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3rd - Rubins and Ross Brawn - Superb
2nd - Nick and some of the best passing for a long time. I am not a "quick Nick" fan but he really showed strong today and at any other race, would have had my vote.
1st - What a drive!! Outstanding!! Need I say more. A very happy Knockie :D
rubens!!!
Hamilton did what was expected and did it well, but Rubens!! From 16 to 3rd!!
100% correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Hamilton was stunning today.
I would say Rubins with the assistance of Ross Brawn, followed very closely by Lewis with an exceptional drive in the wet.
Hamilton for me...stunning driving under pressure when everyone else seemed yo be losing their heads. Rubens did very well but merely keeping on the road doesn't make you driver of the day.
Heidfeld definitely. Barrichello of course very good. Pity about the refuelling problem.
Very impressive drive from Hamilton - he totally dominated the race in spite of the very difficult conditions and of the tremendous pressure he was under. Superb job!
Heidfeld also had a great race and completed some great overtaking manoeuvres (like the one against Räikkönen and Kovalainen).
Barrichello once again showed his wet-weather prowress, helped by a flawless Ross Brawn strategy.
Massa.
Well he kept me entertained. :p
I think it's a 3-way tie, all the podium finishers drove superb races. :up:
Rubens! :up:
Winning from the front is one thing, 3rd from 16th in a crap car is priceless!
PS: Can we get a poll?!
1. LH - simply brilliant
1.b Rubens. great drive, even greater strategy
2. Heidfeld. ever the bridesmaid,but droive outstanding today and took full advantage of his opportunites
That is crap from you sir, he was the one who kept it continuously on the road, not even Hamilton managed to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
It's appalling how Hamilton fans can't be happy even when he drove a good race, they still feel the need to belittle the competition. :rolleyes:
Lewis - by a mile, he was awesome. He rolled the dice and stayed out on inters when he should've been in full wets.
Great call from Ross but Rubens had nothing to lose by going on full wets
Hamilton did a very good race but everything went his way today... I donīt know what happened after the first pitstop. I would have loved to see him fight against KR.
The driver of the race: RB... what he did in his honda is really impressive
itīs interesting how many british members of this forum see nothing great in RBīs result... they are only impressed by Ross Brawn... quite pathetic
IN the press conference Rubens said that it was his choice to go onto wets not Brawn's.Quote:
Originally Posted by yodasarmpit
Can't split Lewis and RB IMO, both drove very well and it shouldn't matter if Hamilton was expected to do well because I don't think anyone would predict that he'd win by 1 minute.
1st. Rubens + Ross gets the thumbs up from me
2nd. As a big fan of Heidfeld, he did what I expected of him, hence RB gets the nod
3rd. Lewis did more than I expected, but it's Lewis so he gets no more than 3rd
For me, Ross gives Rubens the chance to show what he can still do. It's no good having the tactics if your driver can't deliver, it's no good having the skill and car if your given duff tactics (looks at Massa and Kimi).Quote:
Originally Posted by eu
And you feel the need to belittle Hamilton at every available oppourtunity. Face it, Hamilton is a very good driver and did very well today, even in terrible conditions on inters. That little trip across the grass was a silly mistake but an acceptable one.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Which takes the greater skill; driving in the wet on wets, or driving in the wet on inters?
Thta said I still think Rubens was excellent, refer to my previous post for that :)
Barrichello undoubtedly the driver of the race in my opinion, Lewis a very good second. Barrichello drives a Honda and dragged it from nowhere to third place! Hamilton had the best wet weather car and kept it on the track (apart from a brief excursion) and all the tactics were spot on, but I'm looking for that little bit extra and it came from Rubinho.
The gap from Hamilton to Heidfeld made James Allen et al believe it was better than it was! Good drive all the same though - tricky conditions.
For once we agree! What were you expecting? Rubens is not British so he can't be best of the day, not even if he won.Quote:
Originally Posted by eu
These are the Lewy fanboys and we'll have to live with their level.
