Monte Carlo 2008

[Roy]

Some organisers have a organise a special rally. Some they do like it is special and if not than make it a rally of 4 days :eek:

4 days ralling in Monte Carlo?

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/wrc/news/156709-0/rallye_monte_carlo_to_break_mould_again.html

Thursday 24 January:
Valence Cermonial Start Champ de Mars 18.00
SS1 St Jean en Royans-Col de Lachau 28.12 km 19.16
SS2 La Cime du Mas - Col de Gaudissart 17.58 km 20.06
Flexi Service A Valence (45 mins) 23.00
Finish 23.45

Total Leg 1 distance: 169.31 km (competitive 45.70 km)


Friday 25 January:
Start Valence 06.50
Service B Valence (15 mins)
SS3 Saint Pierreville - Col de la Fayolle 28.50 km 08:24
SS4 Burzet - Lachamp Raphael 16.30 km 10:02
SS5 St Martial - Le Chambon Beleac 12.66 km 10:48
Service C Valence (30 mins) 13.02
SS6 Saint Pierreville – Col de la Fayolle 28.50 km 14:48
SS7 Burzet – Lachamp Raphael 16.30 km 16:29
SS8 St Martial – Le Chambon Beleac 12.66 km 17:15
Flexi Service D Valence (45 mins) 20.50
Finish Valence 21.35

Total Leg 2 distance: 544.25 km (competitive 114.92 km)


Saturday 26 January:
Start Valence 06:00
Service E Valence (10 mins)
SS9 Labatie d´Andaure - Lalouvesc 19.37 km 07:31
SS10 St Bonnet - St Bonnet 25.49 km 08:13
SS11 Lamastre – Alboussiere 21.66 km 09:38
Service F Valence (30 mins) 11.01
SS12 Labatie d´Andaure - Lalouvesc 19.37 km 12:52
SS13 St Bonnet le froid - St Bonnet le Froid 25.49 km 13:34
SS14 Lamastre – Alboussiere 21.66 km 14:59
Flexi Service G Valence (45 mins) 17.45
Finish 00.30

Total Leg 3 distance: 443.24 km (competitive 133.04 km)


Sunday 27 January:
Start Monaco 07:00
Remote Service Zone – Gilette (15 mins) 07.50
SS15 La Bollene Vesubie - Moulinet 22.27 km 08.50
SS16 Luceram - Loda 15.34 km 10.08
SS17 La Bollene Vesubie - Moulinet 22.27 km 10.51
SS18 Luceram - Loda 15.34 km 12.09
Remote Service Zone – Gilette (45 mins) 12.54
Finish Monaco arrival 14.00
Ceremonial finish Place du Palais 15.30

Total Leg 4 distance: 307.62 km (competitive 75.22 km)
Total event distance 1464.42 km (competitive 368.88 km)

[Langdale Forest]

A four day rally with 2 night stages! :cool:

They had 2 night stages on the Thursday this year but they only had a superspeciel on Sunday.

[JAM]

Just like in 2007. Is nothing new.

[J4MIE]

Just like in 2007. Is nothing new.

Few extra stages on Sunday (including Turini :up: ) and they only go to Monte Carlo for the podium.

[Roy]

Just like in 2007. Is nothing new.

Thursday is a new day now. In 2007 Thursday belong to day 1.

[Goldeye355]

will there be snow stages in turini? i really hope so, rallying is car vs. nature. the fia have toned it down so much that it's boring to watch now. just gravel and more gravel...

they should stop cancelling stages due to snow or rain and let the show go on!

[SubaruNorway]

will there be snow stages in turini? i really hope so, rallying is car vs. nature. the fia have toned it down so much that it's boring to watch now. just gravel and more gravel...

they should stop cancelling stages due to snow or rain and let the show go on!

Thats pretty much up to the guy upstairs to decide if it's gona be snow ore not, the area they went to this year just to have a lot of snow in the past but not this year. Never heard of stages being cancelled due to snow ore definetly not rain, you must have confused it with F1 :D

[Brother John]

[quote="Goldeye355"] the fia have toned it down so much that it's boring to watch now. just gravel and more gravel... quote]

Rally was born on gravel and belongs on gravel. two asphalts rallys each year are enough, asphalt rallys must be then smal and very technical and no racetrack like in Spain. If you want only speed go then to WTCC ore F1.
I am curious how Ireland will look forward to. This becomes maybe the most intresting asphalt rally in WRC for the future. I know that in many countries it is no longer possible only to have gravel stages, thats why they most have mixed surface. I mean real mixed surface with the same tyres and same suspension. That is real rally, this way it must be..back to the roots. :s mokin:

[Josti]

Asphalt has got just a big history as gravel BJ. Sure, nowadays gravel is more exciting than asphalt, but blame that on the cars.

Though I agree with you that the real small technical stages are missing in likes as Spain and Corsica (at least what I've seen from footage).

Monte 2008 looks interesting, can't believe they want to skip it for 2009.

[pantealex]

Closing date for Entries is 20.12 (thursday)
Then we will see:
-How many Ford teams, who will drive in them
-Suzuki drivers
-Is there Subaru or Citroen B-team
-Private entries

Remember, there will be no JWRC or PWRC in Monte.

[AndyRAC]

Good that Turini is back, all we need now is for it to be run at night and with snow. WRC needs to go back to its roots, not the sham it is at the moment.

[MikeD]

Asphalt has got just a big history as gravel BJ.

I agree.


Sure, nowadays gravel is more exciting than asphalt, but blame that on the cars.

Here I disagree. Seeing WRC cars on small narrow streets in old cities is for me far more exiting that gravel rallies. Especially Monte Carlo and Tour de Corse are my favorites, but Ireland was a major bonus for me as well. I think Rally should be a equal amount of tarmac and gravel rallies.

PS: But Catalunya is awfull and Germany is so-so.

[Roy]

Monte was a classic event, because the snow and ice ontarmac. Monte without snow/ice is the same as rally Catalunya... boring.

[Josti]

Here I disagree. Seeing WRC cars on small narrow streets in old cities is for me far more exiting that gravel rallies. Especially Monte Carlo and Tour de Corse are my favorites.


For sure, the image of a rallycar in a little village is always a nice sight. I was actually talking about how current WRCars act on asphalt surfaces, which isn't very exciting to watch anymore.

Maybe I haven't seen enough of the Corsica event this year, but it seems that most of the stages are run on much widther and smoother roads, then what I remember from the old Tour de Corse.

[DonJippo]

Francois Delecour rumoured to enter 2008 Monte with Bozian 307 WRC according to Veikkaaja magazine in Finland.

[MikeD]

Francois Delecour rumoured to enter 2008 Monte with Bozian 307 WRC according to Veikkaaja magazine in Finland.

That's great news.

As far as I know Bozian only has one 307 left. The others are sold to other privateers (maybe that can be confirmed by Tom206WRC).

The one they have left is this one which is currently being driven by Patrick Henry.

http://www.bozian-racing.com/ze/f_enews.htm

[Roy]

Francois Delecour rumoured to enter 2008 Monte with Bozian 307 WRC according to Veikkaaja magazine in Finland.

Why? He can drive for free in tarmac rallies in the best car? We Dutch say somethings about Belgians... We can see that in Duval if this is true... dumb

Sorry forum members who are from Belgium :D

[Brother John]

Why? He can drive for free in tarmac rallies in the best car? We Dutch say somethings about Belgians... We can see that in Duval if this is true... dumb

Sorry forum members who are from Belgium :D

And we say somethings about the Dutsh, but never mind......don´t want to start that here. ;)
When we will see a Dutsh driver on the top 5 in wrc cars?

