Race of Champions !

[pino]

Here are the Team :

France: Sebastien Bourdais / Yvan Müller

England: Jenson Button / Andy Priaulx

Germany: Michael Schumacher / Sebastian Vettel

Finland: Heikki Kovalainen / Marcus Grönholm

Norway: Petter Solberg / Henning Solberg

Scotland: David Coulthard / Alister McRae

Scandinavia: Tom Kristensen / Mattias Ekström

USA: Jimmie Johnson / Travis Pastrana


Anyone will watch it ? :D

[Sturla]

Is there any place to watch it live?

I think US, Norway and Scandinavia has the strongest lineup :)

[pino]

I believe Eurosport will send it "live" but I am not sure :)

[GridGirl]

My heart tells me to support England but my head tells me that Finland or Germany will win it.

I'm hoping it won't be too cold, I start to shiver just thinking about it. The last weather forecasts I looked at said it would be zero degrees all day with no cloud cover so it could make for some interesting track conditions.

[Tom206wrc]

Interesting the idea to take also S2000 cars on that race ;)

[sal]

I believe Sky Sports are a "partner" so it may not be available for non subscribers certainly in the UK...

[pettersolberg29]

Sorry to sound so un-patriotic but I'm going to Wembley on Sunday with my giant Norway flag, supporting the Solbergs!

And GridGirl, I'm sure that this ROC is the first undercover race, as in the roof will be closed so it shouldn't be too cold and the track will be fine. Correct me if I'm wrong though!

[Tomi]

France, England, Germany and Scandinavia looks quite strong this year.

[TMorel]

damn damn damn damn
My plans just all fell apart so I won't be able to make it now :(

I'll be here waving my German and Scottish flags in support of two of my favourite drivers :)

[Simmi]

Sorry to sound so un-patriotic but I'm going to Wembley on Sunday with my giant Norway flag, supporting the Solbergs!

And GridGirl, I'm sure that this ROC is the first undercover race, as in the roof will be closed so it shouldn't be too cold and the track will be fine. Correct me if I'm wrong though!

Correct me if I'm wrong but I dont think the new Wembley has a roof on it.

On the website it looks like it will be streamed on the Eurosport website. I couldnt find any info about this does anyone know?

http://www.raceofchampions.com/tv_schedule,9.html

I was hoping to watch it but it partly clashes with my beloved Manchester United!

[GridGirl]

Sorry to sound so un-patriotic but I'm going to Wembley on Sunday with my giant Norway flag, supporting the Solbergs!

And GridGirl, I'm sure that this ROC is the first undercover race, as in the roof will be closed so it shouldn't be too cold and the track will be fine. Correct me if I'm wrong though!

Unless its about 35 degrees I'm always cold. :p

I'm hoping they don't rip us off for food and drink but I'm sure I'll end up paying £7 for a disgusting burger somewhere along the lines.

[SanjayKumar]

I think the US, Scandinavia, and Germany have promising lineups for the title...Go USA!

I just wish instead of Jimmie Johnson they had someone like Scott Pruett.

[SteveA]

Unless its about 35 degrees I'm always cold.

Oh, it'll be at least 35 degrees (Fahrenheit!)

[SubaruNorway]

1 Norway
2 Finland
3 USA - if Johnson don't race :s pinhead:

Pastrana as champion

[pettersolberg29]

1 Norway
2 Finland
3 USA - if Johnson don't race :s pinhead:

Pastrana as champion

An unbiased view there!!! :)

But I have to agree that Norway and Finland are probably the best two teams there, followed by Germany.

I'm really looking forward to the ROC - my friends's dad has got a Paddock Pass, and is taking me in because he knows what a massive PETTER FAN I am!!!

[SteveA]

This should be of interest to those thinking of taking serious camera gear to Wembley...

http://www.motorsportforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=396850&postcount=30

[Wilderness]

Since when Finland and Norway got kicked out of Scandinavia?

[VFTS]

Finland have never been in Scandinavia.

