Talmacsi missing from 250 cc entry list??

[CaptainRaiden]

It was surprising or even shocking to see that the 2007 125 cc champion fails to make it to the 250 cc grid, while people like Faubel, Pesek and Pasini will be riding in the 250 cc class next year.

I'm not really aware of how it goes, but was it Gabor Talmacsi's own decision to remain in 125 cc for another year or maybe none of the 250 cc teams offered him a ride? He's a damn good rider as far as I have seen. :-/

[Roby44]

Maybe he wanted to defend his title :confused:

[Corny]

no, he wanted to stay in 125 himself..

[CaptainRaiden]

Yeah, but he is 26 years old now, and he still wants to remain in the 125 cc class after already winning it once? Doesn't he want to progress to the higher classes?

[Corny]

probably not?

[racer69]

Yeah, but he is 26 years old now, and he still wants to remain in the 125 cc class after already winning it once? Doesn't he want to progress to the higher classes?

Once upon a time it was quite common to have riders specialise in the smaller capacity classes and make their whole careers out of running 125cc or 250cc, with no intention of moving up to 500cc/MotoGP. Nothing wrong with that, infact made it all the more interesting i thought.

Of course it can't happen now with the silly age limit that was imposed on the 125cc class a few years back.

[tha_jackal]

The age limit is only imposed on riders who are new to the class.. So they only allow young riders to join but they can hang around for as long as they like.. I believe..

[axxexs]

The age limit is only imposed on riders who are new to the class.. So they only allow young riders to join but they can hang around for as long as they like.. I believe..

If you are a new rider or a wildcard its a 25 year limit. If you are in the series it´s maximum 28 year.

I do also miss the time when riders could do the racing they loved. Do miss the time of Ueda and Ui for an example. The young crazy riders against the old experienced once. There was more profiles of the 125cc class before. Now its more unknow young riders. Maybe its good for the bigger classes...

For Talmasci its the last year he can be riding in 125GP. Dont know the story about his number #14. But it could have been one dreem for him to be riding as a world champion whit that number?

[Roby44]

Doesn't really say anything about #14!! But a good read.


Gabor Talmacsi started riding motorcycles aged four in a mini-bike school run by his father. The Hungarian made his national 125cc championship debut ten years later, before moving up to the European Championship.

A wildcard ride at Brno in 2000, where he finished 20th, led to a full time ride with Racing Service in the 125cc World Championship the following year. With this Talmacsi became the first Hungarian in 20 years to ride a complete season in Grands Prix.

Talmacsi rode for a variety of Honda teams before moving to Aprilia machinery in 2003 with the Exalt Cycle outfit, with whom he took 14th in the overall standings.

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After a tough few seasons in the middle of the 125cc field, the ex-boxer made a dramatic improvement after moving to KTM for 2005. His first podium at the maiden Chinese Grand Prix was a sign of things to come that year, and Talmacsi took his debut victory two races later at Mugello. He followed the triumph up with two further wins in Holland and Qatar, eventually sealing third in the championship standings.

Talmacsi returned to Honda in 2006 with the Humangest satellite team, and by his now high standards he had a disappointing year. His best result was a third at Brno, the scene of his Grand Prix debut six years earlier.

His performances last season did, however, impress Jorge Martinez ‘Aspar’, who signed him up for a ride with his three rider 125cc squadron with a strong package. Talmacsi immediately justified his addition to the team, taking pole position at his first race for the Aprilia team in Qatar. He battled for victory with team-mate Hector Faubel in that race, in a sign of things to come for the course of the season. Five pole positions and three victories contributed to the Hungarian finally being able to lift the title at the last race of the year in Valencia, finishing second behind Faubel.

Some facts about Talmacsi's achievement

• Gabor Talmacsi is the first Hungarian ever to win a motorcycle Grand Prix world title in any class.