[Roy]

And we say somethings about the Dutsh, but never mind......don´t want to start that here. ;)
When we will see a Dutsh driver on the top 5 in wrc cars?

Just a joke... You can have...
Dutch in top 5? When Weijs grow up? Maybe?

[Koppomsbo]

how many stages will cancelled? :s

[Corny]

When we will see a Dutsh driver on the top 5 in wrc cars?
That might take a few years :p

[Josti]

Just a joke... You can have...
Dutch in top 5? When Weijs grow up? Maybe?

I'd rather say v/d Heuvel first, who's much further in development. But cookie talk if you look at avalaible seats and the money that is required.

But back on topic. Would be great to see Delecour in Monte Carlo, let alone such a car being in good hands again. He didn't really left WRC in a way he deserved I think.

[Tomi]

That might take a few years :p

about 15 years still to wait, then Lasse is ready, can be someone else too in case someone understand that driving skill is more important than car livery.

[Josti]

can be someone else too in case someone understand that driving skill is more important than car livery.

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[Tomi]

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just joking, but there is offcourse also the possibility to adopt some talent driver.

[Josti]

just joking, but there is offcourse also the possibility to adopt some talent driver.

They have.

[edacurf]

the maps for 2008 are online on the off. site. see ya there

[N]

a question to those who are faimiliar with the area, where is the rally held? is it like 200km away from Monte Carlo? Can someone recommend in which town to stay, or which places to stay in during the rally, it looks like a logistics nightmare cause it seems so spread around?

[Priorat]

a question to those who are faimiliar with the area, where is the rally held? is it like 200km away from Monte Carlo? Can someone recommend in which town to stay, or which places to stay in during the rally, it looks like a logistics nightmare cause it seems so spread around?

In fact, thursday, friday and saturday is 500 km away from Monte-Carlo. Biggest city there is Valence (south of Lyon).
Then Sunday is very close to Monte-Carlo.

[HaCo]

There is a news message going around, stating Pieter Tsjoen would support Francois Duval in a Focus WRC 07 in the Monte Carlo!
http://www.vroom.be/fr/actualite-auto-moto/sport-5108,sport-0.asp

I hope it's true, maybe the Monte won't be a one-man show afther all... :D

[Roy]

There is a news message going around, stating Pieter Tsjoen would support Francois Duval in a Focus WRC 07 in the Monte Carlo!
http://www.vroom.be/fr/actualite-auto-moto/sport-5108,sport-0.asp

I hope it's true, maybe the Monte won't be a one-man show afther all... :D

See http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123530&page=2

[Tom206wrc]

Francois Delecour rumoured to enter 2008 Monte with Bozian 307 WRC according to Veikkaaja magazine in Finland.



For a surprise... :eek:


Also Jean-Marie Cuoq will be there 95% sure with his white whale like this year :p :

Bryan Bouffier will try to be there in the 207 S2000(as Italian G-D Basso with his Grande Punto)... ;)

Other rumours among french amateurs are Laurent Carbonaro(307 wrc) and Frédéric Romeyer(206 wrc like this year's Monte-Carlo)...

[MikeD]

For a surprise... :eek:


Also Jean-Marie Cuoq will be there 95% sure with his white whale like this year :p :

He did really well last year, so that's good news



Other rumours among french amateurs are Laurent Carbonaro(307 wrc)

Do you know if he is good enough to get a Priority 2 entry?

[Tom206wrc]

...
Do you know if he is good enough to get a Priority 2 entry?



Carbonaro is what we can call a young gentleman-driver, not very fast, and he's doing rally since 2 years only(he's a professional horseman, but riding the animal not the car engine's power :laugh: )...

[Eyvind]

The car of Carbonaro is rented to any team?

Or have purchased any of the 307 who were in France (Cuoq, Salanon, Pereira ...)?

[Tom206wrc]

The car of Carbonaro is rented to any team?

Or have purchased any of the 307 who were in France (Cuoq, Salanon, Pereira ...)?



From what I've read in other forums he bought it to Cuoq, who bought a new whale instead ;)

[Eyvind]

Ok Tom. :)

Maybe Cuoq bought any of the 307 still had Peugeot Sport

[MikeD]

From what I've read in other forums he bought it to Cuoq, who bought a new whale instead ;)

Thanks for the info mate,

Cuoq has his own site now, in case you haven't seen it (see below). My french is a little rusty (despite me having a french mother) so if you find any news regarding entries with the 307, let me know ;)

http://www.teamrallyecuoq.fr/modules/news/

[HaCo]

It's confirmed now, Duval will do th MC in a Focus 07!!! :D :D

[Donney]

Good news!

[Corny]

It's confirmed now, Duval will do th MC in a Focus 07!!! :D :D

Yeah, c'mon Francois..

[Eyvind]

Any news after the close of entries?

[Tom206wrc]

Any news after the close of entries?



The ACM has always published the Monte-Carlo entrylist about one week before the rally starts, not earlier :mark:

[Josti]

The ACM has always published the Monte-Carlo entrylist about one week before the rally starts, not earlier :mark:

Will Delecour start in the 307, or was that no more than a small rumour?

[Tom206wrc]

No idea it comes from a finnish newspaper only, no rumour/news from any other newspaper(even not in France) :rolleyes:

[pino]

Any news after the close of entries?

Gigi will be there too :D

http://www.italiaracing.net/news.asp?id=1289&nome=RALLY&cart=RALLY

[Brother John]

Gigi will be there too :D

http://www.italiaracing.net/news.asp?id=1289&nome=RALLY&cart=RALLY

Very good news Pino, i hope we will see a great rally in Sweden. ;)

[pino]

Very good news Pino, i hope we will see a great rally in Sweden. ;)

Look forward for Sweden hopefully Gigi will be there too ;)

[Priorat]

Gigi will be there too :D

http://www.italiaracing.net/news.asp?id=1289&nome=RALLY&cart=RALLY

From the text I can't understand if it is with Stobart. Can you confirm it?. Thank you.

[pino]

From the text I can't understand if it is with Stobart. Can you confirm it?. Thank you.

It's with Stobart ;)

[Priorat]

From the text I can't understand if it is with Stobart. Can you confirm it?. Thank you.

I´ve allready read in a nother thread. So great news.

[Helstar]

Whoa great, so happy !

Pino ci vai ? ^_^

Magari ci incontriamo ;)

[pino]

Whoa great, so happy !

Pino ci vai ? ^_^

Magari ci incontriamo ;)

Haven't decided yet, if I go I'll let you know ;)

[[WRCRR]]

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/wrc/news/158293-0/official:_monte_entry_list_confirmed.html

Monte provisional entry up, bit dissapointing IMO.

18-20 WRCars. Delecour is in the entry. Notables missing from the entry are at least Pons and Mikkelsen.

