Live TV projects that have happened in the WRC so far this year (Sweden, Argentina, Portugal, Mexico) and only be available in France through those channels. Unless someone can come up with a way to crack their geo-locks?
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
For me it seems a way for Citroen (who most probably is paying that) to say goodbye to their French fans, i hope i'll be wrong though...
Why is the Power Stage SS20? Doesn't it have to be the last SS?
Google Earth Map is now out Programme du Rallye Wrc de France-Alsace 2012
pretty cool that aigner will drive for proton, i think he´s very very fast.
Chardonnets ds3 livery
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He is a very talented driver for sure. At least he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkstar
On Barum he drove for the points and still was faster on many occasions than the local Mitsubishi and Subaru drivers.
He crashed with the Proton on testing few weeks ago. I think he will be slower that PG.
Don't forget that none of the fast locals on Barum had R4. Orsák who was closest (except the change of tyre on one stage) also had only N4 spec. Evo IX. In CZ most of the Evo/Impreza drivers prefer using N4 cars and to fight for class victory instead of being behind quite numerous S2000 cars in class 2.
Also dont forget Nikara even with r4 was in a totally other rally vs Aigners sti r4
I did not count that in mind :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
In any case the rally was valid for the CZ championship so this was another reason I assume.
Lowest entry fee in the championship.
They should better give Nikara a drive, that guy is crazy with probably every car he gets :pQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
true, but be honest, nobody really expected Nikara in finish, i bet at least Aigner not, this was just crazy angry flat out after his early technical problems. There was simply no reason for Andi to push hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
regarding N4: so far for me there was no improvement visible at any driver which changed from N4 to R4, so i don´t believe its a very big advantage to have R4-kit!
And don´t forget Aigner captured his PWRC-title in a close fight with Hänninen!
But finally i agree, Aigner will not be able to fight with top-S2000 pilots in france, in the last years he simply has a lack of stage-kms + it´s the first rallye for him in an S2000!
With all respect to Andi in 2008 it was not a real fight with Juho who had technical problems in almost every rally. Despite that he won 51 stages compared to 11 of Andi.
I am really surprised to see ICETROPEZ as a sponsor. It's an alcoholic beverage brand and I thought that form of publicity was prohibited in France by the Evin law......? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
The Evin Law
And that was one of the first years that Juho started to grow to a top driver he's probably now 3 times faster as then..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Ok, to be honest that fact disappeared in my mind, but still i doubt Aigner is a bad pick, with an age of 27 he still can have a good future in this sport, and that he can be quick on stages like in france he prooved with an 6th place in Rallye Deutschland 2006. Btw Proton made the decission of picking him after the test (including an off), so i guess he made his lessons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Regarding Nikara: I agree he would deserve a chance in a proper car, i still have his crazy ride from the star driver shootout in his Fiesta ST in my mind (the crazy kid lost his underfloorprotection during rough sliding, and kept pushing as hell) but first i think he has to learn to keep the car on the road.
Don't get me wrong, I respect Andi a lot. He is very good and spectacular driver ;)
My bad. didn't see there was a 0% drink as well as a 6,5% drink. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Harrach vs Baumshlager had the same difference with n4 -r4 version of Harrachs evo9?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adler
Aigner before some years was a talent.Since all these days, competitors like Hanninen have huge progress.Maybe the train is lost for him.
About speed now is he faster than Harrach inside Austria?....
Yes difference after changing to R4 was the same, advantage of a couple of seconds per rallye for Harrach before and after. Same with Saibel for example, wasn´t it the same with Orsak in Czech republik?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
In terms of speed i doubt Aigner would be faster than Harrach, but Harrach make too much mistakes, even when he is in an comfortable lead, but hard to say, Aigner did only Jänner rallye this year with a bad flew and an early technical out....Aigners outings in ÖRM 2011 with the R3 Clio were impressive and even more impressive to watch though.
But you might be right, the train is maybe lost, hard for rallye drivers in this days....
why i remember that while with n4 was loosing,when he switched to r4 he won 3-4 rallies?I am not remember right? Orsak is not a benchmark when he wasloosing minutes from Pech with same car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adler
When you try to compete best s2000 car, with a road car 2005 model yes mistake is possible to happen.How many offs had Harrach last 2 years? Again i remember him very steady even hunting Baumshlagers fabia.Or i am not remember right again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adler
I don´t know why, last 2 rallyes with N4 56 seconds and 50 seconds overall lead for Beppo, first 2 rallyes with R4 46 seconds and 5 seconds overall lead for Beppo, nobody made big mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I agree, Beppo is allways on the limit or close to it, that´s for sure the reason why he had 3 DNF´s caused by accidents out of 6 rallyes this year.
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Originally Posted by Barreis
Very much so this year,, about £700 cheaper for us :)
Looking forward to going back again next week,,
An event we really enjoy, gets better each year
If anyone is in the service area please come and say hello !!
Fiesta R2 with the Dorset and Somerset Air Ambulance helicopter on it No 80 ??
Last year was same car between Pech and Orsak,just N4 no R4.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
There can be big differences between 2 Evo9 N4's :)
for sure but which one is ''better''? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
No idea, just reacting to the "same car" fact. On paper they are the same... Maybe irl to :) But even then, testing/no testing, insurance, setup, a lot of factors that can make a big difference.
Tomas Enge gravel crew for Prokop
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Μikkelsen was out of road at recce.
What you mean he went off the road while recceing ??? I thought all they could do was 30 mph or something like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii