Kansas City Cup Race Thread

[Jonesi]

Entry list shows 47 cars entered.
Top 35 - Mark Martin in #01, Bill Elliott in #21, Ricky Rudd in #88 but they probably still have Kenny available if needed. No changes to cars in top 35, Kyle Petty is now in 34th only 1 point ahead of 35th, but there's +100 gap to 36th.
Need for speed cars - No #37 entered. Jon Wood in Wood Bros. #147.

[RaceFanStan]

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01. A.J. Allmendinger
02. Bobby Labonte
03. Brian Vickers
04. Carl Edwards
05. Casey Mears
06. Clint Bowyer
07. Dale Earnhardt Jr
08. Dale Jarrett
09. Dave Blaney
10. David Gilliland
11. David Ragan
12. David Reutimann
13. David Stremme
14. Denny Hamlin
15. Elliott Sadler
16. Greg Biffle
17. J.J. Yeley
18. Jamie McMurray
19. Jeff Burton
20. Jeff Gordon
21. Jeff Green
22. Jeremy Mayfield
23. Jimmie Johnson
24. Joe Nemechek
25. John Andretti
26. Johnny Sauter
27. Jon Wood
28. Juan Pablo Montoya
29. Kasey Kahne
30. Ken Schrader
31. Kevin Harvick
32. Kurt Busch
33. Kyle Busch
34. Kyle Petty
35. Mark Martin
36. Martin Truex Jr
37. Matt Kenseth
38. Michael Waltrip
39. Paul Menard
40. Reed Sorenson
41. Ricky Rudd
42. Robby Gordon
43. Ryan Newman
44. Scott Riggs
45. Tony Raines
46. Tony Stewart
47. Ward Burton

4 drivers are going home ! :s

[RaceFanStan]

The “make it on speed or go home” gang :
Dave Blaney #22 Toyota
Scott Riggs #10 Dodge
Brian Vickers #83 Toyota
David Reutimann #00 Toyota
Dale Jarrett #44 Toyota
Ward Burton #4 Chevrolet
Joe Nemechek #78 Chevrolet
Michael Waltrip #55 Toyota
Jeremy Mayfield #36 Toyota
A J Allmendinger #84 Toyota
John Andretti #49 Dodge
Jon Wood #47 Ford
(NO Toyota in the top 35 in Owner's Points) :eek:

4 of these drivers will leave qualifying dissappointed. :s

[Jonesi]

Kenny Schrader in #21 now and Kenny Wallace expected to still be in #88.

[RaikkonenRules]

Anyone know what happen to Kevin Lepage and the Front Row team?

[Jonesi]

Anyone know what happen to Kevin Lepage and the Front Row team?

Jayski has a paragraph on his news page. They've cut back on going to some races. (IMO presumed reason $)

[Jonesi]

GRID
48 JIMMY JOHNSON
12 RYAN NEWMAN
17 MATT KENSETH
10 SCOTT RIGGS
24 JEFF GORDON
11 DENNY HAMLIN
8 DALE EARNHARDT JR
16 GREG BIFFLE
5 KYLE BUSCH
1 MARTIN TRUEX JR
--
07 CLINT BOWYER
55 MICHAEL WALTRIP
2 KURT BUSCH
44 DALE JARRETT
41 REED SORENSON
19 ELLIOTT SADLER
25 CASEY MEARS
29 KEVIN HARVICK
6 DAVID RAGAN
20 TONY STEWART
--
26 JAMIE McMURRAY
42 JUAN MONTOYA
38 DAVID GILLILAND
15 PAUL MENARD
78 JOE NEMECHEK
00 DAVID REUTIMANN
36 JEREMY MAYFIELD
99 CARL EDWARDS
49 JOHN ANDRETTI
9 KASEY KAHNE
--
70 JOHNNY SAUTER
18 J.J. YELEY
43 BOBBY LABONTE
45 KYLE PETTY
31 JEFF BURTON
21 KEN SCHRADER
40 DAVID STREMME
66 JEFF GREEN
88 KENNY WALLACE
01 MARK MARTIN
--
96 TONY RAINES
7 ROBBY GORDON
22 DAVE BLANEY



DNQ
84 AJ ALLMENDINGER
4 WARD BURTON
83 BRIAN VICKERS
47 JON WOOD

[RaceFanStan]

That's the same as what I have Jonesi. http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g202/gr8link/thum/1u.gif
(I used the 4 slowest non-top 35 qualifiers go home.)

[Jonesi]

NascarNow reporting Ryan Newman's #12 failed post qualifing tech and will start 42nd. (Less likely to have a point penalty since they're in CoYs this week.)