Scandinavian countries: Norway, Sweden and Denmark
Nordic countries: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Iceland.

[Exhausted]

How come Sebastian Loeb isn't coming?

If only they could loose those silly ROC cars, did anybody here ever enjoy them?

[SubaruNorway]

How come Sebastian Loeb isn't coming?

If only they could loose those silly ROC cars, did anybody here ever enjoy them?

Don't think those are to bad as they actualy go sideways, i think the "supercars" are the least entertaining as i think the drivers are to scared of writing them off :D

[Fleur]

Norway have a strong team, and also germany and scotland.

[pino]

poll added and I voted Scandinavia :D

[F1boat]

I think that Scandinavia will win it. Ekstrom is very strong in this race. Germany and Finland also look promising, and I wouldn't underestimate any of the other teams.

[Juppe]

I may be patriotic, but I think Finland will take it.

The same team has won it before and they are even better now.

I'll never forget that Heikki beat Michael on his way to the top previously and Sebastian Loeb in a WRC car!

[Zico]

Between Finland, Norway and Scandinavia I reckon.. but its a fine line between success and failure due to the penalty system.
I voted Finland as the line-up looks very strong... and I'd love to see Marcus finish his last WRC year on a high.

[grugsticles]

Im not up with how the Race Of Champions is run and organised, but is there a reason why Australia doesnt have an entry?
Im sure Mark Webber and Chris Atkinson would put on a decent showing.

[DazzlaF1]

Me thinks it'll be either Norway or Finland who'll win it, but being patriotic i'd love to see England do it

[pino]

Here's TV coverage :

http://www.raceofchampions.com/tv_schedule,9.html

[pentti]

Here's TV coverage :

http://www.raceofchampions.com/tv_schedule,9.htmlSo UK is the only country to show live the whole thing.Important reason for me to live in in UK.A lot of motorsport.

[pentti]

I think the US, Scandinavia, and Germany have promising lineups for the title...Go USA!

I just wish instead of Jimmie Johnson they had someone like Scott Pruett.What have you get against Jimmie? He comes from off-road backround and beat every body few years ago in ROC. Scott Pruett! He could not beat even Montoya.

[GridGirl]

I doubt many UK viewers will actually watch RoC. Manchester United play Liverpool and Arsenal take on Chelsea tomorrow, both those matches will get much more tv viewers than RoC will.

[Tomi]

So UK is the only country to show live the whole thing.Important reason for me to live in in UK.A lot of motorsport.

and finland shows it too on mtv3 max.

[pino]

I doubt many UK viewers will actually watch RoC. Manchester United play Liverpool and Arsenal take on Chelsea tomorrow, both those matches will get much more tv viewers than RoC will.

If I were living in UK, I know what I would watch ;)

[Simmi]

I doubt many UK viewers will actually watch RoC. Manchester United play Liverpool and Arsenal take on Chelsea tomorrow, both those matches will get much more tv viewers than RoC will.

Huge amounts of channel flicking will take place in my house. I think it is nice Sky Sports are taking a bit more of an interest in motorsport at the moment with A1 GP, IRL and now the ROC.

[pino]

Huge amounts of channel flicking will take place in my house. I think it is nice Sky Sports are taking a bit more of an interest in motorsport at the moment with A1 GP, IRL and now the ROC.

How about an invitation ? I can bring a good pizza and a great ital wine :p :

[Simmi]

How about an invitation ? I can bring a good pizza and a great ital wine :p :

Pino my friend if you can get to West Yorkshire, England for lunchtime tomorrow then you are more then welcome to join me!

[pino]

Pino my friend if you can get to West Yorkshire, England for lunchtime tomorrow then you are more then welcome to join me!

Was joking but will consider the offer next year...thanks anyway :D

[Simmi]

It looks like Henning is having fun:

http://www.vgb.no/6339

[NoahsGirl]

I can't wait to watch this on Sky tomorrow - will be supporting Scotland and France ;)

[SanjayKumar]

What have you get against Jimmie? He comes from off-road backround and beat every body few years ago in ROC. Scott Pruett! He could not beat even Montoya.