[Dilek]

Entry List:

1. Sebastien Loeb Citroen Total WRT C4 WRC M
2. Daniel Sordo Citroen Total WRT C4 WRC M
3. Mikko Hirvonen BP Ford Focus RS WRC 07 M
4. Jari-Matti Latvala BP Ford Focus RS WRC 07 M
5. Petter Solberg Subaru WRT Impreza WRC 2006 M
6. Chris Atkinson Subaru WRT Impreza WRC 2006 M
7. Gigi Galli Stobart Ford Focus WRC 07 M
8. Francois Duval Stobart Ford Focus WRC 07 M
9.Toni Gardemeister Suzuki WRT SX4 WRC M
10.Per-Gunnar Andersson Suzuki WRT SX4 WRC M
11.Henning Solberg Stobart Ford Focus WRC 07 A8
12.Matthew Wilson Stobart Ford Focus WRC 07 A8
13.Khalid Al-Qassimi BP Ford Focus RS WRC 06 A8
14.Conrad Rautenbach Citroen Xsara WRC A8
15.Laurent Carbonaro Peugeot 307 WRC A8
16.Jean-Marie Cuoq Peugeot 307 WRC A8
17.Philippe Roux Peugeot 307 WRC A8
18.Frederic Romeyer Peugeot 206 WRC A8
19.Riccardo Errani Skoda Octavia TBC
20.Francois Delecour TBC TBC

Franck Amaudru Subaru Impreza N4
Patrick Artru Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4
Jerome Aymard Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9 N4
Miguel Baudouin Mitsubishi Lancer Evo N4
Olivier Burri Subaru Impreza N4
Flavio Castegnaro Subaru Impreza N4
Ludovic Cluzel Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4
Franck Doveri Mitsubishi Lancer Evo III N4
Joan Font Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4
Richard Frau Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4
Milan Liska Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4
Alain Machard Subaru Impreza STi N4
Laurent Nicolas Subaru Impreza N4
Giacomo Ogliari Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4
Gilbert Sau Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4
Frederic Sauvan Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4
Jan Sykora Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4
Luca Betti Honda Civic Type R A7
Alessandro Broccoli Renault Clio A7
Frederic Combe Renault Clio RS A7
Daniel Holczer Honda Civic A7
Marc Dessi Renault Clio RS A7
Eddie Mercier Renault Clio A7
Stefano Moretti Renault Clio A7
Andrea Panicco Peugeot 206 RC A7
Silvano Pintarelli Renault Clio A7
Gerri Pranzoni Renault Clio A7
Henri-Marc Venturini Renault Clio A7
Lilian Vialle Renault Clio A7

Crash.net

Pons there is no list of Monte Carlo..Even there is no Swedish Rally list but Solberg and Atkinson in a list :eek:

[Corny]

this is a clear better list than last 2 years..

Petter and Chris with a Subaru 2006?

[alleskids]

Mathew Wilson will have number 16 when he is not nominated. Xevi Pons seems to be dropped from the Subaru Team, or the other way around, he and his sponsors are looking for a more competitive car/team.
There is still no news from the Munchi's Ford team ?

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks for the provisional entrylist :D

So perhaps four whales on this rally(let's say Delec' will run with it too) ;)

[HaCo]

Mathew Wilson will have number 16 when he is not nominated. Xevi Pons seems to be dropped from the Subaru Team, or the other way around, he and his sponsors are looking for a more competitive car/team.
There is still no news from the Munchi's Ford team ?
I hope Meek will get a chance in the Subaru team!

[MikeD]

1. Sebastien Loeb Citroen Total WRT C4 WRC M
2. Daniel Sordo Citroen Total WRT C4 WRC M
3. Mikko Hirvonen BP Ford Focus RS WRC 07 M
4. Jari-Matti Latvala BP Ford Focus RS WRC 07 M
5. Petter Solberg Subaru WRT Impreza WRC 2006 M
6. Chris Atkinson Subaru WRT Impreza WRC 2006 M
7. Gigi Galli Stobart Ford Focus WRC 07 M
8. Francois Duval Stobart Ford Focus WRC 07 M
Toni Gardemeister Suzuki WRT SX4 WRC M
Per-Gunnar Andersson Suzuki WRT SX4 WRC M


Please note that Suzuki haven't been given any numbers yet, which must indicate that the Munchi's teams entry has yet to be decided. Munchi's was supposed to be running cars 9 & 10 and Suzuki 11 & 12.

It also looks bad regarding the PH-Sport team. I thought they were going to run an M2 team with two C4's, but now they have entered as a privateer with just one Xsara.

And no Ramsport entries aswell, so we might end up having only 5 teams this year .... which would be so much less than what was hoped for.

[MikeD]

I have a couple of Whale questions. Which team will be running/preparing the cars for :

Laurent Carbonaro - Peugeot 307 WRC A8
Philippe Roux Peugeot 307 WRC A8
Frederic Romeyer Peugeot 206 WRC A8

[Simmi]

M2 teams dont have to do this round though. But even if PH Sport and Ramsport didnt register as M2 teams it doesnt mean they wont do a lot of events anyway. They can enter whatever events they want.

A bit early for doom and gloom just yet.

[alleskids]

M2 teams/MT have to do 10 out of the 15 rallies, so they have untill the Sardinia Rally Italia to make it official. But then they have to go outside Europe and do New Zealand and Japan. It makes more sence (and make it cheaper?) just to do the 10 European rounds. So I hope that Aava can get his things with the FIA clear and make it a M2 team with Rautenbach.
It would be an easy paper thing to make one of the 3 full time Stobart drivers who is not nominated for Stobart enter under the Munchi's banner.

[Tom206wrc]

I have a couple of Whale questions. Which team will be running/preparing the cars for :

Laurent Carbonaro - Peugeot 307 WRC A8
Philippe Roux Peugeot 307 WRC A8
Frederic Romeyer Peugeot 206 WRC A8


Laurent Carbonaro bought the ex-Cuoq whale and I presume Cuoq's team will prepare it for him ;)

Philippe Roux is usually a customer for BSA so I expect it will be Beuzelin's team :)

Frédéric Romeyer is Jean-Marie Cuoq's friend, bought the ex-Cuoq 206wrc and Team Cuoq of course making the service for him :D

Also don't forget François Delecour(codriven by Denis Giraudet for the occasion)in the Bozian whale... ;)

[MikeD]

Laurent Carbonaro bought the ex-Cuoq whale and I presume Cuoq's team will prepare it for him ;)

Philippe Roux is usually a customer for BSA so I expect it will be Beuzelin's team :)

Frédéric Romeyer is Jean-Marie Cuoq's friend, bought the ex-Cuoq 206wrc and Team Cuoq of course making the service for him :D

Also don't forget François Delecour(codriven by Denis Giraudet for the occasion)in the Bozian whale... ;)

Thanks mate ;)

Is Delecour confirmed in the whale or is it 99% sure?

[GigiGalliNo1]

Will Delecour start in the 307, or was that no more than a small rumour?

Is that the Francois Delecour you're talking about?

[bennizw]

Is that the Francois Delecour you're talking about?

Oh yeah, it is THE Francois Delecour we are talking about yes ;) This will be sincerly interesting!

[Daniel]

Delecour. Wow!

[tribefiend]

I haven't even heard his name in 5 years.

[Mirek]

tribefiend: Delecour was trying his luck with Porsche in Frech tarmac champ this year.

[Neodyum]

Isn't Roux run with Bozian Racing ?

[Tom206wrc]

Isn't Roux run with Bozian Racing ?




Maybe you're right :confused:

[Langdale Forest]

Only 49 cars.
Will it be the rally with the least entries in 2008?

[Brother John]

Only 49 cars.
Will it be the rally with the least entries in 2008?

Drivers don´t like the old "classics" ! :D Only people that probable never was there itself! :p :

[Tom206wrc]

Only 49 cars.
Will it be the rally with the least entries in 2008?




I bet NZ, Mexico and Japan will be worse :p :

[Wim_Impreza]

I bet NZ, Mexico and Japan will be worse :p :

NZ has always a great entry for PWRC and Japan is not that bad. Only about Mexico you are probably right.

[Tom206wrc]

NZ has always a great entry for PWRC and Japan is not that bad. Only about Mexico you are probably right.



