Unofficial pro-sim V8 test - Queensland

[johnny shell]

There is an unnofficial testing session going on right now at Queensland Raceway for the V8 cars in pro-sim mode.

If you want to get an idea of where you stand in preperation for the first-ever pro-sim V8 championship, run a few laps of the easy to learn circuit in time trial mode and post your times.

The only rule is mandatory 50% tire hardness, to better recreate race conditions.

The session will continue until the next round of the GT championship begins.


Off-season V8 pro-sim test: Queensland

1. J Shell.....1m3.59s

[Peter Vuko]

Sounds like a good idea Johnny! I'll have a go in a few days... I've got the final Rd of the WRC4 in Australia to complete by Friday...if I win the Rd I win the series...great fun!!! I hope we get a few drivers trying to race on pro-sim..its so rewarding when you get used to it...I wonder if Piotr B can produce good times in pro- sim....there's a challenge!!!!

[PiotrB]

its so rewarding when you get used to it...I wonder if Piotr B can produce good times in pro- sim....there's a challenge!!!!
Yes, we'll see :) . To be honest I have a experience with Pro-Sim because I play a lot online with players who also like Pro-Sim so I guess that's no difference to me if we play on Sim or Pro-Sim but driving on Pro-Sim is more skillful, interesting, realistic and fun. I looking forward to first Pro-Sim V8 Championship.

[johnny shell]

knocked a bit off. it was only a bit but it was very hard to come by!

Off-season V8 pro-sim test: Queensland

1. J Shell.....1m 3.51s

that first turn is a doosie.

[PiotrB]

I done several laps and my best time was: 1:02.59.

0.50 tyres compound, setup from Pukekohe.

[johnny shell]

:up:

Off-season V8 pro-sim test: Queensland

1. Piotr B....1m 2.59s
2. J Shell.....1m 3.51s

[CCFanatic]

I apologize for my absense from the F3 and DTM series early on. I just became too busy with school to race and after a few problems posting correct times, I just said too much for me for now. But I am hear to race a full V8 Supercars season. I bought a wheel and bought the PC game, and have yet to run these cars. Give me 20 minutes and I should have a time.

[Peter Vuko]

Off-season V8 pro-sim test: Queensland

1. Piotr B........1m 02.59s
2. Vuko Snr.....1m.03.42s
3. J Shell........1m 03.51s

Had a quick session...you need to take more time with set ups in pro-sim...I'm sure I could go quicker.....more concentration & pedal work required which makes for more of a challenge.....it will be interesting to see how many drivers we get...but we need a change....we have had two seasons of normal sim...we have driven all the Aussie & International tracks.....I think we need about 6-8 people at least to make it a goer in February.

[dcr22B]

Off-season V8 pro-sim test: Queensland

1. Piotr B........1m 02.59s
2. Vuko Snr.....1m.03.42s
3. J Shell........1m 03.51s
4. dcr22B........1m 05.55s

Will turn up for the first round but to be honest with you, I'm at a distinct disadvantage by not using a wheel so my commitment for the season will be dictated by my performance in Adelaide.

[johnny shell]

I apologize for my absense from the F3 and DTM series early on. I just became too busy with school to race and after a few problems posting correct times, I just said too much for me for now. But I am hear to race a full V8 Supercars season. I bought a wheel and bought the PC game, and have yet to run these cars. Give me 20 minutes and I should have a time.

good to have you back!

it's been 20 minutes.... :D

[CCFanatic]

good to have you back!

it's been 20 minutes.... :D

I ran into some problems. This is hard. I usually only ran the Williams cars and FBMW cars. Never a tin top.

But, I did manage a decent time. 1:03.77. Took about 70 laps, and 3 cans of Red Bull, as well as about 2 stops to the restroom. Turn one saw me do everything you could do wrong at that corner. I got on the brakes, lock them up, and slide to the wall, undercut the corner and spin out. Spin out driver a perfect line. Anything that could be done wrong at that corner I did. Rest of the track was not an issue for me. The first hairpin was tough, but only managed a few spins.

I am glad I can race again. This time with a seat, wheel, all on the PC.