He's unbelievably talented and I have respect for him and his skills, but I want to see a driver changeup to see how they do too...and Pruett did not beat Montoya because Montoya hit him to cheat to the victory.

[Simmi]

He's unbelievably talented and I have respect for him and his skills, but I want to see a driver changeup to see how they do too...and Pruett did not beat Montoya because Montoya hit him to cheat to the victory.

You dont think Montoya would have overtaken him before the end?

[SanjayKumar]

You dont think Montoya would have overtaken him before the end?

No. Montoya was doing really well but Pruett was holding his own and while JPM is obviously a very talented driver, but so is Scott...I think he would have taken it.

[RS]

Does anyone know if this is going to be on tv in the UK at all not on Sky Sports. I don't have it and it doesn't appear to be on Eurosport.

[J4MIE]

Couple of photos:

http://www.ukrallying.com/uploads/AudiMadGeoff/2007-12-16_130358_roc3.jpg

http://www.ukrallying.com/uploads/AudiMadGeoff/2007-12-16_130420_roc2.jpg

And here is Matt Wilson in an 07 Focus....

http://www.ukrallying.com/uploads/AudiMadGeoff/2007-12-16_142237_matt2.jpg

http://www.ukrallying.com/uploads/AudiMadGeoff/2007-12-16_142304_matt3.jpg

http://www.ukrallying.com/uploads/AudiMadGeoff/2007-12-16_142337_matt4.jpg

[Magnus]

bit ot, but reading hennings blog and looking at his pics gives the impression that he certainly has the time of his life! It´s almost as he considers himself as a tourist in the wrc-circus. He seems to be a really nice and laid back guy henning, hope he will do even better in next years wrc!

[SteveA]

Does anyone know if this is going to be on tv in the UK at all not on Sky Sports. I don't have it and it doesn't appear to be on Eurosport.

I think Eurosport will be showing highlights at a later date. Sky Sports is your only option for live coverage.

[SubaruNorway]

http://www.raceofchampions.com/results,24.html

[SubaruNorway]

Neil Cole interviewing for eurosport there to

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=1929371&ch=1929371&src=ukeurosport

[SubaruNorway]

haha mr ferrari not happy with the S2000

[SubaruNorway]

Haha Grönholm beaten by Vettel in the Focus

[Liz Bolton]

Just watched Nations Cup. Just want to know why Gronholm is in Focus for each of his races, thought point of this was they all race in different cars not the car they are most use too. Although glad Vettel beat him!!!!!

[BeerBro]

i love how when Schumacher was asked whether or not the S2000 car will have a future or not, he simply replied, "No."

LOL.

[1LM1]

i love how when Schumacher was asked whether or not the S2000 car will have a future or not, he simply replied, "No."

LOL.

What does he mean by that? Did he have some trouble with the Punto?

[Liz Bolton]

Yes he stalled it in the nation cup.

[SubaruNorway]

Petter having car problems again LOL

[Viking]

The "white roof" Focus was clearly the fastest in nations cup.

[SteveA]

The online Eurosport coverage is useful, but where's the commentary?!

[MJW]

I think Eurosport will be showing highlights at a later date. Sky Sports is your only option for live coverage.
And absolutely sh1t coverage it is too. I paid to upgrade my subscription to get Sky sports for one month,just for ROC, now I cant wait to cancel it. Mind you I have criticised Eurosport for their unreliable scheduling in the past but now having seen Sky's effort at motorsport makes me realise how good Eurosport and MOTORS TV are!!! They are the motorsports channels for Europe.

[SubaruNorway]

Sound is good though, nice 360 by Kovalainen.

Why the hell do they have penalty for hiting things?

[SteveA]

Sound is good though, nice 360 by Kovalainen

Indeed - The Aston's sound great without some muppet talking over their V8 "music" ;)

[SteveA]

Oh - Priaulx - Our last hope.... :(

[Magnus]

To bad for Bosse, but then again tar is not his surface.
Really bad swedish commentators on eurosport, they did not even no who pastrana is...
:s

[SteveA]

Well done (again) Ekström - nice try Schuey!

