Monte Carlo 2008

[kabouter]

Why only music and not interviews from the stage on that ****ty rally radio...

Don't you like INXS? ;)

Suzuki is suspecting a "sensor problem" for Gardemeister (as reported on rally radio). He's in for a very frustrating day...

[Daniel]

Why only music and not interviews from the stage on that ****ty rally radio...

Because it's ****!!!!! When will people accept that rally radio is rubbish? :mark:

[kabouter]

On Pitstop.tv he said he had no big expectations because he feared the stages on thursday evening. Also expected to loose some time on fridays and saturdays stages because he doens't know them... ? Didn't he ride this stages before? :confused:

Welcome to the forum :)

No, he didn't compete on the Monte last year (budget problems) and these stages hadn't been used for about 10 years before then, when Duval was still riding a bicycle instead of driving rally cars ;)

[Micke_VOC]

no time for PG )=
or are PG starting behind Wilson ?
(becasue the time penalty) ?

[A.F.F.]

They Doesn*t Woooooorkkkk Becks !!!!!!!!!!

[jonas_mcrae]

thanks AFF and Pluto
those Czechs really now how to make rally sites!, although I dont understand anything that is written LOL

[Mirek]

Khalid Al "Casino" is definitely nice surprise of the rally :)

[kabouter]

They Doesn*t Woooooorkkkk Becks !!!!!!!!!!

I had to stop myself from shouting exactly the same. The other student I'm sharing a room with at university would probably have looked at me in a very strange way if I did though.

[Micke_VOC]

no time for PG )=
or are PG starting behind Wilson ?
(because the time penalty) ?

Looked upp the restart-list and PG is car number 14 , after Wilson and Henning...
=)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Internet coverage from wrc.com is really a big sh**

After some years following rallys with splits... now... we don't have split's.. isn't the same think... there is no funny anymore :(

[A.F.F.]

thanks AFF
those Czechs really now how to make rally sites!, although I dont understand anything that is written LOL

Me neither :laugh:

But it works fine.

[A.F.F.]

I had to stop myself from shouting exactly the same. The other student I'm sharing a room with at university would probably have looked at me in a very strange way if I did though.

I sent her more email about the splits. Jeez......

[AndyRAC]

Because it's ****!!!!! When will people accept that rally radio is rubbish? :mark:

Anybody hear Globecast Radio's coverage of Rally GB? Now that is how to cover a Rally, not this *****!!! They're meant to be promoting the sport - c'mon this is pants!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Sturla]

What is so special about the last stage, suddenly all the drivers are not far behind the Citroens... Also suddenly Henning got a good time compared to earlier in the rally???

[Micke_VOC]

http://www.wrc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/StageTimes/0,,10111~2008124,00.html

For them who like the "Old style" results from Wrc.com !!

[kabouter]

http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky

I also use that one, quick and complete, even though the Czech comments are a bit too difficult for me - vysledky is about the only Czech word I know. But can you have Couq corrected to Cuoq? ;)

[kabouter]

What is so special about the last stage, suddenly all the drivers are not far behind the Citroens... Also suddenly Henning got a good time compared to earlier in the rally???

It was the shortest stage of the rally so far. The loss of time to Sordo of most drivers is similar per km to the previous stage. But Henning sure had his best stage of the rally.

[A.F.F.]

But can you have Couq corrected to Cuoq? ;)


I think you mean Cock. It was cleared yesterday by the all knowing rally radio. :)

[pino]

What a crappy coverage we get from wrc.com :down: :mad:

[Daniel]

Anybody hear Globecast Radio's coverage of Rally GB? Now that is how to cover a Rally, not this *****!!! They're meant to be promoting the sport - c'mon this is pants!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Funny everytime I start a thread about how crap Rally Radio is I get everyone telling me how great it is :)

[A.F.F.]

Great :s

Again, the splits work all right.

AFTER the stage is finished :rolleyes:

[pino]

Funny everytime I start a thread about how crap Rally Radio is I get everyone telling me how great it is :)

Last year it was great, except for the music :p :

[PLuto]

I also use that one, quick and complete, even though the Czech comments are a bit too difficult for me - vysledky is about the only Czech word I know. But can you have Couq corrected to Cuoq? ;)

Thanks ;)

If you need translate something from czech to english, you can ask :p :

[Mirek]

Kaboteur: Keying mistake, Pluto fixed it, thanks ;)

[Koppomsbo]

Seb finished ss5

[euskalteam]

Sordo 5 secs behind Loeb on the stage. +23 overall

[kabouter]

Broccoli is again the fastest non-WRC on SS4. Looks like he's still able to keep up his pace without turning into a vegetable ;)

[kabouter]

]Kaboteur: Keying mistake, Pluto fixed it, thanks ;)

No problem, Mirek Firc ;) And thank you for the excellent online results service.

[Mirek]

Broccoli is again the fastest non-WRC on SS4. Looks like he's still able to keep up his pace without turning into a vegetable ;)

Another 15 chances remains :D :s mokin:

[Daniel]

What a crappy coverage we get from wrc.com :down: :mad:

That's because WRC.com is made for everyn00b and not rally fans. We still have to put up with that patronising fool Paul King explaining the most basic of things on WRC coverage rather than just getting on with his job.

The people who do the rally radio haven't been following rallying for 10,15,20,30 years. Most simply started following the WRC when they started covering it so they don't know what people on the outside actually want.

