TRD3 Int'l GT Series Rd 4: Warsteiner 50K at Hockenheim

[tannat]

The GT circus finally makes it to Europe. Conditions at Hockenheim will provide something which hasn't happened in a forum championship in a very long time......



TRACK: Hockenheim
WEATHER: Rain :devil:


QUALIFYING: Qualify in free race mode under the appropriate condtions, corner cutting off, all other driving aids except pro-sim on, two wheels on track at all times. Feel free to submit q-times to the thread

RACE LENGTH: 18 LAPS
MAX TIRE HARDNESS: 0.20
AI DIFFICULTY: 50%

PLEASE SUBMIT FASTEST LAP AND OVERALL TIMES NO LATER THAN SUNDAY, JANUARY 6TH MIDNIGHT.

Happy New Year :D

Tannat

[tannat]

Entry List
#1----Vuko Snr------CT1-------TVR400R
#05---Vuko Jnr-------CT1------TVR400R
#7-----Jon Brown-----CT2-------Ultima GTR
#12----RobZee--------CT1------TVR 400R
#13----Tannat--------CT2-------Ultima GTR
#17----PiotrB---------CT1-------TVR 400R
#19----Adam Sloma---CT1-------TVR 400R
#33----harvick#1-----CT2-------Ultima GTR
#82----Johnny Shell---CT1-------Corvette C5R
#85----Will L----------CT1-------TVR 400R
#666---real_illusions---CT1-------TVR 400R
#888---hollydog954----CT1------Corvette C5R
#853---Pawprint-------CT1------TVR 400R
?????---BrentJackson---CT2------Mosler

[tannat]

Driver's Championship

1--RobZee------CT1-TVR 400R--------26
1--PiotrB--------CT1-TVR 400R-------26
3--PeterVuko----CT1-TVR 400R-------16
4--Hollydog954--CT1-CorvetteC5R----12*
5--JohnnyShell---CT1-CorvetteC5R----10
6--StevenVuko---CT1-TVR 400R-------10*
7--Harvick-------CT2-UltimaGTR--------6
8--Tannat-------CT2-UltimaGTR--------4*

*Indicates has missed one round


Manufacturer's

1-TVR-------30
2-Corvette---24
3-Ultima------18

[Peter Vuko]

Qualifying Update: Hockenheim
1. Vuko Snr TVR.......1m.15.73s

Had a quick session...sure I can improve on this...I used .20% tyres for qualifying....or are we allowed to have free set up tyres for practice????? Can you confirm please Tannat.

[tannat]

Qualifying Update: Hockenheim
1. Vuko Snr TVR.......1m.15.73s

Had a quick session...sure I can improve on this...I used .20% tyres for qualifying....or are we allowed to have free set up tyres for practice????? Can you confirm please Tannat.


Oh indeed-free setups for practice and qualifying, and this will not change fro the remainder of the season.......

[PiotrB]

I'd like to say that I love rain but on sim the car handles almost the same as on dry.

So tannat I don't need to send you my qualifying time because this time we drive on rain?

[RobZee]

Qualifying Update: Hockenheim

1. RobZee.. TVR.......1m.15.32
2. Vuko Snr TVR.......1m.15.73s

I think tyre wear will be a big issue this time. I have not pitted in the previous races, but I think I will have to here.

[tannat]

I'd like to say that I love rain but on sim the car handles almost the same as on dry.

So tannat I don't need to send you my qualifying time because this time we drive on rain?

QQulaifying time still apply, so please submit your wet qualifying times done in single race mode qualifying..

Thanks

[johnny shell]

I think tyre wear will be a big issue this time. I have not pitted in the previous races, but I think I will have to here.

bummer - pitting really cost a lot of time. I was hoping the rain would help tire wear...guess not.

hitting the curbs really kills the tires.... be sure not to touch them at all...it really helps

[Peter Vuko]

Qualifying Update: Hockenheim
1.Vuko Snr TVR.....1m14.84s
2.RobZee TVR.......1m.15.32s

Finding more speed....I'm sure we will have to pit this race....A.I cars will be a major problem here as they hog the race line!