[Magnus]

Congrats Ekström!!!
:D

[SubaruNorway]

So kind of a rally win then anyway ;)

[badterminal]

The way I saw it Schuey threw that at the very last minute!!!.
Thats my opinion!!!.

[Micke_VOC]

Ekström winner again... please go back to WRC again...

[1LM1]

Yes he stalled it in the nation cup.


Thanks.

[F1boat]

Nice race, although I'd have liked to see Schumacher to win it.

[Finni]

Haha Grönholm beaten by Vettel in the Focus

I think it's no news that wrc-driver gets beaten in wrc in that race. The same has happened to Loeb also few times with as big diff as in other cars as well.

[N.O.T]

lost its character since it was moved from the Canary islands

[Erki]

Why some people here picked Norway to win I don't understand. :confused:

I must also add, Schumi's overalls were very cool. :up:

[GridGirl]

GRRRRR pictures of ST's with foglights, oh its not fair. :p

Just got back from RoC and jeeeeezzz was it cold. I still haven't thawed out 3 hours later. It was a good day out but I think they need to seriously reduce the ticket prices for next year if they want more people to go.

[Daniel]

It wasn't cold gg. It was bloody freezing! Thought I saw your car in a service but then realised the car had foglights :-p

[Josti]

Why didn't they drive the Focus in the final with Schumacher and Ekström? They drove the Vauxhall 2 times :\ , any problems with the Ford's?

I agree with NOT btw, this event totally lost it's character. These stadium stages are quite boring, combined with most of the cars that are driven. It was so great when they still drove those S1 Quattro's to the limit. I guess sponsors get more profit from these kind of locations.

[Daniel]

Why didn't they drive the Focus in the final with Schumacher and Ekström? They drove the Vauxhall 2 times :\ , any problems with the Ford's?

I agree with NOT btw, this event totally lost it's character. These stadium stages are quite boring, combined with most of the cars that are driven. It was so great when they still drove those S1 Quattro's to the limit. I guess sponsors get more profit from these kind of locations.
If you'd been there you'd have appreciated it for what it is and now what it used to be. The level of car control showed by the drivers simply amazed me......

[Josti]

If you'd been there you'd have appreciated it for what it is and now what it used to be. The level of car control showed by the drivers simply amazed me......

Doesn't take away the fact that it lost it's character. I'm not underrating any driver btw, nor am I saying it's a lauzy event. But you can't deny the fact that it's more a sponsor privilage these days.

I just don't like stadium stages, that's my opinion.

[GridGirl]

Schumacher wouldn't be contractually allowed to driver the Fords, hence him driving the Fiats all the time. I think the same goes for Gronholm who was always driving the Fords and nothing else.

Funniest thing of the day had to be Matthew Wilson (well I'm guessing it was him) driving straight out onto the track and crashing into the first corner and breaking all the Focus's suspension. Doh!

[Jadhu]

Finland have never been in Scandinavia.

Scandinavian countries: Norway, Sweden and Denmark
Nordic countries: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Iceland.

Wrong ; > We are scandinavian country. Scandinavian countries are Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark.

[Daniel]

Doesn't take away the fact that it lost it's character. I'm not underrating any driver btw, nor am I saying it's a lauzy event. But you can't deny the fact that it's more a sponsor privilage these days.

I just don't like stadium stages, that's my opinion.
Yes but it's not part of the WRC or anything. It's an opportunity for everyone to let their hair down and see great drivers driving AND make money for charity.

[Daniel]

Schumacher wouldn't be contractually allowed to driver the Fords, hence him driving the Fiats all the time. I think the same goes for Gronholm who was always driving the Fords and nothing else.

Funniest thing of the day had to be Matthew Wilson (well I'm guessing it was him) driving straight out onto the track and crashing into the first corner and breaking all the Focus's suspension. Doh!
Where were you sitting? :) That happened right in front of me..... truly hilarious.