Like I said. Give Pino, RB and J4mie their jobs and we'd have very good rally radio. Put Pino in charge of music and it'll be even better :)

[pino]

Broccoli is again the fastest non-WRC on SS4. Looks like he's still able to keep up his pace without turning into a vegetable ;)

...and almost as fast as Garde :s

[kabouter]

That's because WRC.com is made for everyn00b and not rally fans. We still have to put up with that patronising fool Paul King explaining the most basic of things on WRC coverage rather than just getting on with his job.

The people who do the rally radio haven't been following rallying for 10,15,20,30 years. Most simply started following the WRC when they started covering it so they don't know what people on the outside actually want.

Like I said. Give Pino, RB and J4mie their jobs and we'd have very good rally radio. Put Pino in charge of music and it'll be even better :)
J4mie would doubtlessly be an excellent crazy Scotsman to do the interviews (and annoy some marshals in the process), but who would have to wear Becks' make-up???

[Mirek]

Kaboteur: I don't work on results... don't thank me.

[A.F.F.]

Like I said. Give Pino, RB and J4mie their jobs and we'd have very good rally radio. Put Pino in charge of music and it'll be even better :)


And what, Jamie to the end of the stage ?? You know that he would never get there, because of the marshalls.

I'm sorry to say your idea sank.

[pino]

J4mie would doubtlessly be an excellent crazy Scotsman to do the interviews (and annoy some marshals in the process), but who would have to wear Becks' make-up???

RallyBasher :p :

[Daniel]

J4mie would doubtlessly be an excellent crazy Scotsman to do the interviews (and annoy some marshals in the process), but who would have to wear Becks' make-up???

Just as long as he doesn't kiss me like Becs did :p

I forgot to mention that if Pino, J4mie and RB (I refuse to call him PuddleJumper :p ) got the job you'd need an FRM member as well to keep Pino's Gigiism under control ;)

[Koppomsbo]

Broccoli is again the fastest non-WRC on SS4. Looks like he's still able to keep up his pace without turning into a vegetable ;)


Well maybe he already is :D

broccoli...

[AndyRAC]

That's because WRC.com is made for everyn00b and not rally fans. We still have to put up with that patronising fool Paul King explaining the most basic of things on WRC coverage rather than just getting on with his job.

The people who do the rally radio haven't been following rallying for 10,15,20,30 years. Most simply started following the WRC when they started covering it so they don't know what people on the outside actually want.

Like I said. Give Pino, RB and J4mie their jobs and we'd have very good rally radio. Put Pino in charge of music and it'll be even better :)

Get Mark James, he knows what he's talking about! It was great to hear him on Rally GB. These clowns are a joke.....

[Halvis]

It was the shortest stage of the rally so far. The loss of time to Sordo of most drivers is similar per km to the previous stage. But Henning sure had his best stage of the rally.

Yes, maybe Henning is getting more to grips with the car. Almost as fast as Gigi - not too bad actually. He said so in his blogg, today would be better.

[Daniel]

Yes, maybe Henning is getting more to grips with the car. Almost as fast as Gigi - not too bad actually. He said so in his blogg, today would be better.
Almost as fast as Gigi :)

Like saying "Almost as beautiful as Sarah Jessica Parker" :p

Good to see the Subaru's doing well for once :)

[kabouter]

]Kaboteur: I don't work on results... don't thank me.

Ok, then I don't thank you but the people responsible for the results :)

Message to PLuto then: Duval's codriver is Chevaillier...

[pino]

Gigi faster than Duval on stage 5 :bounce: :D

[Halvis]

Almost as fast as Gigi :)

Like saying "Almost as beautiful as Sarah Jessica Parker" :p

Good to see the Subaru's doing well for once :)

:s mile:

[A.F.F.]

Cheers Becks :bounce:

I love you.

Marry me !!!!!!!!!

[Daniel]

Get Mark James, he knows what he's talking about! It was great to hear him on Rally GB. These clowns are a joke.....

Yup. To me he's the David Attenborough of Rallying :) Doesn't need to act like a fool or anything. Just does what's needed and does it right.

[kabouter]

Gigi faster than Duval on stage 5 :bounce: :D

That's one happy Pino for sure :D

Well, well, Becks is apologizing to us. She must have received loads of e-mail from A.F.F. ;)

[kabouter]

Cheers Becks :bounce:

I love you.

Marry me !!!!!!!!!
Are you sure your wife isn't reading the forum?

[MikeD]

What a crappy coverage we get from wrc.com :down: :mad:

I hope you could hear that I mailed Becks half an hour ago with the fact that the splits aren't working. She has just said on WRR that she will pass the info to somebody who will correct it (hopefully).

[pino]

Almost as fast as Gigi :)

Like saying "Almost as beautiful as Sarah Jessica Parker" :p



Hey :mad:

[pino]

I hope you could hear that I mailed Becks half an hour ago with the fact that the splits aren't working. She has just said on WRR that she will pass the info to somebody who will correct it (hopefully).

Mange tak ;)

[Daniel]

Hey :mad:
I take it back :) Gigi isn't dog ugly ;)

[A.F.F.]

Are you sure your wife isn't reading the forum?