[real_illusions]

I'll be using a controller..cant afford a wheel. Need alot of other more important things!

Hopefully i'll be able to test soon. Might get a chance tonight or tomorow night.

I'd like to suggest 2 ch'ships. Well..3 actually. The main one, where the points are normal. Then divide up in 2 classes, ones with the wheels, and the others with the controllers. So us poor ickle ones on the controllers still have some motivation to compete ;)

:)

[Peter Vuko]

Off-season V8 pro-sim test: Queensland

1. Vuko Snr.........1m.02.46s
2. Piotr B............1m.02.59s
3. J Shell............1m 03.51s
4. CC Fantastic...1m.03.77s
5. dcr22B...........1m 05.55s

Good to see such interest....I think we should help each other in these trials to get a better grip on pro-sim...a big discovery I made was setting the BRAKE/BIAS very much to the front...in time trial I used 20/80..this was the biggest factor in getting me into the 02's..I also used very low DOWNFORCE..50/50....& I found a softer SUSPENSION worked better on this track........I'm starting to really enjoy pro-sim.....I know that Vuko Jnr, BobZee,Hollydog & even Muz are keen to try a pro-sim comp..could be a very competitive series...I think the idea of an "A" & "B" division could be an idea we look into......we will run some more trials until Feb...to maybe help sort out the two divisions..to get an idea of where people are with speed....so get involved in these trials people!

[dcr22B]

I really like the idea of the Pro-sim competition and the breakdown that real_illusions has suggested, I'd be more prepared to give a firmer commitment knowing that I could compare my times to similarly equipped racers.

[PiotrB]

With improved setup.


Off-season V8 pro-sim test: Queensland

1. Piotr B............1m.02.18s
2. Vuko Snr.........1m.02.46s
3. J Shell............1m 03.51s
4. CC Fantastic...1m.03.77s
5. dcr22B...........1m 05.55s

[Peter Vuko]

Hey Piotr , can you give us some tips on your set ups in pro-sim....I gave people some of my findings & set ups.....it will make for a better comp...& people will enjoy pro-slm more if they learn to set up their cars better.

[Peter Vuko]

Off-season V8 pro-sim test: Queensland

1. Piotr B............1m.02.18s
Vuko Snr............1m.02.18s
3. J Shell............1m 03.51s
4. CC Fantastic...1m.03.77s
5. dcr22B...........1m 05.55s

You can't get closer than this!!!
Had a go at a race on 110% A.I.......to qualify pole you need a 1.02.38.....to get into the top ten you have to be in the low 04's...the racing was brilliant...far better than normal sim.... very challenging

[CCFanatic]

I ran about 100 laps today and dropped about a half a second.

1:03.33

[Peter Vuko]

Off-season V8 pro-sim test: Queensland

1. Piotr B............1m.02.18s
Vuko Snr............1m.02.18s
3. CC Fantastic....1m 03.33s
4. J.Shell.............1m.03.51s
5. dcr22B...........1m 05.55s

TRIAL OFF SEASON PRO-SIM RACE-Queensland Rcwy:

If interested try a race...post your times on the thread....you have until Wednesday evening..thats two days.

RACE DETAILS:
* 3 laps *A.I...custom 110% *Free Set Ups *Start from the Front *Corner Cutting & Dangerous Driving OFF * PRO- SIM handling ON

[johnny shell]

looks good - hope I can make it through that 1st turn 3 tiimes in a row! :D

[johnny shell]

so does any one else have trouble with that 1st turn?

didn't get to practice tonight thanks to you brits....

wife wanted to watch love actually and we had to keep rewinding it because you all talk to fast & funny!

h e r e i n k e n t u c k y

w e t a l k a l o t s l o w e r t h a n y a ' l l

[Peter Vuko]

You have to throttle off early & squeeze the pedal gently......had a go & posted a respectable 3m.17.65.......just beating home the Ford of Bargwanna.....only made one little error on last lap...1st lap...1.08.8....2nd lap..1.03.6.....3rd lap...1.05.2...I can improve that last lap!!!