[White Sauron]

The best moment of the race was when Heikki and Michael fought on the track! A great duel, and the Punto looked great!

[Daniel]

The best moment of the race was when Heikki and Michael fought on the track! A great duel, and the Punto looked great!
I bet it didn't look half as good as it looked in person.

[Josti]

Yes but it's not part of the WRC or anything. It's an opportunity for everyone to let their hair down and see great drivers driving AND make money for charity.

WRC or not, I'm not a fan of it. Point was that it's not the event what it used to be. But yes, it's just for fun and for charity which is good, but people who have knowledge of the old event, know that this is not really as big as some people tend to say.

[ioan]

There's a guy called Sebastian that looks like a good prospect for a favorite driver in the near future, and I'm not talking about Bourdais.

[Daniel]

WRC or not, I'm not a fan of it. Point was that it's not the event what it used to be. But yes, it's just for fun and for charity which is good, but people who have knowledge of the old event, know that this is not really as big as some people tend to say.
Boohoo! Don't rubbish something you haven't seen in person :) If you'd been there and seen what I saw you would have a different opinion.

[Josti]

Boohoo! Don't rubbish something you haven't seen in person :) If you'd been there and seen what I saw you would have a different opinion.

Opinions are different Daniel, no matter what you say. I think it's a great event, and I'm sure you enjoy it when you see it live. But again, these publicity locations did have a negative effect on the events character, especially for the early fans of the event. I'm surprised you don't realize that.

[Daniel]

Opinions are different Daniel, no matter what you say. I think it's a great event, and I'm sure you enjoy it when you see it live. But again, these publicity locations did have a negative effect on the events character, especially for the early fans of the event. I'm surprised you don't realize that.
Yes but the character of the event is not really all that important. It's just for fun. If this was a WRC event I'd want it held in the best possible place even if it's in Antarctica and I have no chance of ever seeing the event. At the end of the day the original event was inaccessible to most people then from that PoV what's the point? If this was a serious event I'd be right there with you complaining but it's not so why not appreciate the light hearted nature of the event and appreciate the drivers that you can see and the level of car control they show. Why should F1 and touring car drivers go drive on a specialised surface (gravel) and make a fool out of themselves when the battle can be fought on a fairly level playing field and we can see some close racing. I for one am glad Michael Schumacher was there. Say what you want about his sportsmanship and Ferrari but by god the man can drive a car with a level of control that most can only dream about. Fair play to him showing up in overalls in the colours of the charity they were sponsoring too.

I agree the solution F cars were absolute rubbish btw. Quite boring to watch although Priaulx did coax a nice slide out of one of them :)

If it was up to me the 5 cars would have been
Xsara
Punto S2000
Quattro S1
Aston Martin N24
RoC Buggy

[Brother John]

I for one am glad Michael Schumacher was there. Say what you want about his sportsmanship and Ferrari but by god the man can drive a car with a level of control that most can only dream about. Fair play to him showing up in overalls in the colours of the charity they were sponsoring too.

It´s all fake! ;) About Michael Schumacher....... :rolleyes: Why he won´t to drive the Focus and he said, I must have that yellow solution F in the final?
ROC is not worth the name and is just a money thing for some people! :s mokin:

[Daniel]

Hey he lost anyway :)

Marcus didn't drive any of the non-Ford producst so you could say the same of him. Drivers have contracts. That's all really.

Why do people have to be so cynical and negative about what is essentially a great event. Don't like it? Put your best of the 80's rallying dvd's in and watch them leave others to enjoy what is a great event :dozey:

[Brother John]

Hey he lost anyway :)
Why do people have to be so cynical and negative about what is essentially a great event.

:D Nice to see that you like a "FAKE" event. ;) The world is full with Fake! :p :

[GridGirl]

Where were you sitting? :) That happened right in front of me..... truly hilarious.