Things are changed tjeerd. I'm sponsored by Abu Dhabi this year so I'm allowed to multi marry :)

[J.Lindstroem]

That's one happy Pino for sure :D

Well, well, Becks is apologizing to us. She must have received loads of e-mail from A.F.F. ;)

Becks-"Please don't send any more messages"

[A.F.F.]

I hope you could hear that I mailed Becks half an hour ago with the fact that the splits aren't working. She has just said on WRR that she will pass the info to somebody who will correct it (hopefully).

I think dozen of us did the same Mike ;)

[Daniel]

Things are changed tjeerd. I'm sponsored by Abu Dhabi this year so I'm allowed to multi marry :)
LOL :rotflmao:

[Sturla]

Almost as fast as Gigi :)

Like saying "Almost as beautiful as Sarah Jessica Parker" :p

Good to see the Subaru's doing well for once :)

Haha :)

Very nice to see that Subaru delivers good times on all the stages, not only one good time out of 8 stages :) Maybe they finally found the mystic problem from last year, hope so.

By the way, norwegian youngster Mads Østberg tested the s12 this week, and told that it was a huge improvment over the s10 he drove last year...

[J.Lindstroem]

OK now i want the time for PG Andersson!!

[MikeD]

I think dozen of us did the same Mike ;)

Ups... sorry ;) Of course.

[Daniel]

Is Colin drunk?

[J.Lindstroem]

Is Colin drunk?

it really sounds like that... "was that PG? Yes it was PG! PG, Toni, PG, Toni, PG, Toni..................."

[Daniel]

it really sounds like that... "was that PG? Yes it was PG! PG, Toni, PG, Toni, PG, Toni..................."
Yup.

It's great to know what sort of gloves/mittens Becs and Colin have :rolleyes:

[J.Lindstroem]

I just want to add that PG is +25.8 of Loeb and he stalled the engline at the start, loosing 10 seconds. Slight gearshift problems also...

I'd say that this is a quite decent debut for Suzuki... Not a catastroph anyway!

[J.Lindstroem]

Yup.

It's great to know what sort of gloves/mittens Becs and Colin have :rolleyes:

they have nothing else to say since Seb is dominating to much...

[kabouter]

If Latvala doesn't make any big mistakes, he'll be back in the top 10 by the end of the day.

I don't know what was in that baguette Colin had before the stage, but he sounds like it wasn't just cheese...

[Mauri A]

So friends, it´s -17C and 20 cms fresh snow outside. Time to start my snow-thrower.
By the way, Arctic Rally has just started, Fast-Jussi leading after 5 cars finished 1st stage.

[A.F.F.]

Some progress in rally radio. Jean Marie Cock is Jean Marie Cook today :up:

[Micke_VOC]

So friends, it´s -17C and 20 cms fresh snow outside. Time to start my snow-thrower.
By the way, Arctic Rally has just started, Fast-Jussi leading after 5 cars finished 1st stage.

Were can u find the results ?

I´m looking on http://www.arcticrally.fi/tulokset.html and not uppdated there yet..

Sorry for the OT...

[Daniel]

they have nothing else to say since Seb is dominating to much...
If there's nothing to say they could just play some of their great music :)

[kabouter]

Some progress in rally radio. Jean Marie Cock is Jean Marie Cook today :up:

Improvements all around. Now a working splits page, a fastest time for a non-Citroën, and all will be well with the world. :)

[kabouter]

If there's nothing to say they could just play some of their great music :)

Poor Daniel, you have become cynical. That's what Loeb-domination can do to people... Maybe you should go see a psychologist. ;)

[A.F.F.]

Improvements all around. Now a working splits page, a fastest time for a non-Citroën, and all will be well with the world. :)

I'm afraid it's easier to get a top time to non-Citroen than working splits but hey, let's be positive :)

[kabouter]

I'm afraid it's easier to get a top time to non-Citroen than working splits but hey, let's be positive :)

If both Loeb and Sordo have a puncture perhaps, but that's indeed more likely than working splits. I'd even say that Becks marrying you is more likely than working splits today.

[Frozzy]

is atkinson in 4th or 5th?

[kabouter]

is atkinson in 4th or 5th?

In 4th, he's 6,5 seconds ahead of Duval: http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/

[Frozzy]

:bounce: :rotflmao: nice one hopefully Subaru will be involed in the scrap for winning this years constructors championship

[N.O.T]

Are the suzukis running these last 2 stages problems free ???

[Daniel]

Poor Daniel, you have become cynical. That's what Loeb-domination can do to people... Maybe you should go see a psychologist. ;)
Loeb Domination? > http://www.gothic.org.au/forum/images/smilies/whip.gif

I'm not into that sort of stuff :p

[Frozzy]

you never know maybe loeb will have an accident this after noon

[miksu]

Are the suzukis running these last 2 stages problems free ???

dream on ;) lets hope we will see some improvement after service

[tmx]

:bounce: :rotflmao: nice one hopefully Subaru will be involed in the scrap for winning this years constructors championship

it's not a surpise, he was 4th last year.

[N.O.T]

Brocolli and Mercier are doing a fantastic job.....

[miksu]

latvala changing tyre :S poor guy

http://nettitv.mtv3.fi/maksuttomat/index.shtml/maksuttomat/ralli/ralli?121244#121244

[J.Lindstroem]

Are the suzukis running these last 2 stages problems free ???

