I mean about the possibility of a Saturday finish, not new stages. Just trying to book flights as earlier as possible. Kiitos
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I mean about the possibility of a Saturday finish, not new stages. Just trying to book flights as earlier as possible. Kiitos
Nice to know any gossip from the planning of NORF 2010.... ;)
Just a second... I'll have look
Sorry service park looks still empty...
Oh... is it this coming weekend then? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jiipee64
Is there any snow or are we going to face another NORF without snow? ;-PQuote:
Originally Posted by jiipee64
Can we have a warm and sunny event in 2010 please? :)
Computer says no.Quote:
Originally Posted by J4MIE
NORF 2010 will start on Thuirsday evening with one SS in Jyväskylä (maybe Harju?) and road positions for Friday will be based on results of this stage. Rally will end on Saturday evening so no stages on Sunday and total stage mileage is a bit over 300 kms.Quote:
Originally Posted by General Prim
And no Killeri SSS at all. I'm a bit saddened by the fact that the lenght of the rally won't be longer. I would've hoped for some 60 kms of stages for Thursday evening if Sunday was cut out, but apparently - no.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
Very interesting. Do you know how exactly they will decide the road positions? Reverse the top 10?Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
If you sweep the Friday stages for coming first on the SS then what is the incentive to win that opening stage? Especially when the field is so close you could win the first stage by a tenth and then lose so much more time road sweeping.
There's no further news on how road positions will be decided. This information was given out by AKK Sports CEO Jarmo Muhonen in his article on rally's newsletter. It said, translated from Finnish:
He placed his words so that it can't be ruled out either way that whether the running order is decided normally throughout the field or perhaps so other way for Top 10 or Top 15. Like you mentioned, it propably isn't a stage win anyone desires to take if it means you're running first the next day.Quote:
"We'll start on Thursday 29.7.2010 with little celebration and driving one stage in the city, by which results' will the running order for the next day be decided. Idea in itself isn't new, we have thought about it for years. Now we want to pilot it for the whole series in Finland".
Mahonen also promised that there'll be plenty of positive surprises according the route and show surrounding it. It must be remembered that it is the 60th 1000 Lakes.
Damn...! I have to be conducting my service to this country just the same year when the 60th anniversary edition of Finnish world rally. I'd say what a great timing...not. :(
I'm hoping getting to see Saturday's action live though. So that I can keep my consecutive Finnish world rally visits going. That would be 17th.
I would hope they do some reversing of the road order. If you're a driver and you think if I win this I can be tenth on the road tomorrow then that is real incentive to push. But if not then I feel it would be a tactical nightmare.
Too much we see drivers not wanting to push so this would be a good idea if they do the reverse. I suppose there is also a question of whether this will be allowed by the FIA. It looks like they are trying to give organisers more freedom so lets hope so.
Also here's hoping they can get some cameras there and make this a live tv stage.
"The concept had FIA's and ISC's approval last week", said Mahonen, but again he could be referring to Saturday finish only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I remember in 99 they had a stage in the city of Jyväskylä, in the area of Savela. In and out of the houses and finnish at the icehockeyarena, I do think.
Can it be like the same in 2010? :confused:
Clerk of the course Kai Tarkiainen said in an interview for YLE news that they've been in contact with Finnish and other drivers that own historic rally cars used in 1000 Lakes. Intention is to drive the cars through some of the stages plus an exhibition to Service Park area.
At this stage of the planning, there are 19 stages: 140 kms for Friday and 160 kms for Saturday. Route will be published as usual at the time Rally Guide 1 is published. 2009 RG1 was out February 27th.
So then, there will be more stages per day to get to then, i.e. with timing that lets you get to 3-4 per day instead of the usual stay for two runs and maybe one other if you're lucky?
Good news! I was tired of wasting my time with boring driving on Sunday, when the game was already over. Let's now hope the event will keep the excitment until the end of the day. Can't wait... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
Not necessarily if rally totals only 300 km. This year it was 345 km, 131 km on Leg 1, 167 km on Leg 2 and 47 on Leg 3. Clerk of the Course Kai Tarkiainen has already mentioned that it could be 140 km on Leg 1 and 160 km on Leg 2 which would mean that Saturday would actually be shorter than this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by J4MIE
In an interview for local newspaper Jämsän Seutu (Saturday November 28th) Route Manager Pekka Tähtinen mentioned that there won't be many changes to the stages around Jämsä region (Leg 2), however they're just starting to make deals for which roads are available. I understood from the interview that Himos stage could be in danger. From another source I've heard a rumour that Kaipolanvuori stage which was used in 2007 and 2009 could make a comeback next year.
I remember reading from some FIA regulations or related material that WRC events should end (meaning: podium) before 6 PM so that media coverage could be done in time. I should find out about that where it was, but could this be the case with Saturday-finish rallies as well. I really hope not.
Other new things I learned from the Jämsän Seutu article was that the podium will be at Lutakko harbour (which is on the other side of the road from the Service Park) and also - alas - that there will be no additional Group F Vetomies race in 2010.
So on the face of it it doesn't seem like the Finnish fans are getting a better deal here.
Probably an earlier start too on the Saturday morning. I was expecting rallies to be adding km's rather than shaving them off.
thats good news, Kaipolanvuori is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
This year first stage on Saturday started 7.13 if I recall it correct, so it can't be much earlier then...Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
and what about Group F??
Will they be there?
Already said that the news is they won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koppomsbo
Maybe it's not quite so good new then if you just enjoy being out in the forests :( Though I suppose it will mean I need to take one less day off work to go. We'll see when the route is announced I guess.
There will be a great party at Lahjavuori on Saturday night then...? And at the Paviljonki of course too.
Anyway for us swedes that probably will wait until sunday evening to get back home on ferry from Turku it could be fun in Jyväskylä by Saturday evening.
So now after FIA's World Council, must we expect a early Thursday start and a late finish on Saturday as other events are increasing total kms?
No, schedule will be as already announced.Quote:
Originally Posted by General Prim
So shakedown in Laajavuori as usual on Thursday morning still?
Yes shakedown on Thursday morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
Yeah, but will it be at Laajavuori? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
Wasn´t it said "center of Jyväskylä"?
No, the first stage that decides the starting order is in jyväskylä.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Thanks guys :)
Sorry, mixed it up with first stage.... :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
So, how many forumers is planning a trip to NORF this year? :)
Hopefully many as possible, its anniversery rally, there will be all kind of happenings, and also legendary drivers will drive, everyone Welcome :) I assure you you wont be dissapointed.
"This was not sponsored by Finnish Tourist Authoritys"
Well, we are four of us going over there :D Looking forward to it A LOT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
I´ll be there and my son as well. The new itenary mixes things up a bit so we have to go by ferry from Stockholm already during monday maybe. But going home will be as usual on Sunday night from Åbo.
Hope there will be plenty of things to do on Saturday night..? :cool:
Guys, maybe it would be clever to book the accomodation a bit earlier than usually, Kimi and the other program there will be might bring people that usually dont go there.
Can someone confirm that kankkunen will be there ??? if he is... then how long should someone should start to search for accommodation in order to find a good place close to the rally route ?