I was sat at the final corner. :)

Brother John, Schumacher will not have been allowed to drive the Focus. As a technical adviser of Ferrari, Fiat are hardly going to want him seen by a global audience driving a Ford. So what if he drove the yellow Solution F in the final race. If the final race was in the RoC buggies Schumacher probably would of won the event as he was by far the fastest driver in them. It wasn't and he didn't win. Better luck to him next year if he enters it agian.

[Giuseppe F1]

Hey he lost anyway :)

Marcus didn't drive any of the non-Ford producst so you could say the same of him. Drivers have contracts. That's all really.

Why do people have to be so cynical and negative about what is essentially a great event. Don't like it? Put your best of the 80's rallying dvd's in and watch them leave others to enjoy what is a great event :dozey:

Absolutely Here, Here!!!


I went last night with a party of 10 friends and it was truly a great experience and a wonderful family event.

We had AMAZING seats on the last corner and barring the fact that it was bloody freezing, I think the event was awesome, was good value for money considering there were 7 hours worth of entertainment and that I got to see some of the best drivers in the world, driving some of the best cars in the world, and demos from F1, DTM, LeMans, X-riders and more.

I saw highlights on Sky as soon as I got in and event the TV pictures do it NO JUSTICE from than actually being there...even the colours looked duller on the telly - theres just something about seeing shiny, polished race-cars/liveries under spotlights which is magical IMO.

The sounds, smells and live action were amazing - even when a car tapped a barrier at the other end of the stadium it sounded awesome...even when the Ford Focus WRC cars were backfiring out of the corners they sounded awesome!!

Only think that got on my nerves was the guy on the BMW stunt-bike wasnt as entertaining in my view relative to the amount of time he had out on track...

For me, highlights of the night were....:


1) The first Jenson/Schuey heat - the crowd went CRAZY!!!! and the final corner was so close it was just electric amongst the crowds on the last corner!

2) Gronholm v Vettel - a great race with great atmosphere from the crowds

3) Schuey stalling the FIAT!

4) Schuey and Heikki driving round nose to tail on the same piece of track and Heikki taking him on the main straight

5) Sebastian Vettel!

6) Bourdais being really grumpy with the interviewer after he crashed out in the buggy and the crowd booing him! :)

7) Sebastian Vettel!

8) The COLIN McRAE tribute

9) The F1/DTM/LeMans demo

10) DC stalling the F1 car.......twice!!

11) Priaulx spinning out and beaching right in front of us and being really great with the crowd as he got out of the car.

12) The sound of the Astons!

13) Spotting Anthony Hamilton at the event - hopefully heres there to suss out how things go down before allowing Lewis at the event in 2008!!!




Honestly, the live event was a true feast for any racing enthusiast - Please dont knock it until you try it! I highly recommend it and Schuey has already said he hopes he gets an invite next year!
7)

[Daniel]

I was sat at the final corner. :)

Brother John, Schumacher will not have been allowed to drive the Focus. As a technical adviser of Ferrari, Fiat are hardly going to want him seen by a global audience driving a Ford. So what if he drove the yellow Solution F in the final race. If the final race was in the RoC buggies Schumacher probably would of won the event as he was by far the fastest driver in them. It wasn't and he didn't win. Better luck to him next year if he enters it agian.
Cool :) I was inbetween the first corner and the start/finish line. What a great event! I could see practically the whole track the whole time :cheese:

For a "fake" event it sure was good :)

[Daniel]

Absolutely Here, Here!!!


I went last night with a party of 10 friends and it was truly a great experience and a wonderful family event.

We had AMAZING seats on the last corner and barring the fact that it was bloody freezing, I think the event was awesome, was good value for money considering there were 7 hours worth of entertainment and that I got to see some of the best drivers in the world, driving some of the best cars in the world, and demos from F1, DTM, LeMans, X-riders and more.

I saw highlights on Sky as soon as I got in and event the TV pictures do it NO JUSTICE from than actually being there...even the colours looked duller on the telly - theres just something about seeing shiny, polished race-cars/liveries under spotlights which is magical IMO.