[Peter Vuko]

Just realised I cheated for the above time....I had the track set to sunny instead of rain...sorry guys......I have improved my time slightly but I am still just behind RobZee....It proves that the cars are a little slower in the rain!

Qualifying Update:Hockenheim
1.RobZee TVR....1m.15.32s
2.Vuko Snr TVR..1m.15.37s

[Peter Vuko]

Qualifying Update: Hockenheim
1.Vuko Snr TVR.....1m14.57s
2.RobZee TVR.......1m.15.32s
3.Vuko Jnr TVR......1m.16.81s

This time it's not a mistake...I have found a good set up in the wet...I think I can go even quicker... young Vuko is struggling in the wet!!! Not many times up as yet!!! Times are due Sunday...I haven't had time for the race as yet...too much to do on holidays!!

[PiotrB]

Qualifying Update: Hockenheim
1.PiotrB...............1m13.84s
2.Vuko Snr TVR.....1m14.57s
3.RobZee TVR.......1m.15.32s
4.Vuko Jnr TVR......1m.16.81s

I'm approx. 1,5 second slower in rain.

[Pawprint]

Hey, if I can get time, I might try summin :)

[johnny shell]

Qualifying Update: Hockenheim
1.PiotrB...............1m13.84s
2.Vuko Snr TVR.....1m14.57s
3.RobZee TVR.......1m.15.32s
4.J Shell C5R........1m.16.45s
5.Vuko Jnr TVR......1m.16.81s

can anyone do it without stopping?

exactly how wide can I run on that last turn and tight can I cut the first turn? gotta keep 2 wheels inside the white line?

that is all. carry on! :D

[tannat]

exactly how wide can I run on that last turn and tight can I cut the first turn? gotta keep 2 wheels inside the white line?

that is all. carry on! :D

Bit of understeer in the vette, JS? :D

Rules are rules...

Take a look at the big picture, back off a bit, take 'legal' lines and see how much it hurts you, and whether or not it will severely affect your placing in the race...

[johnny shell]

I won't break the rules :(

I ran wide a few times & thought about giving myself a penality (most likely a stop-and-go), since I'm both the marshall and the driver, but I ended up not finishing that race anyway due to tires.

[harvick#1]

looks like Sunday will be a long race day for me, I'm trying to finish up my model and I have to work tonight, so today is shot, and Clemson plays N. Carolina tomorrow night, so I guess I'll be busy finding a setup early and running blind

[tannat]

I enjoyed your model gallery harvick :up:

You go into far more detail than me, but if I can I'll post a photo of a 1991 Lancia Delta Integrale (Biasion) that is close to completion...


Tannat

[tannat]

One time thus far (Robzee)

If you need an extension let me know...

[harvick#1]

I enjoyed your model gallery harvick :up:

You go into far more detail than me, but if I can I'll post a photo of a 1991 Lancia Delta Integrale (Biasion) that is close to completion...


Tannat

just wait for my next build, I'm making a super detailed 2007 Audi R10 :D

[harvick#1]

Qualifying Update: Hockenheim
1.PiotrB...............1m13.84s
2.Vuko Snr TVR.....1m14.57s
3.RobZee TVR.......1m.15.32s
4.J Shell C5R........1m.16.45s
5.Vuko Jnr TVR......1m.16.81s
6.harv#1.............1m.19.98s

just about to run my race

[Peter Vuko]

Qualifying Update: Hockenheim
1.PiotrB...............1m13.84s
2.Vuko Snr TVR.....1m14.57s
3.RobZee TVR.......1m.15.32s
4.Vuko Jnr TVR......1m.15.38s
5.J.Shell C5R.........1m.16.45s

[tannat]

just wait for my next build, I'm making a super detailed 2007 Audi R10 :D

i have to 'steal' time for my modeling (and sim gaming for that matter) as it is...