I was talking about WRC cars in fact, not other classes :mark:

[alleskids]

I was talking about WRC cars in fact, not other classes :mark:

Van Merksteijn Motorsport , father and son Peter, are planning to do Rally Japan. There ambition is to do 8 WRC rallies.
Sweden / Jordan (!!) / Sardinia / Finland / Deutschland / Catalunya / Japan (!!) and Wales

Catalunya will be a bit of trouble finding a navigator, as Eddy Chevallier will be navigating for Duval. But the team is looking for a new co driver fo Peter jr.

[Corny]

Van Merksteijn Motorsport , father and son Peter, are planning to do Rally Japan. There ambition is to do 8 WRC rallies.
Sweden / Jordan (!!) / Sardinia / Finland / Deutschland / Catalunya / Japan (!!) and Wales

Catalunya will be a bit of trouble finding a navigator, as Eddy Chevallier will be navigating for Duval. But the team is looking for a new co driver fo Peter jr.

Do they care about this here on the forum? ;)

[alleskids]

I think they do not :) . It should be in a seperated tread about non Finisch drivers that also have the budget to take their WRCars to WRC rallies :) .

[MikeD]

Van Merksteijn Motorsport , father and son Peter, are planning to do Rally Japan. There ambition is to do 8 WRC rallies.
Sweden / Jordan (!!) / Sardinia / Finland / Deutschland / Catalunya / Japan (!!) and Wales

Catalunya will be a bit of trouble finding a navigator, as Eddy Chevallier will be navigating for Duval. But the team is looking for a new co driver fo Peter jr.

It was Dom Buckley who prepared/ran his car for his 3 WRC events this year. Do you know if Dom Buckley will run his car in 2008 in those 8 events?

[Tomi]

I think they do not :) . It should be in a seperated tread about non Finisch drivers that also have the budget to take their WRCars to WRC rallies :) .
And if you make the tread non Finnish drivers who can drive, it will be so short that it does not need a tread of ot own.

[Brother John]

I think they do not :) . It should be in a seperated tread about non Finisch drivers that also have the budget to take their WRCars to WRC rallies :) .

They must prove something firstly in WRC before we care here on the forum. ;)

[Corny]

They must prove something firstly in WRC before we care here on the forum. ;)
They have proven something, that they've got the money :p

[Tom206wrc]

According to the Dauphiné newspaper from today Jean-Marie Cuoq's new whale is the ex-Henning Solberg(Bozian)and will keep its orange livery for the Rallye Monte-Carlo... :p :

[edacurf]

According to the Dauphiné newspaper from today Jean-Marie Cuoq's new whale is the ex-Henning Solberg(Bozian)and will keep its orange livery for the Rallye Monte-Carlo... :p :

no omv livery car ?! no austrian driver 2008

[J4MIE]

no omv livery car ?! no austrian driver 2008

OMV are stopping all sponsorship in rallying.

[edacurf]

OMV are stopping all sponsorship in rallying.

yes i know it - look at http://www.owrt.com

[cosmicpanda]

how's the weather looking so far? Any snow? :p

[PuddleJumper]

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/02012008/58/monte-carlo-rally-pons-miss-season-opener.html

[N]

To all of you who are going to the rally, where are you staying?
I started looking today and I see that Valence has a lot of hotels and I'm thinking of going on saturday night to Nice to sleep over there, so that in the morning we can go to the Col de Turini. What are your plans?

[edacurf]

I make a overview map for Thursday, Friday and Saturday! you can download the map from our page! rallyefreunde.at.tf

greets from austria

[N]

today I drew all the stages in Google Earth so I can get a better feel for where they are, :) My plan is to stay in Valence on Thursday and Friday Night and then on Saturday, go to Nice after the stages and sleep over there - and then after the rally is finished, drive for 10 hours back to Croatia, :) a perfect way to spend the weekend.

[BG5WRC]

Is anyone going who can share a car and accomodation (or sleeping in the car) for 1 extra person for Thurs-Sunday? Please PM!

[pino]

how's the weather looking so far? Any snow? :p

Very cold and plenty of snow :D

[J4MIE]

today I drew all the stages in Google Earth so I can get a better feel for where they are, :) My plan is to stay in Valence on Thursday and Friday Night and then on Saturday, go to Nice after the stages and sleep over there

Looks like a good plan, it is a shame there is such a distance to cover over the days :s

[A.F.F.]

Very cold and plenty of snow :D

Is it really :eek:

Too bad for certain Young Mr. Sordo ;)

[Tom206wrc]

And better for Dudu and Galli ??? :p :

[A.F.F.]

I had totally different drivers in my mind ;)

[cosmicpanda]

Is it cold and snowy everywhere, or just in Valence or Monaco?

Sounds good anyway :D

[Micke_VOC]

Delecours car is a 307 wrc from Bozian , its written today in swedish news papper that Daniel Carlsson shall use the same car in Sweden...

[René]

Very cold and plenty of snow :D

Yep ! you can see some pictures about the dayly weather in Ardèche area ;)

Lachamp Raphael 80cm snow today ;)
Here:
http://www.skipass.com/forums/enmontagne/stations_ski_france/sujet-87678-250.html#

[Tom206wrc]

Delecours car is a 307 wrc from Bozian , its written today in swedish news papper that Daniel Carlsson shall use the same car in Sweden...


;)

[Josti]

Delecours car is a 307 wrc from Bozian , its written today in swedish news papper that Daniel Carlsson shall use the same car in Sweden...

I'll be cheering for Delecour that's for sure. He might make a stunt, just as he did in 1991. Then again, different times. It seems a certain Mr. Loeb is hard to beat on this rally, but heavy weather conditions might play a roll in this.

Who´s actually Frequelins replacement as teammanager of Citroën?


Great news for Daniel btw, and to see a 307 in competitive hands also in Sweden :)

[A.F.F.]

Who´s actually Frequelins replacement as teammanager of Citroën?


That would be Olivier Quesnel according to MTV3.

[Josti]

That would be Olivier Quesnel according to MTV3.

Ok, thanks :)

[Catiocha7]

Is there any Skoda WRC car will be in Monte Carlo 2008 ?

[Josti]

Is there any Skoda WRC car will be in Monte Carlo 2008 ?

Nope, Kopecky ain't running the championship this year or anyone else in a Fabia for that matter. I expect a Fabia at the Deutschland Rally the earliest.

EDIT: I thought Riccardo Errani again entered with an Octavia if I'm correct.

[Catiocha7]

Thanks Josti,
But I have heard that there is an Octavia WRC will be there ( I mean in MC round ) !
Do you know who's the driver ?

[MikeD]

Thanks Josti,
But I have heard that there is an Octavia WRC will be there ( I mean in MC round ) !
Do you know who's the driver ?

I think Italien driver Riccardo Errani could enter MC with a Skoda Octavia WRC, but I don't think he will have a priority 2 drive so he might start down the order (no. 60+)

[White Sauron]

Where can I find the full list of entrants? Just there's nothing on FIA's or Monaco Autoclub official sites...

[Tom206wrc]

Official entrylist will be published after tomorrow, wednesday 9th january ;)

[White Sauron]

Official entrylist will be published after tomorrow, wednesday 9th january ;)

Thanks, Tom! :D

[Tom206wrc]

Official entrylist published today finally !!! :bounce: :bounce:


http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2008/engages_2008.php

[White Sauron]

Official entrylist published today finally !!! :bounce: :bounce:


http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2008/engages_2008.php

Strange that Duval is #7... the number of a driver who must stay the same the whole year...