[dcr22B]

I did a 3 lap race this morning;

Lap One 1m13.08s
Lap Two 1m06.88s
Lap Three 1.11.69s
Overall Time 3m31.65s

On the final lap, I got spun around coming out of turn 5 and dropped a good 3-4 seconds. Will work on a bit more set-up during the day and have another blast.

[johnny shell]

best I was able to do was get 2nd in the race. and that was hard fought!

1:05.77 was my fast lap, 3:22.60 was my OA.

[PiotrB]

I did 1:02.18 with this setup:

Downforce - 50/75 (front/rear)
Transmission - 0.22/0.32/0.42/0.52/0.62/0.72
Anti-Roll - 1.00/1.00
Tyres - 0.50 compound, 50/50 profile
Brake Bias - 10/90 (rear/front)
Ride Height - 0.00/0.00
Suspension Strangth - 0.00/0.00
Suspension Damping - 0.50/0.50
Toe & Camber - default

[Peter Vuko]

Thanks Piotr.....very similar to my set up....the Brake Bias to the front is very important....the softer suspension prevents too much wheelspin out of corners...I also use a hard Anti - Roll.....I used +4.0 Fr..+2.0 Rear negative camber...creates better turn in....I hope these helpful hints can improve your times!

[PiotrB]

Thx Peter ! (BTW: Peter means Piotr in Polish) I try your camber setup.

[dcr22B]

I'm down to a 3m23.19s with a best lap of 1m04.93s

Starting to enjoy it now.

[RobZee]

Slowly coming to grips with the pro - sim.
3.17.62 for the 3 laps, fastest lap was 1.03.49

Will need to practice my starts i think :eek:

[real_illusions]

This pro-sim certainly is different. Its alot like driving a real car on a real race track.

You need to get all of your braking before the corner. Brake into the corner and the cars going to spin out and crash, and you'll burn to death within a matter of seconds..(well, maybe not that bad but you get the general idea ;) ).

My fastest single lap was a 1:05.50

That was copying Priotr's setup, except with more downforce.

:)

[Peter Vuko]

Bettered my 3 lap time by a few tenths....but every tenth counts in pro-sim....did a 3m.17.41.....2nd & final lap were both in the 03's but my 1st lap was a bit down on last time....
3 LAP TIMES:
1.Vuko Snr...3m.17.41
2.BobZee.....3m.17.62
3.J.Shell.......3m.22.60
4.dcr22B......3m.23.19
I've actually been driving the Beta Electric Ford....I might change to Ford for this years series...they have offered me good money....keep the 3 lap times coming in..for practice!! I will put up a different track next week after the GT race.

[dcr22B]

I'm really starting to get the hang of this, I'm now down to a 3m 22.10s with a best lap of 1m04.20s

Funnily enough, despite my scepticism about the the Pro-sim set-up, I'm closer to the top guys than I was in normal sim (now if only I had a steering wheel, could I be even closer??).

[dcr22B]

Speaking of wheels, I think I might get myself a Logitech G25 for my 30th at the end of the month, I'm buying a PS3 in Hong Kong when I'm on my honeymoon!

[PiotrB]

now if only I had a steering wheel, could I be even closer??.
Yes, but you need some time to practice. I don't think that my time is possible
when you play on controller.

[PiotrB]

After the great battle with other Holden: 3:16.50 with fastest lap: 1:03.52. It's really hard to overtake AI cars here because they have faster cars ! I try next time with qualifying.

Free tyres for race or mandatory 0.50 compound?

3 LAP TIMES:
1.PiotrB.......3m.16.50
2.Vuko Snr...3m.17.41
3.BobZee.....3m.17.62
4.J.Shell.......3m.22.60
5.dcr22B......3m.23.19

[dcr22B]

Yes, but you need some time to practice. I don't think that my time is possible
when you play on controller.

I agree Piotr, I'm well and truly on the edge with that time I posted this morning but I was using my own set-ups. I'll go and try your set-up this evening and see does it make any improvement.

The main reason that I'll be buying the wheel is for my PS3 but if it improves my times on the PS2, I'll be well chuffed with that as well.