I only know that PG had some problems with his gear shifter and that he stalled the engine at the start of stage 5. For Toni i don't know, but for sure he didnt sound happy when Colin spoke to him on the radio!

[A.F.F.]

If both Loeb and Sordo have a puncture perhaps, but that's indeed more likely than working splits. I'd even say that Becks marrying you is more likely than working splits today.

Hey.

Everybody knows I'm a catch.

[malscar]

Hey.

Everybody knows I'm a catch.

What, like on a gate? Well used but still squeaks? ;)

[J.Lindstroem]

Hey.

Everybody knows I'm a catch.

Can you re-type that, i can't read it.

[Daniel]

Hey.

Everybody knows I'm a catch.
You have my number if things ever don't work out AFF ;)

[MikeD]

Hey.

Everybody knows I'm a catch.

Problem for you is that Becks isn't :rotflmao:

[Viking]

latvala changing tyre :S poor guy

http://nettitv.mtv3.fi/maksuttomat/index.shtml/maksuttomat/ralli/ralli?121244#121244

Oops i see some stupid guy trying to help him... Calling FIA now, he is out! :D

[Magnus]

Bosse +1.00.18.8 so far
:(

[J.Lindstroem]

Oops i see some stupid guy trying to help him... Calling FIA now, he is out! :D

You see that guy in that red clothes? When he claps his hands like that it is really disturbing, is i was Latvala i whould not been able of hold myself from punching him in his ugly face.

I hate people who act like that.

[J.Lindstroem]

Bosse +1.00.18.8 so far
:(


Yeah. But he'll take that time in tomorrow. As the true gentleman he is he's giving Loeb a little time to play on first.

[Brother John]

Things are changed tjeerd. I'm sponsored by Abu Dhabi this year so I'm allowed to multi marry :)

Good to know that you have a sponsor! Do you need my bank account? I still wait for my part of that money! :D

[AndyRAC]

Bosse +1.00.18.8 so far
:(

Mmm, Not only are we missing his driving, it's those great after stage interviews, " Ooh, Eeh, Okay, Tell Corrado we only need 3 gears..."

[Frozzy]

:confused: i never understand who bosse is

[Viking]

You see that guy in that red clothes? When he claps his hands like that it is really disturbing, is i was Latvala i whould not been able of hold myself from punching him in his ugly face.

I hate people who act like that.

I remember the insident in Safari when Tommi said he had to shoot them if to get them away from the car. :)

[kabouter]

Let's have a look at the non-WRCars competitors.

Class A7 after SS 5:
1 Alex Broccoli (Renault Clio R3) 1:09.15,7
2 Eddie Mercier (Renault Clio Sport) +1.43,0
3 Luca Betti (Honda Civic Type-R) +2.27,2
Question: is the Clio Sport another name for the R3 or is it a different car?)

Group N after SS 5:
1 Olivier Burri (Subaru Impreza WRX STI) 1:09.27,6
2 Patrick Artru (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9) +36,6
3 Ludovic Cluzel (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9) +1.44,5

[Donney]

:confused: i never understand who bosse is

Gronholm

[Roy]

latvala changing tyre :S poor guy

http://nettitv.mtv3.fi/maksuttomat/index.shtml/maksuttomat/ralli/ralli?121244#121244

oeh. what an idiot in the red. Citroenfan I think. I loose my patience with that man. Argh. Who dumb can you be.

[Tazz]

Could the R3's being so quick be because of tyres?

[Frozzy]

oeh. what an idiot in the red. Citroenfan I think. I loose my patience with that man. Argh. Who dumb can you be.
maybe its a plan by citroen to sabotage Fords chances of winning a third constuctors championship :p :

[Tom206wrc]

Great, Jean-Marie C - U - O- Q (I need to spell for miss Becks)is 8th overall after SS5 :bounce:


But damn, still more than one hour to wait before SS6 starts :mad:

[J4MIE]

Oops i see some stupid guy trying to help him... Calling FIA now, he is out! :D

Yes I would have thumped the guy, on film or not :mad:

The nut gun should have some sort of light attached to it, think that would be useful. Of course, you have to charge it up...

[kabouter]

Great, Jean-Marie C - U - O- Q (I need to spell for miss Becks)is 8th overall after SS5 :bounce:


But damn, still more than one hour to wait before SS6 starts :mad:

Yes, mister Cook/Cock/Cuoq is doing well on his home stages ;) A championship point is a real possibility.

J4mie, would you really have thumped him even if he's not a marshal?

[Audimadgeoff]

Yes, mister Cook/Cock/Cuoq is doing well on his home stages ;) A championship point is a real possibility.

J4mie, would you really have thumped him even if he's not a marshal? :p : Brilliant

[Tom206wrc]

Not bad neither for Romeyer in the "prehistoric" 206 WRC :p :

Even if his 9th position overall is clearly and seriously threaten by 5 or 6 drivers behind... :mark:

[consti]

short prediction for the next stages.

SS6 St. Pierreville - Col de la Fayolle 2 - 29,52 km - 14:51:

the suzukis won't have a problem and will overtake wilson and henning and quassimi. but latvala will be much faster and take all four of them and romeyer. so at the end of the stage he'll be found on the ninth place

SS7 Burzet - Lachamp Raphael 2 - 16,30 km - 16:29:

now the suzukis will have problems, maybe gardes suzuki will fall into pieces (i think the motor will show to all of us what it is doing inside). pgs suzuki will have electronic troubles. latvala will crash into a wall but continue (loosing a lot of time, at least two minutes). duval will spin but catch atkinson.