[N]

Looks good, 96 cars entered.

I spent today looking for hotels, I found a cheap one in Nice for saturday night, but I'm still looking for a cheap hotel in Valence, any suggestions? :)

Also, to those of you who went up to Col de Turini, how is it with car parking up there?

[Tom206wrc]

No, 49 cars on entrylist... :rolleyes:

[User]

Strange that Duval is #7... the number of a driver who must stay the same the whole year...
Whole season for Duval? :D

Probably an error. :)

[MJW]

Strange that Duval is #7... the number of a driver who must stay the same the whole year...
If you look on the FIA website where the manufacturers entry for MC are listed Giggi Galli has been allocated number 7. He is entered for all 15 rounds and nominated point scorer for Stobart on all rounds. Other Stobart drivers will be nominated on their strongest rounds, so I guess Henning for Sweden, Duval for tarmac etc.

[White Sauron]

If you look on the FIA website where the manufacturers entry for MC are listed Giggi Galli has been allocated number 7. He is entered for all 15 rounds and nominated point scorer for Stobart on all rounds. Other Stobart drivers will be nominated on their strongest rounds, so I guess Henning for Sweden, Duval for tarmac etc.

As user say, must be an error)

[DonJippo]

Strange that Duval is #7... the number of a driver who must stay the same the whole year...

Manufacturer Team can change both drivers during the season as they wish as long as they inform FIA five weeks prior a event who point scoring driver/s are.

[pantealex]

No 307WRC for Roux

[pantealex]

http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2008/January/070108-01.html Monte

http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2008/January/040108-02.html Hole season (note: Under the 2008 Sporting Regulations, the above competition numbers will not change throughout the Championship)

Stobart and Munchi´s can change number1 driver

[pucky54]

hmm...no 25 for Galli? :D

[Tom206wrc]

No 307WRC for Roux




I guess it was the Bozian whale that went to Delecour :mark:

[Roy]

Strange that Duval is #7... the number of a driver who must stay the same the whole year...

Like DonJippo said. Only Manufactures can't changed their first driver. Manufacterur Teams (MT) like Stobart and Munchi's can do.
It was in 2006, 2007 and also now in 2008.

Only little weird FIA give's another info.
http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2008/January/070108-01.html

But they do that in 2007 also with Latvala/Henning in Monaco. We will see what happened.
http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2007/January/080107-02.html

[padWRC]

I guess it was the Bozian whale that went to Delecour :mark:

But Bozian has two 307WRC!

[Tom206wrc]

But Bozian has two 307WRC!


Are you sure ?? I thought they had one only since last year :confused:

[padWRC]

chassis 15:
99 AKF 69 (ex-274 PWX 75)
used by Philippe Roux Monte 2007,Anders Kjaer Sweden 2007,Pirrelli Tests with Andreucci

chassis 17 :
862 ATN 69
mostly used by P Henry

[Micke_VOC]

chassis 15:
99 AKF 69 (ex-274 PWX 75)
used by Philippe Roux Monte 2007,Anders Kjaer Sweden 2007,Pirrelli Tests with Andreucci

chassis 17 :
862 ATN 69
mostly used by P Henry

Anders Kjaer was useing the car in NORWAY not sweden.

[Alink2]

Can anyone help?

Flavio Castegnaro - what version is his Subaru. Is it N12?

Alain Machard, Laurent Nicolas and Philippe Roux - same question.

Many thanks

[PLuto]

Can anyone help?

Flavio Castegnaro - what version is his Subaru. Is it N12?

Alain Machard, Laurent Nicolas and Philippe Roux - same question.

Many thanks

Roux will use N12b, last year edition was used this car by winner Burri.

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map :

http://planetemarcus.free.fr/montecarlo08.htm

[Tom206wrc]

Disturbing rumour: Delecour wouldn't have enough budget to run the Monte :mark:


Hope it's wrong though :(

[N]

What is weather like up at Col de Turini? Anyone from the area that's been up there lately?

[Karukera]

Today is sunny and hot under direct sunlight, same for Turini.
Drove through the Turini stages a couple of days ago and from what i saw there will probably be little snow on the roads with the usual black ice patches if they haven't melted. They forecast a dry and sunny Sunday in the area.

Full stock of average quality snowballs in the forest above the road. Don't use them !

As for the rest of the rally in the Valence area : possible light showers on Thursday evening, overcast and damp on Friday, dry and partially sunny on Saturday.
Will of course be fine tuned over the days.




Colin Mc Rae (Sco), 1995 World Rally Champion

[N]

Looking at my forecast, I see that it will be dry on Thursday night, Friday light rain, Saturday and Sunday dry. Hopefully, it won't be too wet, I want to get some good photos and don't wanna get my camera wet, :)
This will be my first Monte Carlo, actually, my first tarmac rally, I can't wait for it.

[cosmicpanda]

So no snow again this year?

Bummer, see what it's like in 2010 :/

[Koppomsbo]

how far to drive from nice to valence?

[N]

It's about 3 to 4 hour drive, just under 400km.

[Koppomsbo]

It's about 3 to 4 hour drive, just under 400km.

Someone doing that trip on late friday evening or early saturday morning?? Pm me!!

[N]

We will go on Saturday, after SS14 which starts at 3pm - we are aiming to leave around 5pm, so that we arrive in Nice around 9pm. Why are you going so early?

[c4]

Monte presentation night

See 08 C4 with Pirelli stickers

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9237/pict2637ny5.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/3915/pict2636lp8.jpg

[Tomi]

Nice pics, but why did you not move the blue/yellow trash can so that we could see the cars better?

[pucky54]

Suzuki is still developing the car....so no car this night, just the drivers and big banners ;-)

[c4]

Nice pics, but why did you not move the blue/yellow trash can so that we could see the cars better?

Not my photos, but here is one more


http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1824/pict2651au0.jpg

[consti]

more pics to find here: http://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/wm/galerien/2008/wrc-praesentation/index.html

[A.F.F.]

Not my photos, but here is one more


http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1824/pict2651au0.jpg

Boys are boys. Always kicking the tyres :D

[AndyRAC]

What a shock...

Subaru are Blue, and Citroen are red. Couldn't either team get a major sponsor??

[Glee]

What a shock...

Subaru are Blue, and Citroen are red. Couldn't either team get a major sponsor??


And Henning Solberg and Cato Menkerud is orange...

[White Sauron]

Well, I like seeing Mikko relaxed and sitting on the car) Hope it won't influence suspension settings though :D
PS: and really like the livery of Stobart cars in those flas lights!!

[GigiGalliNo1]

ahhhh citroen have a new bumper/grill

so a new model coming out soon for sale to the public? :D

[Karukera]

What a shock...

Subaru are Blue, and Citroen are red. Couldn't either team get a major sponsor??


They may not want to look like a Kebab.
Sometimes the simplier, the better.




Colin Mc Rae (Sco) 1995 World Rally Champion

[Daniel]

ahhhh citroen have a new bumper/grill

so a new model coming out soon for sale to the public? :D
I don't see a difference between last year's C4 and this year's one.

[GigiGalliNo1]

oh my mistake! thank daniel!

[Roy]

On gigi's car is the blue side left. On the show model of Stobart last week was it right side. I hope Wilson's car is like the show model. From far you could see who drive, because the different of the cars.