Nice work..

[hollydog954]

qual 1.14.82

[harvick#1]

ok, during practice runs, I am having trouble even getting to lap 9, will some be pitting twice with teh very soft Hardness, I was at 140% and still the wear was too quick

[johnny shell]

well, today would be a good day for a CT2 car to beat a CT1 car! I tell you that much!

I ran way off my qualifying pace. had fun though. just didn't push as hard as I should have I guess.

that rain must've spooked me. must've been listening to the F1 guys too much!

[tannat]

ok, during practice runs, I am having trouble even getting to lap 9, will some be pitting twice with teh very soft Hardness, I was at 140% and still the wear was too quick


Tire hardness was limited to .2 for the race Harvick...

Do you mean downforce at 140%?

[tannat]

Results tomorrow gang-apologies..

Feel free to resubmit if you like before midnight tonight...

By the way-do you guys want a week break between races, or races every week?

[harvick#1]

Tire hardness was limited to .2 for the race Harvick...

Do you mean downforce at 140%?

I used .20 and 150% (both F/R) for the race, barely even getting 9 laps out fo each set

[tannat]

I used .20 and 150% (both F/R) for the race, barely even getting 9 laps out fo each set


I thought that was what you meant. Thanks for the clarification :up:

[johnny shell]

I think your tire wear is pretty average harv

[tannat]

The rain made not so much difference in the qualifyign hierarchy. Piotr B again taking pole in the TVR. Good showing by Peter Vuko for outside pole followed by Hollydog in the Corvette.

In Category 2 Harvick again sweeps class pole from Tannat, who struggled with a reluctant Ultima for the entire weekend...... :(

1.PiotrB...........TVR.....CT1.....1m.13.84s
2.Vuko Snr .....TVR......CT1.....1m.14.57
3.hollydog.......C5R......CT1.....1m.14.82
3.RobZee .......TVR......CT1.....1m.15.32
4.J Shell........ .C5R......CT1.....1m.16.45
5.Vuko Jnr ......TVR......CT1.....1m.16.81
6.harv#1.........Ultima...CT2.....1m.19.98
7.Tannat.........Ultima...CT2.....1m.20.40

[johnny shell]

vuko jr had a 1:15.38

[tannat]

vuko jr had a 1:15.38

OOPS! :D

Update

1.PiotrB...........TVR.....CT1.....1m.13.84s
2.Vuko Snr .....TVR......CT1.....1m.14.57
3.hollydog.......C5R......CT1.....1m.14.82
4.RobZee .......TVR......CT1.....1m.15.32
5.Vuko Jnr ......TVR......CT1.....1m.15.38
6.J Shell........ .C5R......CT1.....1m.16.45
7.harv#1.........Ultima...CT2.....1m.19.98
8.Tannat.........Ultima...CT2.....1m.20.40

[tannat]

The rain at Hockenheim shuffled the finishing order mildly from Laguna Seca. Winning again was the TVR of PiotrB, finishing nearly 4 seconds ahead of Peter Vuko. RobZee takes third, and receives special mention for completing the race with no pit stops :up:

Hollydog takes 4th in the Corvette finishing just over 5 seconds ahead of the younger Vuko in a TVR.

Harvick showed Tannat the way home by 10 seconds in Category 2 in what was a troublesome weekend for Tannat ("The #$%^@ wouldn't turn in!!!!")


1--PiotrB---------TVR-------CT1---23:36.75---------1:13.84
2--PeterVuko-----TVR-------CT1---23:40.60---------1:15.80
3--RobZee-------TVR--------CT1---23:42.34--------1:16.50
4--Hollydog------Corvette---CT1---23:59.64---------1:16.10
5--StevenVuko---TVR-------CT1---24:04.52---------1:16.94
6--JShell---------Corvette---CT1---24:35.80--------1:18.79
7--Tannat-------Ultima------CT2---25:48.20---------1:22.19
8--Harvick-------Ultima------CT2---25:34.08---------1:20.87

[tannat]

Clear lead for PiotrB in the driver's championship, but not unassailable.