SS8 St. Martial - Le Chambon - Beleac 2 - 12,66 km - 17:15:

now duval will loose some time (because it's dark) and fall behind atkinson again. i can see a blue car with some troubes, maybe its name is startin with an "s" just like the drivers name). latvala still loosing some time because of his fault in the stage before and because of the dark.
new uspectacular driving style of galli leads him to secure seventh place overall today...

[User]

:D Nice prediction.

But that won't happen.

[Magnus]

Hmm... Consti... you know consti in swedsih has abt the same spelling as the swedish word for "strange" ;)
Interesting predictions though...

[consti]

Hmm... Consti... you know consti in swedsih has abt the same spelling as the swedish word for "strange" ;)
Interesting predictions though...
the prediction should be treated like a weather forecast

i'm sorry i really have to learn some pr-stuff for university but it's so easy to distract myself

[J4MIE]

J4mie, would you really have thumped him even if he's not a marshal?

My talent doesn't just lie in thumping marshals you know ;) :p :

[A.F.F.]

You have my number if things ever don't work out AFF ;)

I've got it ever since we came back from Brokeback mountain. :s ailor:

[A.F.F.]

I remember the insident in Safari when Tommi said he had to shoot them if to get them away from the car. :)

Yep. And he got a reprimand from our cultural minister for that comment. Stupid lady who probably had never even watched a rally tried to shine her political shield.

[Artep]

....you're all keeping me sane at work today....... :D

[MikeD]

Romeyer looks to have a fair chance of scoring a point this weekend. If he does there is a good chance it will be the final point for the Pug 206 ever.

[sp0+]

Am i the only one here that feels that the "problem" with the splits is done on purpose.....??....???...

[N.O.T]

without all the problems the suzukis would be in 9th and 10th place....not bad...however i doubt they will ever manage to be close to the subarus at least this year...

[Brother John]

Am i the only one here that feels that the "problem" with the splits is done on purpose.....??....???...

No, your not the only one. ;)

[Finni]

Am i the only one here that feels that the "problem" with the splits is done on purpose.....??....???...

I am not far from your tought brother..

[kleisj]

Hi all! I wish that we have a nice and competitive season.
Montecarlo up to now show the opposite though....!

[consti]

there is a conspiracy in each of us ;)

please tell me witch mafia is it this time? the number-and-alphabet-mafia? that tries to secure the unguilty letters?

[N.O.T]

next stage is on....no splits....is wrc.com going to have live splits for the rest of the season? or we are back to the old days ???

[Tom206wrc]

SS6 is running at last :up:

[Finni]

What's wrong with Duval. I thought that is ace on asphalt and Hirvonen and Grönholm were dogs. At least this was the opinion of some forumers last year when rally Germany was driven.

[AndyRAC]

Here in UK, in todays papers have lots of F1 Testing articles,...Monte Carlo Rally gets a line or 2. Hmmm....the level of ignorance is quite shocking!!! The F1A should insist that journalists cover both championships, or they don't get accreditation. Yeah, cloud cuckoo land I know.

[kabouter]

next stage is on....no splits....is wrc.com going to have live splits for the rest of the season? or we are back to the old days ???

Wasn't everything better in the old days? ;)

They're even playing Blur on rally radio - I'm starting to enjoy myself :)

[N.O.T]

What's wrong with Duval. I thought that is ace on asphalt and Hirvonen and Grönholm were dogs. At least this was the opinion of some forumers last year when rally Germany was driven.

sick dogs....my guess is that duval doesn't want to blow his chances once more like when he was at citroen...he is fastest of the Stobart boys ...my guess is he will attack in more familiar territory.

[sp0+]

It is such a pitty not to have the splits....It's not the same...Let's hope that this will not last for the whole rest of the championship.....

[MikeD]

without all the problems the suzukis would be in 9th and 10th place....not bad...however i doubt they will ever manage to be close to the subarus at least this year...

Honestly, this is only due to the few WRC cars for this event. It's the time diff. that's really poor. They are - after 5 stages - close to 6 min. behind. I hope for Suzuki that most of this time loss is down to mecanical problems.

[kleisj]

Citroen crews have vanished all the rest....!http://img115.exs.cx/img115/8895/signquestion3xd.gif

[A.F.F.]

Oh, the splits are coming there at the service park? Please don't email about it us though, yours truly, rally radio :)

[A.F.F.]

Hey kleisj :wave:

[Wimanna]

How much faster than Chris was Francois at the splits at the moment? I just missed that one...

[kabouter]

I thought it was the other way round, Chris a little faster than François - but I wasn't fully paying attention either...

[N.O.T]

Loeb finished the stage 13 seconds faster than this morning....

[AndyRAC]

Doh, wrc.com are reporting that the Pirelli tyres have made a good start - er, that's not hard, they're not competing against anybody.Such dumb reporting,- give me strength!!

[Integrale]

What's wrong with Duval. I thought that is ace on asphalt and Hirvonen and Grönholm were dogs. At least this was the opinion of some forumers last year when rally Germany was driven.
He had to drive the opening two stages without ouvreurs, so it's pretty normal he didn't attack when he had no idea how the road conditions were. 4th is the highest he can reach anyway, no way papa Wilson will allow Duval to pass Hirvonen.