[dcr22B]

3 LAP TIMES:
1.PiotrB.......3m.16.50
2.Vuko Snr...3m.17.41
3.BobZee.....3m.17.62
4.dcr22B......3m.22.10
5.J.Shell.......3m.22.60

[johnny shell]

free tires for race

thanks for sharing your set up info guys :D

seems the key for that first corner for me is to let off the throttle early, like peter said, then reall feather it and hold is gently steady through the corner.

can anyone take that first turn flat out?

me thinks I'll give the 3 lapper another go :up:

[real_illusions]

the first turn isn't flat out..but the next right hander is..even on a controller. Although you have to take the right line. Start too wide, and you'll run wide, crash and then burn to death again

:)

[Peter Vuko]

3 LAP TIMES:
1.Vuko Snr...3m.16.25
2.PiotrB.......3m.16.50
3.BobZee.....3m.17.62
4.dcr22B......3m.22.10
5.J.Shell.......3m.22.60

Shaved off over a second over the 3 laps...We are all getting quicker...throttle work is so important in pro-sim....when you get it right it is very rewarding!

[dcr22B]

Just bought a Logitech G25 from Ebay so hopefully, it might give me some more pace in pro-sim!

[PiotrB]

Just bought a Logitech G25 from Ebay so hopefully, it might give me some more pace in pro-sim!
Playing in ToCA RD3 on wheel is awesome ! You should be a lot faster especially on Pro-Sim. I have Logitech DFP but based on what I saw G25 is better in every aspect.

[RobZee]

3 LAP TIMES:
1.Vuko Snr...3m.16.25
2.BobZee.....3m.16.40 (FL:1.03.45)
3.PiotrB.......3m.16.50
4.dcr22B......3m.22.10
5.J.Shell.......3m.22.60

Still not happy with my starts, practice needed

[dcr22B]

Playing in ToCA RD3 on wheel is awesome ! You should be a lot faster especially on Pro-Sim. I have Logitech DFP but based on what I saw G25 is better in every aspect.

Thanks Piotr, is it hard to adjust to a wheel after so long using a controller?

[PiotrB]

Thanks Piotr, is it hard to adjust to a wheel after so long using a controller?
Hard to say. Someone will adopt quickly when other person will struggle for a long time. I hope you'll adopt quickly I give us run for money :) .

[PiotrB]

My new time with 0.00 tyres compound and qualifying.

3 LAP TIMES:
1.PiotrB.......3m15.05 (FL: 1:03.31)
2.Vuko Snr...3m.16.25
3.BobZee.....3m.16.40 (FL:1.03.45)
4.dcr22B......3m.22.10
5.J.Shell.......3m.22.60


Still not happy with my starts, practice needed
I think that it is impossible to start that fast like AI cars.

[CCFanatic]

Great race. If it was not for that Bargwana I'd have won easy.

Lap 1: 1:10.22
Lap 2: 1:03.87
Lap 3: 1:03.23

3:17.32 Overall Time. Was just short on the second lap of making turn one at full throttle. Had to let off about midway through the corner.


After the first lap, I was eight because of the starts the AI cars had. But going into the hairpin they brake so early that you can get around them.

[CCFanatic]

I just notice this is unoffical. If I'd known that before running these races, I'd not have spent hours running this absoluty boring race course, I cars that drive like a tractor.

[Peter Vuko]

3 LAP TIMES:
1.PiotrB............3m15.05
2.Vuko Snr.......3m.16.25
3.BobZee.........3m.16.40
4.CC Fanastic...3m.17.32
5.dcr22B..........3m.22.10
6.J.Shell...........3m.22.60

Good competition guys...I will announce the next practice track on Monday..so you have until then to keep the 3 lap times rolling in

[tannat]

Hey Johnny...

The 2007 Queensland round of the V8s is on SPEED channel today at 11am eastern ;)

[johnny shell]

ahhh sweet!!!

I caught the V8s at Bathurst in the rain earlier in the week. looked just like one of our races with all the slippin' & slidin'!

saw DTMs at Eurospeedway too... Speed must show taped races in the winter to fill time.