[Brother John]

Duval has the green color left side

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee320/WRCKE/IMG_4883.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee320/WRCKE/IMG_48752.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee320/WRCKE/IMG_4869.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee320/WRCKE/IMG_48672.jpg

[Brother John]

And Wilson has blue on the right side. :D

http://rallye-info.com/images/photos/general/StobartFocus3.jpg (http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?stid=6702)

[SubaruNorway]

And Wilson has blue on the right side. :D

http://rallye-info.com/images/photos/general/StobartFocus3.jpg (http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?stid=6702)

Color blind ore something haha ;)

[Daniel]

On gigi's car is the blue side left. On the show model of Stobart last week was it right side. I hope Wilson's car is like the show model. From far you could see who drive, because the different of the cars.
Is it that hard to read Duval or Wilson? :mark:

It's not like a race where there will be two cars of similar livery and you'll be wondering which driver it is.

[Daniel]

oh my mistake! thank daniel!
NP's I was quite curious as to what the difference was :p

[alleskids]

Is it me or is Daniel Elena missing from the group photo?

[MJW]

Is it me or is Daniel Elena missing from the group photo?
I only recognise Loeb, Sordo and Marc Marti from the Citroen team, the 4th Citroen guy? but no Daniel Elena in the photo
.

[SubaruNorway]

I only recognise Loeb, Sordo and Marc Marti from the Citroen team, the 4th Citroen guy? but no Daniel Elena in the photo
.

uhm isen't it him beside Atkinson? http://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/wm/galerien/2008/wrc-praesentation/index.html?tx_gooffotoboek_pi1%5Bfid%5D=5&cHash=fe49a2247f

[White Sauron]

The 4th guy is Daniel Elena! He's just short-haired now. Behind Atko is Gigi Galli.

1 row left to the right:
Phill Mills, Stephan Prevot, Petter Solberg, Chris Atkinson, Daniel Elena, Sebastien Loeb, Mark Marti, Daniel Sordo.
"2" row left to the right: Mikko Hirvonen, Jarmo Lehtinen, Miikka Anttilla, Khalid Al Quassimi, Henning Solberg, Gigi Galli, Giovanni Bernacchini (what a nice guy - talked to him at rally Russia)
"3" row left to the row: Cato Menkerud, Michael Orr, Matthew Wilson, Jari-Matti Latvala, Scott Martin

[Roy]

Is it that hard to read Duval or Wilson? :mark:

It's not like a race where there will be two cars of similar livery and you'll be wondering which driver it is.

Some times you don't know from far who it is. Some photo's on internet are from a big distance and you can't se who it is. Now it is easy to see. Just practical. Off course I can read Structo, Kick or beta andthe names like Gigi, Duval and Wilson. It is just practical. Photographers and filmers know when they have to swith their camera on ;)

[MJW]

If that is Daniel Elena not only has he cut his hair short buy he has lost a few kilos of weight as well. I honestly did not recognise Elena.

[N]

I'm going to the rally tomorrow morning. First I'll stop in Milano for a day and then the rally, I got everything packed, I hope I won't freeze, looks like possible snow/ice. I've been watching the weather forecast and now it's changed to possible rain on saturday and sunday, :(

[KKS]

If that is Daniel Elena not only has he cut his hair short buy he has lost a few kilos of weight as well. I honestly did not recognise Elena.

Looks like that guy same who drive with Loeb at snow test
http://rfy1.free.fr/rfyxor/pageloebgalibier2007/images/021.jpg

[Roy]

What about snow on the stages, is there snow? If yes... where?

[Finni]

What's the weather in Monte?

[Finni]

ah, we had same thought in the same minute. :)

[miksu]

according to Hirvonen, half of the route is dry, and half is wet... no snow, and he is expecting black ice to the first 2 very fast "night stages"... :S

[Tom206wrc]

I can't wait for tomorrow evening !!! Go Cuoq !!! :bounce: :bounce:

[c4]

The cars

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/479369/Photo%20019.jpg

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/479369/Photo%20008.jpg

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/479369/Photo%20004.jpg

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/479369/Photo%20010.jpg

[Langdale Forest]

It will be interesting to see what Duval can do if there is no snow.

[consti]

great livery for rautenbach ;)

seems to really be hard to find some sponsors, maybe some tricks like eddie jordan's would help him getting some coverage and find some sponsors :)

[COD]

Like the livery on that 206 :up:

[Daniel]

great livery for rautenbach ;)

seems to really be hard to find some sponsors, maybe some tricks like eddie jordan's would help him getting some coverage and find some sponsors :)
Conrad doesn't need sponsors.

[A.F.F.]

:bigcry:

Ford looks like a pile of puke novadays.

[pucky54]

Any pics of Henning's car?

[Wasted Talent]

:bigcry:

Ford looks like a pile of puke novadays.

Agree totally. The more I see it, the worse it looks!!

WT

[Roy]

Agree totally. The more I see it, the worse it looks!!

WT

More I watch, I used to it. Ok, nice is a different thing. The lime green bonnet is the most worse of all in combination with red. It is colourfull, that's one thing for sure.
Nice to see a team has so many sponsors. That shows the good organisation of this team.

[pino]

Agree totally. The more I see it, the worse it looks!!

WT

Same here :(

[Daniel]

More I watch, I used to it. Ok, nice is a different thing. The lime green bonnet is the most worse of all in combination with red. It is colourfull, that's one thing for sure.
Nice to see a team has so many sponsors. That shows the good organisation of this team.
I'm sorry but people are reading too much into things without really thinking. Conrad doesn't need sponsors because he has money behind him. Ford needs sponsors because Ford is in financial trouble and can't finance M-Sport to the extent that Citroen does.

[COD]

Conrad doesn't need sponsors.

That is the advantage of being filthy rich :laugh:

[JAM]

:bigcry:

Ford looks like a pile of puke novadays.

yehh... not a big effect that multicolor scheme

[Koppomsbo]

Hello, when does the Shakedown start?

[CABAIO E'LONA]

any information from the shakedown?

[Mitch555]

Shakedown starts in 7 minutes!! That is for the priority 1 drivers (i.e nominated manufacturer entries)

That is from 8:00am to 10:00am (local Monaco time)

Then priority 2 drivers (all non-nominated manufacturer entries i.e. Al Qassimi, H. Solberg, Wilson, Cuoq etc.) and other drivers as well as the priority one drivers can do shakedown from 10am to 12pm :)

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Shakedown starts in 7 minutes!! That is for the priority 1 drivers (i.e nominated manufacturer entries)

That is from 8:00am to 10:00am (local Monaco time)

Then priority 2 drivers (all non-nominated manufacturer entries i.e. Al Qassimi, H. Solberg, Wilson, Cuoq etc.) and other drivers as well as the priority one drivers can do shakedown from 10am to 12pm :)

Very thanks you!

[COVENANT]

Hello to everyone
i wish to have a good championship with close fights and
i hope that subaru will be strong.

does anyone know where or in which site
can we see the split times this year ?
because there is not split section in the new official wrc page

[Mitch555]

The site I used to use was worldrallynews.com but this is inactive now as it was supported by BF Goodrich. I think we might be living without splits but RallyRadio usually talks about splits for the top drivers

[turves]

This was the site I was using last year.

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/index.php

[A.F.F.]

I finally sold my soul to satan and got MTV MAX so I'll be experiencing Monte via television :D

[Roy]

I'm sorry but people are reading too much into things without really thinking. Conrad doesn't need sponsors because he has money behind him. Ford needs sponsors because Ford is in financial trouble and can't finance M-Sport to the extent that Citroen does.

Conrad and Ford is two different things. Teams, goals, drivers, etc are not the same.

[eppel]

Pictures of Delecours 307?