[kabouter]

Problems for Sordo? Dropping time on the last splits and stopping after the stage - no comments to Colin on air though.

[A.F.F.]

Sordo having problems.... that's new.

[Scrap_Iron]

Yep. And he got a reprimand from our cultural minister for that comment. Stupid lady who probably had never even watched a rally tried to shine her political shield.
:grenade: Was Tommi suitably chastised or did he politely tell her to get stuffed?

[MikeD]

-

[kabouter]

Hirvonen lost exactly the same amount of time to Loeb on this stage as on the first run this morning (10,1 s)

[Finni]

He had to drive the opening two stages without ouvreurs, so it's pretty normal he didn't attack when he had no idea how the road conditions were. 4th is the highest he can reach anyway, no way papa Wilson will allow Duval to pass Hirvonen.

Oh, he just came to cruise over. And is bound to battle with Atkinson because he don't want to threaten Mikko. Keep up.

[A.F.F.]

:grenade: Was Tommi suitably chastised or did he politely tell her to get stuffed?

The latter one :)

[kabouter]

Duval quicker than Mikko on this stage, closing in on Atkinson. He's getting to know the stages :D

[MikeD]

YES!!! Duval is finally showing his tarmac speed with the second fastest time

[Wimanna]

Duval 31 sec faster than this morning!!!

[kleisj]

Hey kleisj :wave:

http://www.chins-n-quills.com/forums/images/smilies/hello3.gif A.F.F. !!! http://www.comicguide.net/images/smilies/hut.gif

[Mirek]

But Colin said Duval's tyres were very weared...

[Integrale]

Oh, he just came to cruise over. And is bound to battle with Atkinson because he don't want to threaten Mikko. Keep up.
Hmm I guess looking at stage 6 you should keep up. ;)

[kabouter]

Duval was 1 s/km quicker the second time around. If he does that on the next two stages as well, he'll be up there with the best non-Loebs on those stages as well.

[MikeD]

]But Colin said Duval's tyres were very weared...

No, he just said they were scrubed. That's not the same!!!

[A.F.F.]

non-Loebs :laugh: :up:

[Finni]

Hmm I guess looking at stage 6 you should keep up. ;)

I have just asked what's wrong with Dudu if he is way superior to Hirvonen and even Marcus as many has said. Let's see how he keeps this up. In last post I mocked your excuses about why Dudu even don't try (according to you). No he obviously then started to try. Lol

[kleisj]

Duval 31 sec faster than this morning!!!

Yeap but time lost already....!

[MikeD]

OMG ... look at that Suzuki time :(

Poor Garde.

[malscar]

What is Petter's excuse? Not even staying with Atko.

[consti]

Duval was 1 s/km quicker the second time around. If he does that on the next two stages as well, he'll be up there with the best non-Loebs on those stages as well.
no he was 2,6 s/km faster then the first time around, loeb and hirvonen both were 1 s/km faster then the first round...

[spudrsca]

What's wrong with Duval. I thought that is ace on asphalt and Hirvonen and Grönholm were dogs. At least this was the opinion of some forumers last year when rally Germany was driven.

He hasn't done Monte-Carlo last year and he had to have a new co-driver with the deal with Vergallen. Eddy Chevallier has co-driven many drivers that Vergallen has sponsored.
I watched the on-board of the shakedown and I can tell you that Smeets and Pivato are much better co-driver than Chevallier.

[Mirek]

Garde's problems with the lack of power continues :(

Petter on three cylinders at some moments.

[MikeD]

What is Petter's excuse? Not even staying with Atko.

he's running on only 3 cylinders.

[A.F.F.]

What is Petter's excuse? Not even staying with Atko.

Wasn't he on three cylinders or did I heard totally wrong ?

[kabouter]

no he was 2,6 s/km faster then the first time around, loeb and hirvonen both were 1 s/km faster then the first round...

It's a 29.5 km stage, he was about 30 seconds faster (18.51,1 compared to 19.22,2) - shouldn't that be 1 s/km? Or is it already too late into the week for me to do calculations?

[kabouter]

Wasn't he on three cylinders or did I heard totally wrong ?

Yep, that's what he said.

Al-Khassimi stopped on stage according to rally radio.

[Mirek]

Khalid crashed just before the end of stage and partly blockes track.

[consti]

It's a 29.5 km stage, he was about 30 seconds faster (18.51,1 compared to 19.22,2) - shouldn't that be 1 s/km? Or is it already too late into the week for me to do calculations?
sounds reasonable, i trusted the ewrc calculated times and my brain isn't working properly in mathematics-mode atm

[Wimanna]

Grr at the splits... I see them updating 'something'... there were 5 splits this stage...they just forgot the put the times in it :D

[malscar]

Wasn't he on three cylinders or did I heard totally wrong ?

Thankyou. I had not heard that.

[Sturla]

Sounds a little bit of a Petter excuse actually :) I think Chris is better in this rally than Petter, Petter has never showed any good speed in Monte

[consti]

Sounds a little bit of a Petter excuse actually :) I think Chris is better in this rally than Petter, Petter has never showed any good speed in Monte
it's long time since petter showed good speed at any rally (now throw your stones)

[Mauri A]

Any news from Sordo?

[A.F.F.]

Any news from Sordo?

No, not yet.

[A.F.F.]