[RaceFanStan]

from nascar.com :
Ryan Newman's Dodge qualified second at 174.893 mph ...
but the car failed inspection because the roof was too low ...
Newman will start Sunday's race from the back ...
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I bet Newman is glad he didn't make the Chase now ...
if he had made the Chase this would be devastating. http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g202/gr8link/orn/00.gif

[RaceFanStan]

The highest qualifying Toyotas @ Kansas ?
the Michael Waltrip Racing Toyotas !!!!!!!!!!
11. Michael Waltrip #55
13. Dale Jarrett #44
25. David Reutimann #00
Michael Waltrip Racing must have found some horsepower in their engine department ! :eek:

(I bet the Red Bull Racing Toyotas would like to have some of it.) http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g202/gr8link/orn/00.gif
(A.J. Allmendinger #84 & Brian Vickers #83 went home)

[RaceFanStan]

Where do the Chase drivers start the race ???
01. Jimmie Johnson 175.063 mph
02. Matt Kenseth 174.283 mph
04. Jeff Gordon 173.695 mph
05. Denny Hamlin 173.684 mph
08. Kyle Busch 173.483 mph
09. Martin Truex Jr. 173.455 mph
10. Clint Bowyer 173.338 mph
12. Kurt Busch 172.916 mph
17. Kevin Harvick 172.458 mph
19. Tony Stewart 172.386 mph
27. Carl Edwards 171.467 mph
34. Jeff Burton 171.016 mph

A few of them sure have a lot of spots to make up to get a good finish ! :eek:

[RaceFanStan]

The revised Kansas Starting Line-up :
01. Jimmie Johnson
02. Matt Kenseth
03. Scott Riggs
04. Jeff Gordon
05. Denny Hamlin
06. Dale Earnhardt Jr
07. Greg Biffle
08. Kyle Busch
09. Martin Truex Jr
10. Clint Bowyer
11. Michael Waltrip
12. Kurt Busch
13. Dale Jarrett
14. Reed Sorenson
15. Elliott Sadler
16. Casey Mears
17. Kevin Harvick
18. David Ragan
19. Tony Stewart
20. Jamie McMurray
21. Juan Pablo Montoya
22. David Gilliland
23. Paul Menard
24. Joe Nemechek
25. David Reutimann
26. Jeremy Mayfield
27. Carl Edwards
28. John Andretti
29. Kasey Kahne
30. Johnny Sauter
31. J J Yeley
32. Bobby Labonte
33. Kyle Petty
34. Jeff Burton
35. Ken Schrader
36. David Stremme
37. Jeff Green
38. Kenny Wallace
39. Mark Martin
40. Tony Raines
41. Robby Gordon
42. Ryan Newman
43. Dave Blaney

DID NOT QUALIFY
A J Allmendinger
Ward Burton
Brian Vickers
Jon Wood

[Alexamateo]

The revised Kansas Starting Line-up :


Stan, correct me if I am wrong, but don't the drivers in that particular lane just move up, or is that only when a driver makes an engine change or something like that?

[RaceFanStan]

If there is an unapproved engine change or when a driver goes to a back-up car ...
he takes the field in his qualified position but before the green flag he drops to the back ...
the other drivers just move up in whatever lane the driver was in.

However when a driver's qualifying time is DQ'ed he takes the field in the back ...
NASCAR resets the positons BEFORE the race & the drivers line-up in the revised order.

[Alexamateo]

Aha, got it now. Thx!

[Cindy_AL]

Jimmie Johnson will have to start from the rear after he crashed during practice. :mark:

[RaceFanStan]

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[Vez]

From NASCAR.com - Lap-by-Lap
Lap 16 -- RED FLAG: Rain is starting to come down a little harder so the race has been stopped to allow the track to dry.

[Vez]

They're back racing again.
3:15 p.m. -- The engines have been fired and we should be racing soon.
Lap 16 -- YELLOW FLAG: The cars are off pit road and the race is back under caution.

and the 2nd caution is already out after a few laps in;
Lap 28 -- YELLOW FLAG NO. 2: Kyle Busch is hard into the wall in Turn 3 after Dale Earnhardt Jr. hits him lifting his rear tires off the track.

[Vez]

Lap 34 -- YELLOW FLAG NO. 3: Martin Truex Jr. has a tire go down and he hits the wall losing his third-place spot.

[Vez]

Lap 70 -- YELLOW FLAG NO. 5: Caution is out due to Jeff Burton sitting on the racetrack unable to move.

Lap 74 -- GREEN FLAG: Matt Kenseth brings the field to the green.
1. Matt Kenseth
2. Tony Stewart
3. Jeff Gordon
4. Kurt Busch
5. Denny Hamlin

[Vez]

Lap 76 -- Kyle Busch is back on the track and scored 46 laps down in 43rd.

Lap 80 -- Jeff Burton is back on the track after fixing their fuel issue. The No. 31 is scored 11 laps down.

[Vez]

Lap 105 -- Rain is threatening again and could hit around the halfway point. Lap 134 will mark an official race.

[Erki]

Blaney is doing a really good job. Currently 8th and has a good shot to be 6th soon. :up: Also Gilliland is going well in 10th.

[Vez]

Lap 134 -- Dave Blaney is up to fifth after passing Matt Kenseth. :up:

Lap 135 -- The race is OFFICIAL! If the weather turns to the worse, the race would be called and not run on Monday.