• Talmacsi has also had more Grand Prix wins than any other Hungarian rider with six victories all in the 125cc class. Janos Drapal is the only other Hungarian rider to have had Grand Prix success with four wins (1x 250cc, 3x 350cc).

• Talmacsi is the seventh Aprilia rider to win the 125cc title, joining: Alessandro Gramigni (1992), Kazuto Sakata (1994 and 1998), Valentino Rossi (1997), Roberto Locatelli (2000), Arnaud Vincent (2002) and Alvaro Bautista (2006).

• On his way to winning the title Gabor Talmacsi has had three victories, ten podium finishes, five pole positions and fourteen front row starts.

• Talmacsi has equalled the record of sixteen points scoring finishes in a single season previously achieved by Arnaud Vincent in 2002 and Alvaro Bautista last year.

Birth date: 28/05/1981 (26 years)
Birth place: Budapest, HUN
First Grand Prix: CZE – 200 - 125cc
First Pole Position: JPN – 2005 - 125cc
First Podium: CHN – 2005 - 125cc
First GP Victory: ITA – 2005 - 125cc
Grand Prix Starts: 113
Grand Prix Victories: 6
Podiums: 16
Pole Positions: 6
World Championship Win: 1 - 2007 – 125cc
Total Points 2007: 282


*all data correct at 4/11/2007


MotoGP Career

- 2000: 125cc World Championship, Honda – 1 start
- 2001: 125cc World Championship, 18th position, Honda - 16 starts, 34 points
- 2002: 125cc World Championship, 22nd position, Honda/Italjet - 15 starts, 20 points
- 2003: 125cc World Championship, 14th position, Aprilia - 16 starts, 70 points
- 2004: 125cc World Championship, 17th position, Malaguti - 16 starts, 43 points
- 2005: 125cc World Championship, 3rd position, KTM - 16 starts, 198 points
- 2006: 125cc World Championship, 7th position, Honda - 16 starts, 119 points
- 2007: 125cc World Championship, 1st position, Aprilia - 17 starts, 282 points

[Roby44]

According to his web page he will be in 250cc in 2009 on a factory RSA machine.

http://www.talma.hu/swf/index_eng.html

[Kreacher]

You're right. Aspar team offered him a contract which containes that he will be their racer for another 2 years: one more year in 125cc with an RSA Aprilia, then in 2009 they provide him a seat in 250cc.
He could be in 250cc next year, but he didn't get a good offer, so if he agreed one of them, he would have a worse ride for the next season. But this way we will have a fast bike for the next 2 years at aspar, however he must stay for an additional year in 125cc. I think he made the best decision.
And yes, he's already 26 years old, but he had a very hard way to success. I've just read his book, and believe me, it's a wonder that a Hungarian could reach that what he has already reached.

[ArmchairBikeFan]

I'm damned if Talma is a day younger than 40! :)
Hell of a rider, though.

[Roby44]

I'm damned if Talma is a day younger than 40! :)
Hell of a rider, though.


He does have that "aged" look about him doesn't he?? But he was born in 1981!! I have jeans that "young" :p :

[NinjaMaster]

If you are a new rider or a wildcard its a 25 year limit. If you are in the series it´s maximum 28 year.

I do also miss the time when riders could do the racing they loved. Do miss the time of Ueda and Ui for an example. The young crazy riders against the old experienced once. There was more profiles of the 125cc class before. Now its more unknow young riders. Maybe its good for the bigger classes...

For Talmasci its the last year he can be riding in 125GP. Dont know the story about his number #14. But it could have been one dreem for him to be riding as a world champion whit that number?
That's an excellent point. Guys like Angel Nieto and Jorge Martinez to name a couple, are legends of the sport in the tiddler classes. These sort of restrictions prevent the likes of these types of guys ever coming along again which is a shame. I really don't think that young riders were missing out before to need such a rule.

Good luck to Talma. Hopefully he can do the rare thing and defend his 125 title before stepping up to 250.