I'll be damned if this year's Monte let all the drivers finish.

[Mirek]

Broccoli another 44 seconds faster than Burri and just behind Romeyer :)

[Tom206wrc]

Disappointing time from Cuoq this time ;(

[N.O.T]

Cuoq has nothing to fight for .....

[tannat]

latvala changing tyre :S poor guy

http://nettitv.mtv3.fi/maksuttomat/index.shtml/maksuttomat/ralli/ralli?121244#121244

I visited this site and there was a bit of live footage.

The Suzuki of Garde was visibly slower than the Ford and Cit.

I'd give alot to see the telemetry on the Suzukis. They are playing it safe I feel...

Would love to hear other recommendations of sites for photos and video (free of course)

Tannat

[A.F.F.]

Oh, they read Jaanus' podium prediction. You're a forum celebrity now :)

[I am evil Homer]

]Broccoli another 44 seconds faster than Burri and just behind Romeyer :)

Driver of the rally so far for me. Almost reminiscent of Ragnotti back in the good old days :D

[Jaanus]

Oh, they read Jaanus' podium prediction. You're a forum celebrity now :)

:o

[dimviii]

even at 1st day and it is boring...
only Duval and Atkinson have small gap.
just wait to see action from mech-problems..

[User]

Next year no Monte. It's a bit of a shame :(

Anyways, bring on SS7!

[PLuto]

Next year no Monte. It's a bit of a shame :(

Anyways, bring on SS7!

Next year is Monte in IRC, it will be much more interesting...

[A.F.F.]

Next year is Monte in IRC, it will be much more interesting...

I disagree. Monte will be interesting on a day they really move to region with SNOW.

I watched the footage from the loop 1 today and the roads were dry. Just another tarmac rally. :mark:

[N.O.T]

I disagree. Monte will be interesting on a day they really move to region with SNOW.

I watched the footage from the loop 1 today and the roads were dry. Just another tarmac rally. :mark:

well its only the second year that we don't get snow...i remmeber all the previous year we had some snow....

[PLuto]

I disagree. Monte will be interesting on a day they really move to region with SNOW.

I watched the footage from the loop 1 today and the roads were dry. Just another tarmac rally. :mark:

Tarmac isnt the main problem. Monte was everytime mixture of tarmac, snow and ice...

[Mirek]

A.F.F.: At least there would be much more drivers able of fighting for victory. And they want to change the rally format so as to use better stages (three service parks). The last stage should be night Turini. But for now it is only a wish of some organizers for 2009.

[N.O.T]

]A.F.F.: At least there would be much more drivers able of fighting for victory. And they want to change the rally format so as to use better stages (three service parks). The last stage should be night Turini. But for now it is only a wish of some organizers for 2009.


well i think we might see a more rally-like format next year....the rules for the WRC are very strict.

[kabouter]

Loeb is about 1 s slower than this morning, if the time on http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/ is correct, and Sordo is loosing time on Loeb again.

[KKS]

Hirvonen out?

[A.F.F.]

]A.F.F.: At least there would be much more drivers able of fighting for victory. And they want to change the rally format so as to use better stages (three service parks). The last stage should be night Turini. But for now it is only a wish of some organizers for 2009.

:up:

[KKS]

Hirvonen out?

no just split bug

[A.F.F.]

Yes, Hirvonen managed to put against Sordo. :up:

[MikeD]

Sordo is still fast

[PLuto]

Hirvonen out?

No, he is there with good time.

[A.F.F.]

Sordo probably having still problems.

Garde had no turbo at the morning.

[Corny]

I expected a bit more from Duval..

[User]

I expected a bit more from Duval..
². But then again, these roads are complete new for him, and he's still the fastest Stobart boy.

[A.F.F.]

I expected a bit more from Duval..

I expected a lot more. Wonder what's wrong other than lacking the frontcrew?

[Corny]

². But then again, these roads are complete new for him, and he's still the fastest Stobart boy.

New car, new Co- driver, new roads indeed
He says he's got problems with the tyres as well..

[N.O.T]

Atko and duval are gonna fight...both are not reliable when pushing.....

[N.O.T]

where do you see splits?

[User]

I expected a lot more. Wonder what's wrong other than lacking the frontcrew?
They paid 200.000€ for Duval to start in Monte, I would be slower for less :D

[A.F.F.]

They paid 200.000€ for Duval to start in Monte, I would be slower for less :D

LOL :laugh: :up:

[A.F.F.]

Ok... maybe the music IS better than these guys babbling....

[KKS]

No 1st split for Hening :(

Edit: OK he finished :)

[Mirek]

A.F.F.: Totaly agree....

[consti]

i'm curious if loeb could now win monte with this
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2008/wrc/mc/sa_a_133_loeb_1.jpg

edit: bad time by galli, does he have a problem?

[N.O.T]

i think he could win it starting with it...

[Micke_VOC]

Were are the times for Henning and PG ?
Anyone see split times.... ?

[Mirek]

I would disqualify him and his team since it is Peugeot he is riding on the photo :D

[MikeD]

Have people heard that Malcom Wilson said that Henning Solberg will switch between the Stobart and the Munchi's team during the year? It will be to uptimise the M2 points.

[Perra71]

PG +21.7 behind Loeb
Not to shabby

[Micke_VOC]

PG +21.7 behind Loeb
Not to shabby

I think PG doing a great job, first time in a wrc car.