The sounds, smells and live action were amazing - even when a car tapped a barrier at the other end of the stadium it sounded awesome...even when the Ford Focus WRC cars were backfiring out of the corners they sounded awesome!!

Only think that got on my nerves was the guy on the BMW stunt-bike wasnt as entertaining in my view relative to the amount of time he had out on track...

For me, highlights of the night were....:


1) The first Jenson/Schuey heat - the crowd went CRAZY!!!! and the final corner was so close it was just electric amongst the crowds on the last corner!

2) Gronholm v Vettel - a great race with great atmosphere from the crowds

3) Schuey stalling the FIAT!

4) Schuey and Heikki driving round nose to tail on the same piece of track and Heikki taking him on the main straight

5) Sebastian Vettel!

6) Bourdais being really grumpy with the interviewer after he crashed out in the buggy and the crowd booing him! :)

7) Sebastian Vettel!

8) The COLIN McRAE tribute

9) The F1/DTM/LeMans demo

10) DC stalling the F1 car.......twice!!

11) Priaulx spinning out and beaching right in front of us and being really great with the crowd as he got out of the car.

12) The sound of the Astons!

13) Spotting Anthony Hamilton at the event - hopefully heres there to suss out how things go down before allowing Lewis at the event in 2008!!!




Honestly, the live event was a true feast for any racing enthusiast - Please dont knock it until you try it! I highly recommend it and Schuey has already said he hopes he gets an invite next year!
7)
Couldn't have said it better :) I am now officially a Sebastien Vettel fan. For his age and experience level in comparison to the other drivers I felt that he displayed some pretty amazing car control. He beat Marcus in his own car.

Best Marcus quote last night. "Again another Sebastien in front of me!!!!" :rotflmao:

Personally I think anywhere that I haven't been to sucks :rolleyes:

Schuey and Heikki. That was a moment that I'll always remember :)

[Sturla]

Haha Grönholm beaten by Vettel in the Focus


Some people said that one of the focus cars didn`t have 1. gear, no way Vettel would beat Grønholm if the cars were simular. Petter also complained about the focus was missing 1. gear, but all of us know petter and his excuses :)

[Karbonyl]

Does anyone have the reg. numbers of Puntos used in RoC?

[Wilderness]

Wrong ; > We are scandinavian country. Scandinavian countries are Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark.
Thank you. ;)

[janneppi]

Wrong ; > We are scandinavian country. Scandinavian countries are Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark.
No, Finland isn't part of Scandinavia, not by language roots, and not by Scandinavian penisula either. Finland is however part of Fennoscandia.
Strickly speaking, Denmark isn't part of Scandinavia either.

[ioan]

No, Finland isn't part of Scandinavia, not by language roots, and not by Scandinavian penisula either. Finland is however part of Fennoscandia.
Strickly speaking, Denmark isn't part of Scandinavia either.

Here you go:



Geographically the Scandinavian Peninsula includes what is today mainland Sweden and mainland Norway.[15][16]. A small part of north-western Finland is sometimes also considered part of the peninsula.[17] In physiography, Denmark is considered part of the North European Plain, rather than the geologically cool Scandy peninsula that was mainly occupied by Norway and Sweden.[18] However, Denmark has historically included the region of Scania on the Scandinavian Peninsula. For this reason, but even more for cultural and linguistic reasons, Denmark – Jutland on the Jutland peninsula of the European continent, along with Zealand and the other islands in the Danish archipelago – is considered part of the Scandinavian region also by the Scandinavians themselves.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia

Now that this is clear, back to racing. ;)

[BobbyC]

Schumacher wouldn't be contractually allowed to driver the Fords, hence him driving the Fiats all the time. I think the same goes for Gronholm who was always driving the Fords and nothing else.

Funniest thing of the day had to be Matthew Wilson (well I'm guessing it was him) driving straight out onto the track and crashing into the first corner and breaking all the Focus's suspension. Doh!