Well it was a team effort. Rubens made the first call and Ross and co would crunch some numbers and have more info on the weather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Jan Yeo
I'm wondering which is harder to drive:Quote:
Originally Posted by eu
A bad car on full wets in wet conditions or a good car on inters in wet conditions??? :confused:
And all us Lewis fans have to put up with abuse because he's British. If Rubens hadn't finished 3rd then you probably still wouldn't rate LH as driver of the day :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I just saw the press conference, and that makes Rubins drive even more impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Jan Yeo
I said Hamilton drove a good race, how is that belittling?! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Jan Yeo
Rubins has always been well loved over here in good old Blighty, so you are a little off the mark sonny Jim.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Exactly!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by yodasarmpit
I'm remembered you could hear the crowd roar from the TV just as he passed Kimi for the lead in 2003. I remember the last few laps the crowd were jumping up and down arms in the air.
I say again, which is worse: a bad car on full wets in wet conditions or a good car on inters in wet conditions?
You're less likely to aquaplane on full wets than inters. Rubens took the safe option. Lewis would look like an idiot had he fell off the track and lost the win on inters.
I think Nakajima deserves a mention, good drive from him despite spinning 2-3 times still finished in the points.
Rubens Barrichello had an exceedingly good race today. With the correct tyre call from Ross Brawn, Barrichello took full advantage of his tyres and might well have got second if it wasn't for his re-fuelling problem. Jenson Button might have been able to get 4th had he not gone off.
However my driver of the day is Lewis Hamilton. The McLaren driver was awesome on his intermediate tyres in those torrential conditions, at one point he was going seconds faster than anyone else on inters. He lapped all his championship rivals (Massa twice) and his team mate and he finish over a minute clear of his closest challenger (the superb Nick Heidfeld). Hamilton could not have done any better today.
for sure rubinho (Rubens) on 3rd place in a honda is very impressive, he drove very well and made the right choice... but the fact is, the driver of the day is hamilton, he was a LOT faster than the other drivers in the worst part of the race,
Barrichello. Never went off track and scored a podium with a very bad car which failed to get trough Q1.
Lewis drove very well too, despite his little off-track adventure and Quick Nick also drove well. Alonso showed a good spirit.
Rain is the great 'equaliser'. It levels the playing field. Lewis blew the field away with his drive today. I think the rest of the teams/drivers have to hope for a dry 2nd half of the season 'cause another wet race is going to be another 1 horse race again.
Rubens mentioned in the post-race press conference with words to the effect that he went off twice on his inlap, thus his decision to run full wets.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
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Originally Posted by wedge
Team effort and planning!!!and I would take a bad car with proper tires over inter or "semi-dry" on a really wet track, so hats off to lewis (although I am sure he will do a fine job congratulating himself without any help from any of us forum members or anyone else either.)
I couldn't possibly add anything to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by VkmSpouge
By the way, ioan, does the fact that I agree that Hamilton was the driver of the race, combined with the fact that I'm British, make me a 'Lewy fanboy'? Because no-one can just have an opinion on something without some sort of national or personal bias, can they...
Yes, he did, and he pulled off the move of the day. Great stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
He pulled off 2 moves of the day :eek: Solid drive :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
No, because he is stupid. That's my opinion about him. Maybe he'll get smarter when he'll grow up, but for now he lacks something between the ears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Jan Yeo
The top 3 were standouts for sure, but I was very impressed with Nakajima finishing 8th, great drive IMO.
Hopefully he really got over his qualifying problems. I was having enough of how exceptional Robert is and how poor Nick is in comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
I thought Nakajima had a good drive but he did have a spin and lost 7th place on the last lap which tempered how good I thought it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxu05
Nick Heidfeld also had a good race he also had the two best passes of the day. Outside of Glock and inside of Alonso and then a few laps later inside of both Raikkonen and Kovalainen. Great moves.
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Originally Posted by ioan
There is a valid point here, regarding McLaren fans. Now I am aware that it is wrong to generalize, however there is not another option. McLaren fans, never give another driver credit, unless he is British (yes it seems as though most McLaren fans are British). They always have an excuse, blame Ferrari and or the FIA/Max. In other words, Hamilton/McLaren fans are the worst sports. Maybe it comes from the extreme jealousy they had for the greatest of them all, Michael Schumacher and what he did in making Ferrari the greatest team ever.
any other day Rubens would have it for me, Nick also showed some flashes and good pace without mistakes, but i'd say Lewis for the times when he was seconds quicker than everyone else on the same tyres - for me it was one of those drives that made everyone else lok a little bit silly, Senna '93 donington, MS, Spain '97 spring to mind