[User]

Delecour doesn't start. Budget problems related.

Any SD results yet? Maybe a bit early, but it's past ten o'clock (GMT+1). But anyway, I expect Duval to be the fastest :D

[Micke_VOC]

From eWRC forum...
"Tak Sordo pokud nebude tech problem,tak Loeba prožene na to dám krk, jsem zvědav na Duvala jako třetí by tam mohl i to druhé,snad mu to výjde!"

Anyone who can translate ?

Sordo, Technical problems ?

[Tomi]

I finally sold my soul to satan and got MTV MAX so I'll be experiencing Monte via television :D

To 24.1.

MTV3 MAX
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 21.00 - 22.30
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 00.00 - 00.30

Pe 25.1.

MTV3 MAX
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 17.15 - 17.45
MM-ralli: Pre Race 21.30 - 21.45
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 21.45 - 22.45
MM-ralli: In Car Special 22.45 - 23.00

La 26.1.

MTV3 MAX
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo (2. es) 08.45 - 09.45
MM-ralli: In Car Special (2. es) 09.45 - 10.00
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 16.05 - 16.35
MM-ralli: Pre Race 21.30 - 21.45
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 21.45 - 22.45
MM-ralli: In Car Special 22.45 - 23.00

Su 27.1.

MTV3 MAX
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo (2. es) 08.35 - 09.35
MM-ralli: In Car Special (2. es) 09.35 - 09.50
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 15.30 - 16.00
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 16.00 - 17.00
MM-ralli: Pre Race 20.00 - 20.15
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 20.15 - 21.15
MM-ralli: In Car Special 21.15 - 21.30
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 22.30 - 23.30

Ma 28.1.

MTV3 MAX
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo (2. es) 10.15 - 11.15
MM-ralli: In Car Special (2. es) 11.15 - 11.30
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo (2. es) 17.00 - 18.00

Busy weekend :)

[noel157]

Anybody know about SS1 St Jean in Royans being cancelled due to the road starting to break up?

[Mitch555]

To 24.1.

MTV3 MAX
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 21.00 - 22.30
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 00.00 - 00.30

Pe 25.1.

MTV3 MAX
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 17.15 - 17.45
MM-ralli: Pre Race 21.30 - 21.45
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 21.45 - 22.45
MM-ralli: In Car Special 22.45 - 23.00

La 26.1.

MTV3 MAX
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo (2. es) 08.45 - 09.45
MM-ralli: In Car Special (2. es) 09.45 - 10.00
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 16.05 - 16.35
MM-ralli: Pre Race 21.30 - 21.45
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 21.45 - 22.45
MM-ralli: In Car Special 22.45 - 23.00

Su 27.1.

MTV3 MAX
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo (2. es) 08.35 - 09.35
MM-ralli: In Car Special (2. es) 09.35 - 09.50
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 15.30 - 16.00
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 16.00 - 17.00
MM-ralli: Pre Race 20.00 - 20.15
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 20.15 - 21.15
MM-ralli: In Car Special 21.15 - 21.30
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 22.30 - 23.30

Ma 28.1.

MTV3 MAX
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo (2. es) 10.15 - 11.15
MM-ralli: In Car Special (2. es) 11.15 - 11.30
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo (2. es) 17.00 - 18.00

Busy weekend :)

And for all the people who don't have MTV (which looks like the best WRC coverage ever!) maybe someone could record perhaps the whole thing and bung it on an uploading site... :) Pretty Please!

I have heard nothing about any roads breaking up! Thats interesting, where did you hear that?

[A.F.F.]

To 24.1.

MTV3 MAX
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 21.00 - 22.30
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 00.00 - 00.30

Pe 25.1.

MTV3 MAX
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 17.15 - 17.45
MM-ralli: Pre Race 21.30 - 21.45
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 21.45 - 22.45
MM-ralli: In Car Special 22.45 - 23.00

La 26.1.

MTV3 MAX
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo (2. es) 08.45 - 09.45
MM-ralli: In Car Special (2. es) 09.45 - 10.00
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 16.05 - 16.35
MM-ralli: Pre Race 21.30 - 21.45
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 21.45 - 22.45
MM-ralli: In Car Special 22.45 - 23.00

Su 27.1.

MTV3 MAX
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo (2. es) 08.35 - 09.35
MM-ralli: In Car Special (2. es) 09.35 - 09.50
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 15.30 - 16.00
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 16.00 - 17.00
MM-ralli: Pre Race 20.00 - 20.15
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 20.15 - 21.15
MM-ralli: In Car Special 21.15 - 21.30
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo 22.30 - 23.30

Ma 28.1.

MTV3 MAX
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo (2. es) 10.15 - 11.15
MM-ralli: In Car Special (2. es) 11.15 - 11.30
MM-ralli: Monte Carlo (2. es) 17.00 - 18.00

Busy weekend :)

I wonder how the timetable looks like when they have again F1 GP at the rallyweekend ?? :D

[Sturla]

Ohhhh, wish I was living in Finland right now :)

Is there any streaming possibilities?

[sp0+]

Any news from the shakedown????

[harriswrc]

http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2008/shakedown_2008.php

Shakedown times

[Audimadgeoff]

Originally Posted by Daniel http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/aria/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=411766#post411766)
Conrad doesn't need sponsors.

That is the advantage of being filthy rich :laugh:

you might be interested to know that, whilst Conrad does have a wealthy family supporting him, there is also cash coming in from other commercial sponsors. However there seems to be a bit of confusion with Citroen about what he can or cannot run on his car. This should all be cleared up in the next round or two.

Oh, and a bit of support chaps, he does work bloody hard at his rallying!

[kabouter]

http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2008/shakedown_2008.php

Shakedown times

Now that's what I call a nice service - I hope more rallies are going to have such complete shakedown times this year.

[MikeD]

http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2008/shakedown_2008.php

Shakedown times

Wow, those times from Suzuki are catastrophic. It looks like it could be a nightmare season for them.

[J.Lindstroem]

Looks like Sordo and Loeb is the fastest. :)

[J.Lindstroem]

Wow, those times from Suzuki are catastrophic. It looks like it could be a nightmare season for them.

Yes. They are like 30 seconds slower on that short stage... i can't understand where they dont find that speed!

[Xsara Fan]

The best 'passage' ;)
1. SORDO (ESP) 2:25.2
2. LOEB (FRA) 2:25.5
3. P.SOLBERG (NOR) 2:26.2
4. DUVAL (BEL) 2:26.3
5. ATKINSON (AUS) 2:27.0
6. HIRVONEN (FIN) 2:27.2
7. LATVALA (FIN) 2:27.9
8. GALLI (ITA) 2:28.2
9. WILSON (GBR) 2:29.3
10. H.SOLBERG (NOR) 2:30.1
11. AL QASSIMI (ARE) 2:33.4
12. GARDEMEISTER (FIN) 2:34.9
13. RAUTENBACH (ZWE) 2:35.6
14. CUOQ (FRA) 2:40.3
15. ANDERSSON (SWE) 2:42.5

[Donney]

Looks like the same old story with asphalt rallies and the Citroen drivers.

[Xsara Fan]

Citroen`s & Subaru`s are flying. But Ford`s not. Strange....
Suzuki & Rautenbach - I think Conrad must beat Suzuki WRT.