Same problem would have been with Johnson too. Johnson would not be contractually allowed in the Fords, so he would have been driving the Vauxhalls (a GM driver). Recently his new NSCS teammate Dale Earnhardt Jnr had a V8 Supercar (Australia) session in a Holden, as that is a GM product.

[Daniel]

Romania is part of Australasia because Wikipedia says so :o )

[ioan]

Romania is part of Australasia because Wikipedia says so :o )

You mean Eurasia. :p :

[Daniel]

No. Australasia as in where Australia is.

[Wilderness]

http://www.scandinavianow.com

[Giuseppe F1]

Silly question now - from the inboard shots from the FIATs, it almost seemed like there were 'two' sequential gear-levers.....


....can anyone please explain how this set-up works for a rally ignoramous like me! Thabks :)

[SubaruNorway]

Silly question now - from the inboard shots from the FIATs, it almost seemed like there were 'two' sequential gear-levers.....


....can anyone please explain how this set-up works for a rally ignoramous like me! Thabks :)

Gearshift and handbrake probably

[ioan]

No. Australasia as in where Australia is.

Searched Australasia on wikipedia and here's the map:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/LocationAustralasia.png/800px-LocationAustralasia.png

Can't see Romania anywhere in Australasia. I also did a search about "Romania"on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australasia page, with no success!

So where did you find that :?:

[Daniel]

Because I said so. I'm not from Romania (just like you're not from Finland) but I sure know more about your home country than you do by your logic :)

[ioan]

Because I said so. I'm not from Romania (just like you're not from Finland) but I sure know more about your home country than you do by your logic :)

You lost me there with your logics! However I know one more thing about you now: your geography knowledge $ucks big time! :p :

[Daniel]

I come from Australia. I know it's nowhere near Romania. Perhaps that sheds some light on my intentional lack of logic :)

[ioan]

I come from Australia. I know it's nowhere near Romania. Perhaps that sheds some light on my intentional lack of logic :)

Well, I come from Europe and know exactly where each European country is! BTW I also know where Australia and Australasia is!

It might be because it's late but I can't get a clear grasp of your logics or intentional lack of it! I hope you'll tell us what it's all about, it sounds more exciting than the RoC event! :p : ;)

[Giuseppe F1]

Well, I come from Europe and know exactly where each European country is! BTW I also know where Australia and Australasia is!

It might be because it's late but I can't get a clear grasp of your logics or intentional lack of it! I hope you'll tell us what it's all about, it sounds more exciting than the RoC event! :p : ;)

:) :) :)

[pino]

Guys have you noticed that there's a great Geography thread in Chit-Chat ? ;)

[ioan]

Guys have you noticed that there's a great Geography thread in Chit-Chat ? ;)

Yep, but this one is about different geography (at least from what I can tell :p :) !

[grumpyduck]

It was a thoroughly enjoyable day out and I wish I had gone to France last year now too.

It was possibly the best use of a football stadium i ever saw... :D

Check out my video here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdjfkfo66uY)



:D

[SteveA]

Nice video, grumpyduck!

[Magnus]

Terrible music on that...
Wonder what pastrana thought of the backflips...

[grumpyduck]

Terrible music on that...



Its the ROC music for the event... better than thrash metal I thought... :D

What would you have liked?

[janneppi]

http://www.scandinavianow.com
I'm sure you read the editorial of that site before linking it. ;)

"Scandinavia Now is the only English language, web published magazine covering the broad aspects of Nordic Business, Industry and Trade, that has successfully managed to reach and retain an international readership."
English speaking world, especially US doesn't diffrentiate between Scandinavia and Nordic countries, however that doesn't make them the same. :p :

Sorry pino. :p :

[GridGirl]

Does anyone have the reg. numbers of Puntos used in RoC?

Finally got round to looking at our pictures. One of the Fiats was DF909XT.

[Wilderness]

I'm sure you read the editorial of that site before linking it. ;)

English speaking world, especially US doesn't diffrentiate between Scandinavia and Nordic countries, however that doesn't make them the same. :p :

Sorry pino. :p :
Where's Tom Kristensen from? ;)