Health Care - A Right or a Privilege?

This is a simple question, but I know it is a difficult one for many to answer. Especially here in America, were President Obama's attempt at health care reform has been received with mixed opinions. Those who support health care reform believe that health care is too expensive and that health insurance companies tend to avoid meeting costs through exclusions, caps, and co-payments. Also, these supporters believe that the system, as a whole, doesn't provide coverage for everyone, and some of the supporters also support malpractice reform and medicare payment reform. But despite these reasons to support health care reform, it is clear that it is too polarizing of an issue that there isn't a clear-cut opinion by Americans, as a whole, on whether it is good or bad, although the recent midterm elections here in the U.S. seem to indicate that most Americans are against health care reform.

But I am curious want all of you think about health care, in regards to whether it is a human right or privilege. Personally, despite evolving mostly into a conservative-libertarian, I'm still on the left with this issue. I didn't fully like the reform that was ultimately enacted last March, but I've maintained my belief that health care is a human entitlement and that a reform towards universal health care is needed in order to contribute to protecting the wellness of American citizens.

Please give me all of your opinions on this issue.

No one has the right to anything. Everything has to be earned. Look after yourself, eat well and take out a medical insurance policy if you are concerned about your health later in life. I hate the way people want free healthcare at the cost of taxpayers as though it is their right, yet they are allowed to go and eat at McDonalds after a visit to the doctor. Pay for your own bloody McDonalds induced heart transplant.

Basic healthcare is a right in my opinion. Emergency care and rehabilitation.

Most other things are the responsibility of the individual.

The question of rights is irrelevant.

Insurance generally is most efficient when the insurance risk is spread over the largest number of insurable items. This holds true for motor cars, buildings, and even health care.
When insurance risk is spread over a broader population of items the per unit cost of insurance decreases; there is no broader population than the entire population.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

The question of rights is irrelevant.

Insurance generally is most efficient when the insurance risk is spread over the largest number of insurable items. This holds true for motor cars, buildings, and even health care.
When insurance risk is spread over a broader population of items the per unit cost of insurance decreases; there is no broader population than the entire population.

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Should we insure a nation of Ford Ka or Ford GT?

Perhaps complimentary 3rd party and option to personally upgrade?

Not this discussion again?

We all agree that we disagree until someone claims someone else is a Nazi. That is how these sort of threads end up.

Nazi.

Yeah, you know who I am talking about.


Besides this has all applicable principles have been discussed already here, just change it over to health care,
http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...d.php?t=140720

and I am against anything that might put money in psuedo-doc gueistein's pockets

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Originally Posted by markabilly

Besides this has all applicable principles have been discussed already here, just change it over to health care,
http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...d.php?t=140720

and I am against anything that might put money in psuedo-doc gueistein's pockets

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to which I must add to the oil rationing thread:

Gluestink say, " Nazi, no I will not call you a nazi, that would be too good for whoever you are, esp. you markabutbilly, but I will call you,

[quote="glauistean"] a total and absolute idiot.


your posts are bordering on the schizophrenic. You in fact may fall into the various subtypes.


You are a deluded self loathing person , unable to converse intelligently with anyone.

You then resort to name calling. Lest you believe I am calling you names as I write this , I am not.

By the way, are you a clean person? Do you wash, shave(if you are a man) ,brush your teeth? Do you fall into the blunt or flat areas of the disease.


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To which Easy adds, "Hey Gluestem, come over here a minute and close your eyes, I got you a big suprize"

nothing like a well mannered objective debate among "citizens"

okay now you can close the oil rationing thread and this one :D

Ya...not going there on this one....we had this argument last year, and it got ugly after a while....

Health care-- health, is the responsibility of the individual. If one gets sick, the one is responsible for preventing that.
Call it "health care" is a farce as it has nothing to with health.

Doctoring costs-- are too high, and the problems with insurance companies started when citizens started to scam the insurance companies
People abusing insurance policies created the monster they are now crying about.

The general cluster f--k we have now is the result of the government sticking its nose where it does not belong (with the exception of veteran care, who should have apolicy that would put to shame the golden egg, those inside the belt-way have.)

There are no God given rights, and the only rights U.S. citizens have are listed in a Constitution.