[MikeD]

Fresh and reliable rumours say that Manfred Stohl have secured 5 WRC rallies in a Ford Focus. First one should be Mexico.

[KKS]

Loeb starts SS8

[consti]

Fresh and reliable rumours say that Manfred Stohl have secured 5 WRC rallies in a Ford Focus. First one should be Mexico.
seems like stobart team is going to be an all-star-team this year, pity that märtin won't return...

[KKS]

Hirvonen 9.2 faster then Sordo

[A.F.F.]

Altough Sordo drove with front wheel drive.

[Perra71]

Sordos saying he´s got only 2wd but with a time like that I don´t believe it for a second.

[kabouter]

Sordos saying he´s got only 2wd but with a time like that I don´t believe it for a second.

He lost 1 s/km to Loeb (who doesn't need to push at all). Maybe he's telling the truth.

[KKS]

+1.22.6 Gigi

[jonkka]

Cheers Tjeerd! Haven't seen you around for a while, what's up?

[Mirek]

Galli lost power steering on the end of previous stage.

[kabouter]

Cheers Tjeerd! Haven't seen you around for a while, what's up?

Hi Jonkka :wave: I'm fine - enjoying the first WRC round of the season :)

[jonkka]

That's good to hear. When you get around to updating RallyBase again, there's loads of new info on juwra if you want to use any.

My enjoyment of Monte is somewhat limited, having recently started on a new job seriously limits my ability to follow rally during working hours. Luckily I managed a peek or two at results during meetings today. :)

[KKS]

Latvala beat Hening.. and finish day at p9

[A.F.F.]

Jari-Matti still lets things affect him too much :mark:

[jonkka]

Jari-Matti still lets things affect him too much :mark:

How do you mean? Did he cry on WRR or what?

[A.F.F.]

Oh, btw PLuto. You might want to fix Jari-Matti's co-driver name to ANTTILA :)

[kabouter]

Oh, btw PLuto. You might want to fix Jari-Matti's co-driver name to ANTTILA :)

But it's Anttila already, isn't it???

[A.F.F.]

How do you mean? Did he cry on WRR or what?

Well, he wasn't far from that.

No, on serious note, he did a small mistake yesterday and blew a tyre. He haven't gotten over it today, drives too carefully and haven't got the self-confidence in driving and trust with the tyres.

That's a way too much worrying while on stage don't you think?

It's useless to squeeze when you already have crapped in your pants. Just let it go and push peal to the metal. That's my Dr.Phil for today :)

[Koppomsbo]

#12 Andersson P. - Andersson J. -> "Za dnešek mi celkem třikrát zhasnul motor, ale jsem maximálně spokojený, jede se nám dobře."

someone translate ? does he have any probs with engine?

[Mirek]

A.F.F.: Pluto is from autosport.cz not ewrc.cz and has it correct :)

[Mirek]

Koppomsbo: He said his engine stopped thee times today but anyway he's satisfied.

[A.F.F.]

But it's Anttila already, isn't it???

It's Antilla.

Should be Anttila.

[jonkka]

No, on serious note, he did a small mistake yesterday and blew a tyre. He haven't gotten over it today, drives too carefully and haven't got the self-confidence in driving and trust with the tyres.

That's a way too much worrying while on stage don't you think?

Than you Phil. I myself am of two minds, on the other hand it pays to be a thinking driver these days and I am sure Malcolm appreciates such qualities in his 2nd driver. On the other hand it would help his speed if just kept on focusing on the road ahead.

[A.F.F.]

]A.F.F.: Pluto is from autosport.cz not ewrc.cz and has it correct :)

Oh yes.

This is quite embarrasing.

Sorry, my bad.

[Koppomsbo]

]Koppomsbo: He said his engine stopped thee times today but anyway he's satisfied.


Cheers :up: thanks

[PLuto]

Oh yes.

This is quite embarrasing.

Sorry, my bad.

So switch to http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky and you will see it without mistakes :)

[A.F.F.]

Than you Phil. I myself am of two minds, on the other hand it pays to be a thinking driver these days and I am sure Malcolm appreciates such qualities in his 2nd driver. On the other hand it would help his speed if just kept on focusing on the road ahead.

You're totally right.

The thing is that he himself said all that. I just quoted him. :mark:

[J4MIE]

It's useless to squeeze when you already have crapped in your pants. Just let it go and push peal to the metal.

There's my new signature for 2008 :p :

[jonkka]

What a wise lad he is

[A.F.F.]

So switch to http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky and you will see it without mistakes :)


;)

I wil, cheers Pluto. :)

[A.F.F.]

Did PG get time penalty ??

[PLuto]

Did PG get time penalty ??

Yes, on the beginning of the day.

[Micke_VOC]

Did PG get time penalty ??


Yes, on the beginning of the day.

Think the penalty was for 4 min late on thursday night service...and he got it before parc ferme last night.

[PLuto]

;)

I wil, cheers Pluto. :)

Especially for you, we will translate all comments and infos into english.

[jonas_mcrae]

good to see that the subarus quietly but steadily are staying on the road, posting good or average times and actually getting some good points for the manu championship! (although against the Stobart Armada it will be difficult! later on the season)

[dimviii]

if suzukis have so many problems at tarmac rallies, i would not like to think in tough gravel events... :rolleyes: