why no penalty for Hamilton?

Very danerous to spin and then pull out in front of the other car.

The stewards are blind. Must be because he is black.

You missed the drive through?

ehm, he was given a drive-through?

LOL Markablindy?

Like I said no penalty.

They just said a minute ago that he had to do the drive thro for the after spin move, but the penalty was a joke.

Completely

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Like I said no penalty.

They just said a minute ago that he had to do the drive thro for the after spin move, but the penalty was a joke.

Completely

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How is a drive-through not a penalty? WTF? And could have waited a bit more before starting the thread. This is just epic fail.

http://www.epicfail.com/images/darth...-epic-fail.jpg

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Like I said no penalty.

They just said a minute ago that he had to do the drive thro for the after spin move, but the penalty was a joke.

Completely

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What should they do then? Make him drink from the black person tap?

Strange. We all know a drive through or Stop and Go are the penalties in F1 and he deserved a penalty and the stewards did the right thing and gave him one, the action was taken end of issue.

and Lewis apologised which is fair enough

the penalty was a joke compared to the stupidity and danger.

Given his prior stunts this season, the penalty should have been far more, such as a stop and go(still a joke), or simply loss of position at the end, say 5 places--perhaps just a black flag and DQ.

It is one thing to have a bump while two drivers are fighting for position in the middle of a corner, but it is totally different to spin out, sit there and re-enter like he did.

Given the prior transgressions, one race ban would be perfectly fair and appropriate.

And this is the first time that I have ever said any driver should suffer a race ban, but this should be enough prior bad acts to warrant the punishment


apology? What a joke!!

Sincerely, a drive through is OK for me. A stop and go would have been fine as well, but nothing else. His move was pretty dumb and reckless, but he got a penalty for that, and I think it was a fair one.

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the penalty was a joke compared to the stupidity and danger.

Given his prior stunts this season, the penalty should have been far more, such as a stop and go(still a joke), or simply loss of position at the end, say 5 places--perhaps just a black flag and DQ.

It is one thing to have a bump while two drivers are fighting for position in the middle of a corner, but it is totally different to spin out, sit there and re-enter like he did.

Given the prior transgressions, one race ban would be perfectly fair and appropriate.

And this is the first time that I have ever said any driver should suffer a race ban, but this should be enough prior bad acts to warrant the punishment


apology? What a joke!!

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I agree that the move was well out of order. But the deserved drive-thru penalty was served and I don't think any further action was appropriate. He went from leading the race to 6th place. That's a fairly harsh lesson learned I think. And, perhaps an apology doesn't mean much to you but, to a lot of people, a sincere statement of 'sorry, my fault', goes a long way. Don't be so abrasive.

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I agree that the move was well out of order. But the deserved drive-thru penalty was served and I don't think any further action was appropriate. He went from leading the race to 6th place. That's a fairly harsh lesson learned I think. And, perhaps an apology doesn't mean much to you but, to a lot of people, a sincere statement of 'sorry, my fault', goes a long way. Don't be so abrasive.

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I would agree, if this was his first event of the season, but it is NOT. How many penalties and drive throughs as he had this season??

So time to send a big message

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I agree that the move was well out of order. But the deserved drive-thru penalty was served and I don't think any further action was appropriate. He went from leading the race to 6th place. That's a fairly harsh lesson learned I think. And, perhaps an apology doesn't mean much to you but, to a lot of people, a sincere statement of 'sorry, my fault', goes a long way. Don't be so abrasive.

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Absolutely right, in my view.

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You missed the drive through?

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Billy boy having trouble seeing through the KKK hood I reckon! :laugh:

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I agree that the move was well out of order. But the deserved drive-thru penalty was served and I don't think any further action was appropriate. He went from leading the race to 6th place. That's a fairly harsh lesson learned I think. And, perhaps an apology doesn't mean much to you but, to a lot of people, a sincere statement of 'sorry, my fault', goes a long way. Don't be so abrasive.

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Yeah I agree completely here. A penalty was just about deserved. He clearly didn't see DiResta. I felt DiResta didn't actually have to go onto the grass but he did. All the same a penalty was deserved and Hamilton took responsibility and apologised. There was no harm done and he was man enough to hold his hand up and say it was his fault.

This thread is an abismal attempt at wumming. markasilly is totally on his own on this one from what I can tell. At least until vhatever arrives of course. But that has become all too predictable at this stage, hasn't it?

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the penalty was a joke compared to the stupidity and danger.

Given his prior stunts this season, the penalty should have been far more, such as a stop and go(still a joke), or simply loss of position at the end, say 5 places--perhaps just a black flag and DQ.

It is one thing to have a bump while two drivers are fighting for position in the middle of a corner, but it is totally different to spin out, sit there and re-enter like he did.

Given the prior transgressions, one race ban would be perfectly fair and appropriate.

And this is the first time that I have ever said any driver should suffer a race ban, but this should be enough prior bad acts to warrant the punishment


apology? What a joke!!

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I agree, He has been endangering other drivers all year :mad:

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This thread is an abismal attempt at wumming. markasilly is totally on his own on this one from what I can tell.