[kabouter]

I did the same list as Xsara Fan, but including cars, and number of runs:

1 Dani Sordo (Citroën) 2.25,2 (3/3)
2 Sébastien Loeb (Citroën) 2.25,5 (3/3)
3 Petter Solberg (Subaru) 2.26,2 (3/3)
4 François Duval (Ford) 2.26,3 (4/4)
5 Chris Atkinson (Subaru) 2.27,0 (4/4)
6 Mikko Hirvonen (Ford) 2.27,2 (4/4)
7 Jari-Matti Latvala (Ford) 2.27,9 (4/4)
8 Gigi Galli (Ford) 2.28,2 (5/5)
9 Matthew Wilson (Ford) 2.29,3 (4/5)
10 Henning Solberg (Ford) 2.30,1 (3/4)
11 Khalid Al-Qassimi (Ford) 2.33,4 (3/4)
12 Toni Gardemeister (Suzuki) 2.34,9 (3/3)
13 Conrad Rautenbach (Citroën) 2.35,6 (3/4)
14 Jean-Marie Cuoq (Peugeot) 2.40,3 (1/1)
15 Per-Gunnar Andersson (Suzuki) 2.42,5 (2/3)

[Micke_VOC]

Full Shake-Down list:
http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2008/shakedown_2008.php

[J.Lindstroem]

and yeah, Duval looks great. Hope he can beat Galli big time on this rally, id like to see him more this season!

[User]

Take a look at this picture:
http://www.pitstoptv.info/pitstop/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/monte4_800x519shkl.jpg

It looks like Malcom is fully trusting Duval :D

[Leon]

checking the shakedown results I was wondering what will happen if Sordo is faster than Loeb? It is the first event of the calendar, so do you think the new Citroen manager will let him beat Seb?

[pino]

checking the shakedown results I was wondering what will happen if Sordo is faster than Loeb? It is the first event of the calendar, so do you think the new Citroen manager will let him beat Seb?

This is only the shakedown, no chance for Sordo to beat Loeb when the Rally starts ;)

[Viking]

Not putting to much in SD-times, but last year Mikko was fastest.
Is he struggling with setup or starting to feel the pressure?

[Leon]

This is only the shakedown, no chance for Sordo to beat Loeb when the Rally starts ;)

My comment has nothing to do with the shakedown results.

Also, don´t forget that in 2006 we were thinking the same but he went off.

[Brother John]

Not putting to much in SD-times, but last year Mikko was fastest.
Is he struggling with setup or starting to feel the pressure?

He will listen to Wilson or do the same such as Grönholm did. SD time are not that important, because Grönholm had seldom best time in SD! :s mokin:

[Viking]

He will listen to Wilson or do the same such as Grönholm did. SD time are not that important, because Grönholm had seldom best time in SD! :s mokin:

Yes, but Grönholm also used to do only 2 runs if he felt setup was ok.

[miksu]

any pics yet from shakedown?

[Josti]

My comment has nothing to do with the shakedown results.

Also, don´t forget that in 2006 we were thinking the same but he went off.

Yes, when snow still played a part. In dry conditions Loeb is hardly beatable, if not at all. Only hope could be Duval, since Sordo, as Pino said, probably get's teamorders on his hand.

[N.O.T]

Suzuki made a wrong car choice for the WRC and it shows.....

[Viking]

Sordo dont like driving on snow, or so he said on Rally Norway.
Only rallydriver who dont like it that i have heard of... :D

[Finni]

I expect that Duval beats other Ford drivers. Duval belongs to masterclass in Monte and Germany and is fast to adapt new car.

[A.F.F.]

Suzuki made a wrong car choice for the WRC and it shows.....

It's the drivers.

[Tom206wrc]

Any news if SS1 cancelled or not ??? :confused:

All I read on french forums are rumours only for now... :mark:

[miksu]

I expect that Duval beats other Ford drivers. Duval belongs to masterclass in Monte and Germany and is fast to adapt new car.

well yeah...there isnt really anyone to challenge him inside ford team on tarmac...

[cut the b.s.]

well yeah...there isnt really anyone to challenge him inside ford team on tarmac...


Only Malcolm.......

[Viking]

:eek: http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2008/shakedown_2008.php

Gigi did 9 runs on shakedown... didnt anybody tell him that he has to use the same car in the rally :D

[miksu]

Only Malcolm.......

thats true :) )

[turves]

Sutton Photographic have some shakedown pictures (not many though)

http://www.sutton-images.com/

It was very windy, judging by Hennings hair :laugh:

[Fischer]

Can you people stop jumping to conclusions regarding Suzuki, the first rally of the year isn't even over and already you people say Suzuki's season is a disaster.

[turves]

...and Garde and P-G look like gnomes from my Grans garden :laugh:

[N.O.T]

It's the drivers.

check gardes results in previous Monte rallies then i might accept your apology..... :D

[miksu]

Can you people stop jumping to conclusions regarding Suzuki, the first rally of the year isn't even over and already you people say Suzuki's season is a disaster.

hasnt even started really :D

[A.F.F.]

check gardes results in previous Monte rallies then i might accept your apology..... :D

I don't apologize from racists.

[Roy]

Can you people stop jumping to conclusions regarding Suzuki, the first rally of the year isn't even over and already you people say Suzuki's season is a disaster.

If your goal to score some points you need good times only it is shakedown. The season is not over yet, but these times are really bad.

I was fear of this. I know how Japanese business works. Once I works for Asics. Only Japanese people in the important jobs and don't have critism them. No, they know it better.
Suzuki the same. Quit all the European people and go further with their people. The nationalism is more important... not the knowledge of the people.

[kabouter]

Shakedown times (updated):

1 Dani Sordo (Citroën) 2.25,0 (4/4)
2 Sébastien Loeb (Citroën) 2.25,5 (3/4)
3 Petter Solberg (Subaru) 2.26,2 (3/5)
4 François Duval (Ford) 2.26,3 (4/5)
5 Chris Atkinson (Subaru) 2.27,0 (4/5)
6 Mikko Hirvonen (Ford) 2.27,2 (4/4)
7 Jari-Matti Latvala (Ford) 2.27,9 (4/6)
8 Gigi Galli (Ford) 2.28,2 (5/9)
9 Matthew Wilson (Ford) 2.29,3 (4/6)
10 Henning Solberg (Ford) 2.30,1 (3/7)
11 Khalid Al-Qassimi (Ford) 2.33,4 (3/5)
12 Toni Gardemeister (Suzuki) 2.34,9 (3/6)
13 Conrad Rautenbach (Citroën) 2.35,3 (7/7)
14 Jean-Marie Cuoq (Peugeot) 2.37,3 (1/2)
15 Per-Gunnar Andersson (Suzuki) 2.38,7 (4/6)

[tannat]

No time for Delecour, or perhaps he is out of the top 16 :(

[Brother John]

Galery from Rallye magazin.de

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/wm/galerien/2008/rallye-monte-carlo/index.htmlhttp://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/wm/d/n/d/2008/01/24/dani-sordo-setzt-bestzeit/r/wm/galerien/2008/rallye-monte-carlo/index.html

[Tom206wrc]

Terrible time from Cuoq :mark: but it's only shakedown so let's have hope :rolleyes:


About SS1, from what I've recently read, no cancellation planned ;)

[tannat]

Can you people stop jumping to conclusions regarding Suzuki, the first rally of the year isn't even over and already you people say Suzuki's season is a disaster.


They are being wise...

Nothing to win today except (worthless) media points.....

[Tom206wrc]

No time for Delecour, or perhaps he is out of the top 16 :(



He's forfait because not enough budget to race :(

[tannat]

He's forfait because not enough budget to race :(


That saddens me..

Thanks, Tom206WRC :up:

[Magnus]

Great time by pg!
:s
No time for Bosse...problems...?
:(