Driver's Championship


1--PiotrB--------CT1-TVR 400R--------36
2--RobZee------CT1-TVR 400R--------32
3--PeterVuko----CT1-TVR 400R-------24
4--Hollydog954--CT1-CorvetteC5R-----17*
5--JohnnyShell---CT1-CorvetteC5R----13
6--StevenVuko---CT1-TVR 400R-------14*
7--Harvick-------CT2-UltimaGTR--------8
8--Tannat-------CT2-UltimaGTR--------5*

*Indicates has missed one round


TVR appears to be the choice of champions... :)
(although Peter Vuko drove one to the title last year)

Manufacturer's

1-TVR-------40
2-Corvette---32
3-Ultima------24

***TRD3 GT IS TAKING A WEEK BREAK. NEXT ROUND DETAILS TO BE POSTED MONDAY, JANUARY 14************

[harvick#1]

Harvick showed Tannat the way home by 10 seconds in Category 2 in what was a troublesome weekend for Tannat ("The #$%^@ wouldn't turn in!!!!")



I had a great turn in, but very loose off, I was sometimes spinning the rears coming off the corners

[harvick#1]

race
1--PiotrB---------TVR-------CT1---23:36.75---------1:13.84
2--PeterVuko-----TVR-------CT1---23:40.60---------1:15.80
3--RobZee-------TVR--------CT1---23:42.34--------1:16.50
4--Hollydog------Corvette---CT1---23:59.64---------1:16.10
5--StevenVuko---TVR-------CT1---24:04.52---------1:16.94
6--JShell---------Corvette---CT1---24:35.80--------1:18.79
7--Harvick-------Ultima------CT2---25:34.08---------1:20.87
8--Tannat-------Ultima------CT2---25:48.20---------1:22.19

standings

1--PiotrB--------CT1-TVR 400R--------36
2--RobZee------CT1-TVR 400R--------32
3--PeterVuko----CT1-TVR 400R-------24
4--Hollydog954--CT1-CorvetteC5R-----17*
5--StevenVuko---CT1-TVR 400R-------14*
6--JohnnyShell---CT1-CorvetteC5R----13
7--Harvick-------CT2-UltimaGTR--------8
8--Tannat-------CT2-UltimaGTR--------5*


fixed :D

[tannat]

fixed :D


OOPS!

Thanks :up:

[PiotrB]

1--PiotrB---------TVR-------CT1---23:36.75---------1:13.84
My fastest race lap was: 1:14.92. 1:13.84 is my quali lap.


RobZee takes third, and receives special mention for completing the race with no pit stops :up:
Nice one RobZee but I think that you used 150% tyre profile because my 0.20 tyres with 50/50 profile were almost red after 9 laps (I made a pit stop once). And every contact with grass is deadly for tyres.

[RobZee]

I stayed off the grass and ripple strips to try to conserve my tyres and avoid a pitstop, but this strategy proved to be flawed as my lap times increased markedly from about lap 12.
Well done Piotr and PV!

[johnny shell]

My fastest race lap was: 1:14.92. 1:13.84 is my quali lap.

I would propose that tannat smoked the wacky tabackee before posting the results today :D

oh yeah, and I don't see how .20 tires could make it 18 laps either. I thought about trying but when I saw what they were like at 9 laps I didn't bother.

wish I would have tried though... considering I have a tendacy to finish last in class I need to try extreme strategies :laugh:

but having harv nipping at my heals every round keeps me somewhat in line

[Peter Vuko]

Another good win to Piotr...but I'm getting closer to him....I don't know how RobZee got through without a pit stop...I'm surprised the tyres didn't blow out...he must have driven very conservatively...but the pit stop did take up 35-40secs...