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A few pints anyone? :beer:

This thread is an abysmal showing of disrespect to the thread starter .

Calling him names like "Markasilly" and "Markablindy" is against the rules of this forum .
Referencing the KKK is offensive .
Taking about the black tap is also offensive .

You people need to learn some manners .
I'm sick to death of this crap .



I agree with 'Billy here .
Driving into traffic , expecting them to react should be punished with far more than a drive-through .

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The incident was no big deal and Hamilton was unlucky to be given a penalty in the first place IMO. His spin put him in a dangerous position so it was only right he attempted to get out of it. His drive was good today and I am pleased overall.

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To be fair though if you're in a dangerous positon on the track and the other drivers can see you (as was the case) then the safest thing is just to stay where you are.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

This thread is an abysmal showing of disrespect to the thread starter .

Calling him names like "Markasilly" and "Markablindy" is against the rules of this forum .
Referencing the KKK is offensive .
Taking about the black tap is also offensive .

You people need to learn some manners .
I'm sick to death of this crap .



I agree with 'Billy here .
Driving into traffic , expecting them to react should be punished with far more than a drive-through .

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You might want to cut these guys some slack. They are not used to black folks playing the "race card" in Europe like they do in the states and being labeled a "racist" just because you were born a white male.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

This thread is an abysmal showing of disrespect to the thread starter .

Calling him names like "Markasilly" and "Markablindy" is against the rules of this forum .
Referencing the KKK is offensive .
Taking about the black tap is also offensive .

You people need to learn some manners .
I'm sick to death of this crap .



I agree with 'Billy here .
Driving into traffic , expecting them to react should be punished with far more than a drive-through .

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Oh come on, the markablindy reference is obvious. people call me Denial or Baniel and I don't see the issue with it and I suspect with Markabilly being made of sterner stuff than some other people he took our comments on the chin and didn't take great offence. If he was offended he's more than welcome to say and I shall never make that sort of joke again.

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It was calculated and he was spinning his car before Di Resta came off the apex of the previous corner so I saw nothing wrong with it whatsover. Its nice to see he's the main talking point even though he didn't win the race though. Two impressive races in a row now for Hamilton and its clear they have the pace to eat into Vettel's lead, I think we're in for an exciting climax.

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Is it impressive though? Again he's the talking point for the wrong reason.....

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

This thread is an abysmal showing of disrespect to the thread starter .

Calling him names like "Markasilly" and "Markablindy" is against the rules of this forum .
Referencing the KKK is offensive .
Taking about the black tap is also offensive .

You people need to learn some manners .
I'm sick to death of this crap .



I agree with 'Billy here .
Driving into traffic , expecting them to react should be punished with far more than a drive-through .

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Oh look, the anti-Hamilton cavilary has arrived. You might be sick to death of this crap but I'm sick to death of silly supporters like yourself giving the one real racer on the grid a hard time for trying to race. It's people like you that are ruining the sport. If you don't like a bit of wheel to wheel action then then going watch Tennis or something. Stop poisoning F1 with your nonsense.

F1 is motorracing and motorracing is dangerous. I can't help but laugh when people come along and say he is putting other drivers lives at risk on track. THEY put THEIR lives at risk everytime they jump in the cockpit. They do this knowingly. If you think Hamilton bad then go back and watch some real racing that went on in the 70s, 80s and 90s. Then tucktail and run under your bed, pee your pants and leave F1 for the real men to race in.

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Is it impressive though? Again he's the talking point for the wrong reason.....

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In fairness, he got the penalty. This whole thread is a joke. He's an easy target and that's why he is picked on. It was an incident that borderline deserved a penalty. He got it, he served it, and he admitted he was wrong. He is the best driver on the grid. It has always been the best drivers that have been the most talked about.

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I think today showed why he is arguably the best driver in Formula One at the moment and he's really only a talking for the wrong reason's in some peoples eyes, so hardly an influential audience.

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Huh? He made mistakes just like Button, Vettel and Alonso. I think if you take a step back and take your union flag tinted glasses off then you will see that at this point in time he's a distant 2nd best to Vettel at best.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

This thread is an abysmal showing of disrespect to the thread starter .

Calling him names like "Markasilly" and "Markablindy" is against the rules of this forum .
Referencing the KKK is offensive .
Taking about the black tap is also offensive .

You people need to learn some manners .
I'm sick to death of this crap .



I agree with 'Billy here .
Driving into traffic , expecting them to react should be punished with far more than a drive-through .

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What a load of cobblers.

You neglect to reference Billy suggesting that, perhaps, another poster is a paedophile, attempting to lure young boys. :rolleyes:

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How stupid

That ain't Plato, he been dead 2,500 years.


Looks more like the photo that donKey constantly emails to young boys, hoping to lure them in

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Get a life, or get outta here. :down:

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In fairness, he got the penalty. This whole thread is a joke. He's an easy target and that's why he is picked on. It was an incident that borderline deserved a penalty. He got it, he served it, and he admitted he was wrong. He is the best driver on the grid. It has always been the best drivers that have been the most talked about.

