Subaru S14 debut

[bt52b]

In an interview at the RoC Petter said they hoped to run the S14 on Round 5 in Jordan.

Isn't the GpN due to debut in Jordan too?

[Micke_VOC]

Isn't the GpN due to debut in Jordan too?

i have heard that Subaru Sweden should use the new Group N here in sweden from Swedish rally...

[Karbonyl]

N14 should be present already at Monte.

[WRXedUSA]

i have heard that Subaru Sweden should use the new Group N here in sweden from Swedish rally...

Yep. Toshi Arai said that they will use the Swedish Rally to debut the car as the event is relatively easy on the cars and will provide a good test base.

[koko0703]

Gr.N car is already being tested, but I've never heard of their new WRCar being tested yet. I was expecting them to debut the new car much later in the season but I'll take it if they want to bring a new car in 5th round. Even if the new car turned out to be cr*p due to lack of testing, it won't make much difference from the result, which the current car would achieve.

[Tom206wrc]

i have heard that Subaru Sweden should use the new Group N here in sweden from Swedish rally...



Driver Ramona Karlsson ??? :D

Along with miss Hermansson(Mitsu Lancer GrN), great swedish lady "cup" ;)

[pucky54]

Is Jennie-Lee doing PWRC next year?

[Micke_VOC]

Driver Ramona Karlsson ??? :D

Along with miss Hermansson(Mitsu Lancer GrN), great swedish lady "cup" ;)

Ramona is one of the drivers , the other is Oscar Svedlund and Hasse Gustafsson

Ramona has been really fast in 2wd and have done all swedish championship rallies in 2007 in a old subaru n4. ( She was zero car in all)


Is Jennie-Lee doing PWRC next year?
I dont think so, she have not sponsors to do swedish champ, so PWRC it far away i think,

[Lalo]

N14 should be present already at Monte.

It should be better on round 3 or 4. This year Subaru MUST SHINE! It's been many rallyes without a single win, not mentioning a championship. They should have time to develope an astonoshing car and fight for the championship as soon as possible, but I doubt that will happend right from Monte.

[SubaruNorway]

It should be better on round 3 or 4. This year Subaru MUST SHINE! It's been many rallyes without a single win, not mentioning a championship. They should have time to develope an astonoshing car and fight for the championship as soon as possible, but I doubt that will happend right from Monte.

? Toshi won PWRC this year though

[leno]

It should be better on round 3 or 4. This year Subaru MUST SHINE! It's been many rallyes without a single win, not mentioning a championship. They should have time to develope an astonoshing car and fight for the championship as soon as possible, but I doubt that will happend right from Monte.

Exactly

[LeonBrooke]

They've been developing the car all throughout the year, haven't they? Surely they've got a complete car by now. It may not be competetitive in its current form, much less officially homologated, but surely it'd be ready to test...

[Viking]

SWRT off-season testing

http://www.swrt.com/news/viewarticle.html?id=1388

[c4]

Car running at MIRA this week for systems check, David Maslen driving. Want to rack up 100 miles before Xmas. Delays installing gearbox led to test being put back as was meant to run after GB.Debut may not be until Finland.Monte tests for existing car Jan 5-8.Source MN

[Glee]

The new Subaru is set to run its first race in Greece.
At the factory in England the test has just begun.

The article: http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=191520 also states that the car is brand new, and not an evolution of an old car.

Somewhat wrongly the article says that “since Subaru did enter rally in 1991 has all cars witch is introduced since that has been based on the Legacy witch was introduced in 1991”….

[SubaruNorway]

The new Subaru is set to run its first race in Greece.
At the factory in England the test has just begun.

The article: http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=191520 also states that the car is brand new, and not an evolution of an old car.

Somewhat wrongly the article says that “since Subaru did enter rally in 1991 has all cars witch is introduced since that has been based on the Legacy witch was introduced in 1991”….

Not realy correct no, but the Impreza until 2001 has a very similar suspension and layout almost everything can be used on one car ore the other.