Lap 136 -- Barring any weather issues, green flag stops should be starting in about eight laps.

[Vez]

Lap 146 -- YELLOW FLAG NO. 8: Lightning was seen right behind the track and the race is being slowed down due to weather.

Lap 147 -- Tony Stewart now needs to nurse his car around the track and save as much fuel as possible.

[Vez]

Lap 148 -- Kurt Busch, Matt Kenseth, Jimmie Johnson, Jeff Gordon, Denny Hamlin and Martin Truex Jr. are all scored a lap down after making their stops.

Lap 149 -- The top five if the race is halted for rain:
1. Tony Stewart
2. Greg Biffle
3. Kevin Harvick
4. Clint Bowyer
5. Reed Sorenson

Way to go Reed :up:

[Vez]

Lap 149 -- RED FLAG: The race is halted for rain and the fans were told to find shelter.

[Vez]

4:57 p.m. -- The sky has completely opened up and if they can go green again, it will be a while.

[Erki]

Are they gonna go green again?

[Erki]

Looks like they will go back to green. Gonna be very interesting.

[BobbyC]

Race is being moved from ESPN Broadcast Network to ESPN2.

[harvick#1]

end the race now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[muggle not]

ho hum, Gordon finishes ahead of harvick again. :)

[Hoss Ghoul]

Very shady finish. Change the lap limit twice, ok. Then, no GWC, hmmm, but OK. However, Bifle should not have won that race if he could not maintain pace car speed. Bowyer should have won.

Also, Jimmie Johnson is a dummy. He wanted to be second, lol, hello, if Bowyer wins its worse for you points wise. It's only your job, why would you know how the points work.

[muggle not]

Yeah, there was some controversy. I was miffed because they didn't have the GWC. Don't tell me it was too dark.

Wow, a bunch of drivers took it on the nose in points.

[BobbyC]

Jimmie said he plans a protest and the team probably has paid their $500 to NASCAR to protest the finish based on failure to keep pace car speed.

Jimmie lost two positions in a 2004 race at Pocono when he failed to keep pace car speed during a fake pit road maneuvre.

Race finish protests have happened in the past; in 1984, Neil Bonnett's illegal pass at the Music City Motorplex to win the race was invalidated in a protest.

[Jonesi]

Very shady finish. Change the lap limit twice, ok. Then, no GWC, hmmm, but OK. However, Bifle should not have won that race if he could not maintain pace car speed. Bowyer should have won.

Also, Jimmie Johnson is a dummy. He wanted to be second, lol, hello, if Bowyer wins its worse for you points wise. It's only your job, why would you know how the points work.

I don't think that's worse in the points. If Biffle is scored as dropping back into about 5th/6th, then Johnson picks up 5 points on about 7-9 chasers and just loses an extra 5 points to Bowyer. I'd take that math. (also I'm sure he doesn't consider Bowyer as much as a threat to win the championship as he does Gordon, Stewart, Harvick, Hamlin.)

[Hoss Ghoul]

Jimmie Johnson and Dale Earnhardt Jr. were both wrecked on the last lap of the race by Brian Vickers at Talladega last year. The caution came out. They finished in the 20's and not 2nd and 3rd. NASCAR's explanation: They failed to maintain their position on the track/under caution/with the pace car.

What is the explanation for Bifle's fradulent victory?

Bad officiating today. Plain terrible.

[Jonesi]

Jimmie said he plans a protest and the team probably has paid their $500 to NASCAR to protest the finish based on failure to keep pace car speed.

Jimmie lost two positions in a 2004 race at Pocono when he failed to keep pace car speed during a fake pit road maneuvre.

Race finish protests have happened in the past; in 1984, Neil Bonnett's illegal pass at the Music City Motorplex to win the race was invalidated in a protest.

True, buttttt Nascar REALLY hates to take a win away from a driver and will look for a excuse not to do so.

[Hoss Ghoul]

I don't think that's worse in the points. If Biffle is scored as dropping back into about 5th/6th, then Johnson picks up 5 points on about 7-9 chasers and just loses an extra 5 points to Bowyer. I'd take that math. (also I'm sure he doesn't consider Bowyer as much as a threat to win the championship as he does Gordon, Stewart, Harvick, Hamlin.)

You make a valid point there, but looking at the points as they stand and based on how well Bowyer has run, I think he is a bigger threat than anyone 100+ points back. Still, an argument can be made both ways.

[muggle not]

The points standings sure were shook up. However, anything can happen with 7 races to go especially with Dega on the horizon and JV maybe in the race.

[harvick#1]

is Dega next week?

because its gonna be one wild race

[harvick#1]

Yeah, there was some controversy. I was miffed because they didn't have the GWC. Don't tell me it was too dark.

Wow, a bunch of drivers took it on the nose in points.

it was near dark, the camera's make it look like daylight still. I think Nascar has alot of explaining to do why they restarted the race and never fully cleaned the track causing a 7-8 car pileup on the first lap of the restart

[MD24]

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