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I'm sorry, but by what standard is Lewis the best driver on the grid? :confused: As a team owner you'd have to look at him as a risk to his team mate (he crashed into Button in rather inexcusable circumstances), he mouths off and if we're honest, Vettel and Alonso are easily his equals. On a good day Webber and Button are there with him too.

I want to be a Lewis fan, I really do, when he beat Alonso in 2007 I really wanted to like him! But since then his mouth has grown in size, he's been unable to take responsibility for most of the incidents he's caused (fair play for what he did today though) and I could go on if I want.

Mark, I know admitting you are wrong is 'uncool' but admit it, you missed the penalty and you are trying to make out you didn't?

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He's a clear step above Vettel and so is Alonso. I think thats obvious but its also my opinion and I can deliver it without trying to generalise you.

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With all due respect you'd have to be absolutely bonkers to think that Hamilton is clearly above Vettel and Alonso. He's a good driver, no doubts about that, but there's a reason why Seb is well on his way to a 2nd title and Hamilton is busy running into other people all to often. Sure part of that reason is the car, but Hamilton has had some great cars also.

I agree, he deserved a harsher penalty for this.

I think he has done enough this season to warrant a race ban, just to teach him a lesson, which he repeatedly seems to miss with his dangerous driving.

Guys, keep it clean and don't force me to close this too, or many will be sent on vacations for long time !

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I agree, He has been endangering other drivers all year :mad:

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He's not the messiah, he's a vewy naughty boy ! :mad: :devil: :andrea:

Penalty was absolutley the correct thing, it was a careless and dangerous, but he didn't hit anyone and didn't take anyone out. He had to spin the car round at some point, in his haste to get going again he says he didn't see Di Resta in time and then apologised on camera and in person, and accepted the penalty was fair.

Far more professional and reasoned Hamilton we saw at the end of the race today.

Worst anti Hamilton post ever.....

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I'm sorry, but by what standard is Lewis the best driver on the grid? :confused: As a team owner you'd have to look at him as a risk to his team mate (he crashed into Button in rather inexcusable circumstances), he mouths off and if we're honest, Vettel and Alonso are easily his equals. On a good day Webber and Button are there with him too.

I want to be a Lewis fan, I really do, when he beat Alonso in 2007 I really wanted to like him! But since then his mouth has grown in size, he's been unable to take responsibility for most of the incidents he's caused (fair play for what he did today though) and I could go on if I want.

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I guarantee you that any team owner on the grid would be happy to have Hamilton on board. He beat Alonso as a rookie. And make up any excuse that you like but they both had the same equipment throughout the entire year. Alonso admitted that himself. Hamilton is consistent, quick and rarely makes mistakes. I do not rate Vettel to be as good as Hamilton. I'd rather have somone that can overtake when the opportunity arises. He is an aggressive racer. The coming together with his teammate in Canada was a racing incident as ruled by the stewards. Vettel is great when leading out front but as shown today he can't cut it when he's under pressure from the big boys. He showed the same last week. He couldn't even overtake Felipe, he had to do it in the pitstop. There are pros and cons for both drivers but I put Hamilton a cut above him any day. Button is one of the best drivers on the grid and on most days Button leaves him eat his dust.

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I guarantee you that any team owner on the grid would be happy to have Hamilton on board. He beat Alonso as a rookie. And make up any excuse that you like but they both had the same equipment throughout the entire year. Alonso admitted that himself. Hamilton is consistent, quick and rarely makes mistakes. I do not rate Vettel to be as good as Hamilton. I'd rather have somone that can overtake when the opportunity arises. He is an aggressive racer. The coming together with his teammate in Canada was a racing incident as ruled by the stewards. Vettel is great when leading out front but as shown today he can't cut it when he's under pressure from the big boys. He showed the same last week. He couldn't even overtake Felipe, he had to do it in the pitstop. There are pros and cons for both drivers but I put Hamilton a cut above him any day. Button is one of the best drivers on the grid and on most days Button leaves him eat his dust.

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Rarely makes mistakes? :confused: Are we talking about the same Lewis Hamilton here? :confused:

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I guarantee you that any team owner on the grid would be happy to have Hamilton on board. He beat Alonso as a rookie.

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I did agree with Nigel Roebuck's remarks in the latest Motor Sport when he wrote that possibly Hamilton has never been as consistently impressive as he was in his very first season.

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I did agree with Nigel Roebuck's remarks in the latest Motor Sport when he wrote that possibly Hamilton has never been as consistently impressive as he was in his very first season.

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I tend to agree somewhat. He has never really been as impressive as he was in that first season.....

I like Hamilton for his style. He's a racer, not someone who is going to sit back and settle for a crap postion. Much like Montoya, he often makes poor judgement while racing, but his actual skill level is up there with the best of the best. I honestly think he drove the best race today and suffered mostly due to him and the team rolling the dice when they thought the rain would stay.

That being said, he made a boneheaded move after the spin and deserved his penalty. I'm not sure if it was lack of seeing the other cars, the red mist of just trying to stay ahead of Jenson, or just pure stupidity. But he made the move and paid a penalty that IMO was fair.