BBC News - Lance Armstrong ends fight against doping charges
Given up fighting the doping accusations. But the US doping agency has now demanded his Tour de France titles are removed. It's yet to be seen if they will actually do it.
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BBC News - Lance Armstrong ends fight against doping charges
Given up fighting the doping accusations. But the US doping agency has now demanded his Tour de France titles are removed. It's yet to be seen if they will actually do it.
big fat donkey :mad: :(
Revisionist history
1999: Alex Zulle
2000: Jan Ullrich
2001: Jan Ullrich
2002: Joseba Beloki
2003: Jan Ullrich
2004: Andréas KLÖDEN
2005: Ivan Basso
2006: Oscar Pereiro Sio
2007: Alberto Contador
2008: Carlos Sastre
2009: Alberto Contador
2010: Any Schleck
2011: Cadel Evans
2012: Bradley Wiggins
Jan Ullrich was found guilty of doping. His results from 2005 onwards were nullified. Interesting that he is could now be awarded tour wins.
I'm not moral absolutist but this case is so murky it seems like the USADA are adopting a 'guilty until proven innocent' mentality... which I find reprehensible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
And Bjarne Riis who has admitted he was on drugs during his tour win, and yet his win still stands.
Revising history at this point is, well, pointless. Especially since it's almost certain that Armstrong did in fact dope, based on the fact that around that time everyone was doping! So if we assume that everyone was doping - Armstrong was still the worthy winner!
Yes, and they are declaring his TdF wins void - without any authority to do so. It's far from certain the Tour de France organisers will take this view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew
1999
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Alex Zülle (‘98 busted for EPO)
3. Fernando Escartín (Systematic team doping exposed in ‘04)
4. Laurent Dufaux (‘98 busted for EPO)
5. Ángel Casero (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
2000
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
4. Christophe Moraue (‘98 busted for EPO)
5. Roberto Heras (‘05 busted for EPO)
2001
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
4. Andrei Kivilev
5. Igor González de Galdeano (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
2002
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Raimondas Rumšas (Suspended in ‘03 for doping)
4. Santiago Botero (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
5. Igor González de Galdeano (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
2003
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Alexander Vinokourov (Suspended in ‘07 for CERA)
4. Tyler Hamilton (Suspended ‘04 for blood doping)
5. Haimar Zubeldia
2004
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Andreas Kloden (Named in doping case in ‘08)
3. Ivan Basso (Suspended in ‘07 for Operacion Puerto ties)
4. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
5. Jose Azevedo (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
2005
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Ivan Basso (Suspended in ‘07 for Operacion Puerto ties)
3. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
4. Fransico Mancebo (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
5. Alexander Vinokourov (Suspended in ‘07 for CERA)
One of the most drug tested sportsman alive. Never missed a test, NEVR FAILED A TEST.
Thats good enough for me.
The guy is my hero, and always will be.
The guy was given about 5% chance survival, from his testicular cancer, which had spread to his brain and lungs. Read his book to find out what chemo did to his body. To get back on a bike is something, to be the best in the worl, and win 7 tours is something else.
Steve
They can take away Lance Armstrong's 7 Tour victories but they can't take away his moon landing.