[passion for rally]

I hear that they may actually be introducing it 2 rallies earlier that Finland which must make it the end of May time.....they must be mad if you ask me that or the commercial people have pulled some strings.
If they are only running at MIRA that gives a few months to do all your other testing (gravel, tarmac etc) before they will have to get orders in for rally bits!
They clearly haven't learnt that doing all your testing on rallies (see S12b for an example of this) is a bit much as (generally) you are either slow, breaking bits or slow and breaking bits...hardly good PR for Subaru!
i really hope I am proven wrong on this as I think another season of mediocrity will result in Subaru pulling the plug and potentially the end of WRC as we know it as what would Ford and Citroen have to gain fighting it out between them selves?
I'm interested to hear what everyone else thinks about it all.

[c4]

Debut will be announced this month, Richard Taylor believes can fight for wins this season.
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/wrc/news/158366-0/subaru_new_car_will_put_us_back_in_mix.html

[HaCo]

Well, I really hope Subaru will be up on the pace again! There commitment should be rewarded and it would be awesome to see 3 teams battling for first instead of just 2!

[koko0703]

Debut will be announced this month, Richard Taylor believes can fight for wins this season.
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/wrc/news/158366-0/subaru_new_car_will_put_us_back_in_mix.html

Errr..... they haven't even tested their new car. That means the debut of the car isn't anywhere near. I hope they'll be back in the fight for a rally win in the later half of the season if not for the championship.

[c4]

Paul Howarth optimistic about new car:
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/wrc/news/158375-0/qa_paul_howarth_subaru_-_exclusive.html

[Buzz Lightyear]

Paul Howarth optimistic about new car:
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/wrc/news/158375-0/qa_paul_howarth_subaru_-_exclusive.html

crash dot net hve no shame in regurgitating old material. thats pre-rally gb, when that car has not even turned a wheel.

[c4]

S14 ran at MIRA for 3 days in December driven by David Maslam and test manager Tom Hunt. Clocked up several hundred kms and Richard Taylor felt went very well. Testing resumed at MIRA this week. Source MN

[Simmi]

Autosport says today that Markko Martin has also been in the car. They say that Finland is the target for the debut which makes sense really after the summer break.

I wonder if Petter was stoned when he announced he would be driving the car by April in Jordan?

[Brother John]

We just have to wait till the car is ready! :D
Ho want to see a car that make a mess to attain to the finish? :rolleyes:

[SubaruNorway]

Autosport says today that Markko Martin has also been in the car. They say that Finland is the target for the debut which makes sense really after the summer break.

I wonder if Petter was stoned when he announced he would be driving the car by April in Jordan?


Said on ROC that he would get it for Acropolis in may

[bt52b]

Autosport last week said Subaru don't know where Petter got his debut dates from :confused:

[Gard]

Autosport last week said Subaru don't know where Petter got his debut dates from :confused:
:D I guess Petter and Prodrive does not agree on the progress plan for the S14. Since the 2008 championship is already lost. He will try pushing them for an earlier debut. But testing in Acropolis is much more expensive than in Banbury. Testing in real competition is probably the best, but far more expensive.

[Magnus]

Some interesting articles here and an interview with Petter here:
http://www.vf.se/VF-Sok/Sok.aspx
If you understand swedish...

[leno]

Some interesting articles here and an interview with Petter here:
http://www.vf.se/VF-Sok/Sok.aspx
If you understand swedish...


Can someone please make summary in english

[jparker]

I can't imagine SWRT officially committing to debut date. From what I've read, the new car just got on the road and Markko is yet to start testing.
I guess it will all depend on what the testing results are.

[leno]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64738

david richards seems so optimistic about new car

[MJW]

Here is a link to stohl racing about the N14 - looks to be a good handling car.
http://www.stohl-racing.com/events.php?lang=E

[MJW]

sorry wrong thread I thought this was the Group N thread, but I am currently suffering from the flu so please excuse me.