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car20
11th August 2007, 19:43
can anyone esle get up the timetable for this weekend's racing?

when i click on the time table in pdf form on the brscc website it comes up bad error on my pc :mad:

Also any news on chris robbo getting out this weekend ? any boost on numbers or the fantastic 11 only out.

Dave17
11th August 2007, 21:02
Errr there's no meeting this weekend.......

racing59
11th August 2007, 23:00
Provisional - VERY!

Saturday.
0900 0940 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Practice (What! - That early!)
0945 1015 Pickup Trucks Practice
1030 1045 Mill Street Motors Ford Salon Car Championship Qualifying
1055 1110 Dees.co.uk Ford Festa Championship Qualifying
1120 1135 VSR Super Silhouette Qualifying
1155 1235 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Practice
1240 1255 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Qualifying
1255 1340 Luncheon
1340 1410 Pickup Truck Racing Qualifying
1425 1500 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Race
1515 1530 VSR Super Silhouette Race
1545 1605 Mill Street Motors Ford Salon Car Race
1620 1640 Dees.co.uk Ford Festa Race
1655 1710 VSR Super Silhouette Race
1715 1755 Just Kidding

Sunday
0900 1240 RS Owners Club Trackday
1240 1255 Pickup Race Build up
1255 1330 Pickup Race
1330 1340 Podium
1340 1345 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Build up
1345 1420 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Race
1420 1430 Podium
1420 1430 Car Club Parade
1435 1455 Mill Street Motors Ford Salon Car Race
1510 1530 Dees.co.uk Ford Festa Race
1545 1620 Pickup Race
1620 1625 Podium
1625 1700 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Race
1700 1710 Podium

Somewhere in there will be Team Air Ambulance Grand Draw & Raffle.
A heap of fabulous prizes, including an "individual lesson" for Bodyflight - skydiving without leaving the ground!!
Lots of yummy Domino's Pizza offers too!

LessThanSte
12th August 2007, 00:08
Hm, considering im coming from Cardiff next weekend, i might instead leave a little later, doesnt seem like a great deal of fun watching a load of chavved up ford's being dug out of the gravel.

Still, might be amusing :P

Should be a good day though, lots of people there i suppose. Mind you, fiesta's should be abit like the clios, so they should be fun to watch :)

LessThanSte
12th August 2007, 00:10
oo, one thing though. Im bringing a friend (mainly because he's in cardiff with me too watch the rugby and im not going via home on the way to rockingham to drop him off) and was hoping to do one of the track ride's. Will there be any on Sunday morning, be a good way to get him interested in the facility, given that he isnt a motorsport nut like the rest of us...?!?

bravheart
12th August 2007, 00:26
[quote="racing59"]Provisional - Me think's NOT

Saturday.
0900 0940 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Practice (What! - That early!)
0945 1015 Pickup Trucks Practice
1030 1045 Mill Street Motors Ford Salon Car Championship Qualifying
1055 1110 Dees.co.uk Ford Festa Championship Qualifying
1120 1135 VSR Super Silhouette Qualifying
1155 1235 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Practice
1240 1255 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Qualifying
1255 1340 Luncheon
1340 1410 Pickup Truck Racing Qualifying
1425 1500 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Race
1515 1530 VSR Super Silhouette Race
1545 1605 Mill Street Motors Ford Salon Car Race
1620 1640 Dees.co.uk Ford Festa Race
1655 1710 VSR Super Silhouette Race
1715 1755 Just Kidding

Sunday
0900 1240 RS Owners Club Trackday
1240 1255 Pickup Race Build up
1255 1330 Pickup Race
1330 1340 Podium
1340 1345 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Build up
1345 1420 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Race
1420 1430 Podium
1420 1430 Car Club Parade
1435 1455 Mill Street Motors Ford Salon Car Race
1510 1530 Dees.co.uk Ford Festa Race
1545 1620 Pickup Race
1620 1625 Podium
1625 1700 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Race
1700 1710 Podium


Hi Rob

This is the same Time table that i have been sent!! weather only might change it?

racing59
12th August 2007, 11:05
Don't mention the W word!!!!

car20
12th August 2007, 11:07
[quote][/Sunday
0900 1240 RS Owners Club Trackday
1240 1255 Pickup Race Build up
1255 1330 Pickup Race
1330 1340 Podium
1340 1345 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Build up
1345 1420 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Race
1420 1430 Podium
1420 1430 Car Club Parade
1435 1455 Mill Street Motors Ford Salon Car Race
1510 1530 Dees.co.uk Ford Festa Race
1545 1620 Pickup Race
1620 1625 Podium
1625 1700 MAC Tools V8 Trophy Race
1700 1710 Podium
QUOTE]


WTF do they call that?(a full days racing) cant get to saturday because i'm working and staying overnight,
And they wonder why fans are staying away?
I think i will be heading for the shops then spend my birthday money!
but hey they might move the scsa till the morning and not tell anyone
what a load off pis*, this season has gone down the crapper faster than last year!

Tiesse
12th August 2007, 11:20
If it stays like that, then I am disappointed.

I've got to get Ryan over to a birthday party in the afternoon on the Sunday, so it looks like we'll only just get the 1st PUT race in!

Saturday is out of the question as we are going to a BBQ/party.

I would have thought it would make more sense to have the RS Owners Club trackday either side of lunch!

car20
12th August 2007, 11:30
:arrows: Instead of having another race on saturday(postponed from june) why not have a longer race on sunday, Hell there not doing much racing sunday :mad:

Rob you tell em "i signed up for a 50 lap race! PLEASE can we have one" :D

well it is worth a try :rotflmao:

well i for one will be hoping for rain in the afternoon soo we get the racing in the morning! but knowing the brscc they will hold out till they see the rain clouds and then send out the v8's

Abo
12th August 2007, 11:35
09:45 on Saturday morning? I can't make that! Anyone want to spot for Wilky on that first session? In fact, I'll start a new thread...

Forum Buddy
12th August 2007, 12:13
I wont bother this month, I didn't pay for my season ticket to watch RS club have a track day.

Luckily I won two tickets for BTCC at Brands for the weekend.

Sorry but I am not impressed with this sort of weekend.

Francis
Forum Buddy

acorn
12th August 2007, 13:02
I would have thought it would make more sense to have the RS Owners Club trackday either side of lunch!

i don't see "lunch" mentioned.

acorn
12th August 2007, 13:06
[quote="car20"]

if you think it was difficult to get a few caterhams to move can you imagine what the reaction will be from a whole lot more ford drivers on their big weekend out. i certainly wouldn't want to be the one doing the negotiating.

acorn
12th August 2007, 13:11
If it stays like that, then I am disappointed.

I've got to get Ryan over to a birthday party in the afternoon on the Sunday, so it looks like we'll only just get the 1st PUT race in!

Saturday is out of the question as we are going to a BBQ/party.

I would have thought it would make more sense to have the RS Owners Club trackday either side of lunch!

obviously ryan's b/day is a priority but what if it was a normal race weekendand, it rained on sunday morning and the oval races were sensibly moved to the afternoon you'd be in the same position. it's unfortunate that this weekend seems to be a full one in your personal calendar.

acorn
12th August 2007, 13:16
I wont bother this month, I didn't pay for my season ticket to watch RS club have a track day.

Luckily I won two tickets for BTCC at Brands for the weekend.

Sorry but I am not impressed with this sort of weekend.

Francis
Forum Buddy

hang on, you entered a competition KNOWING that it was a rockingham oval weekend. shame on you.

Forum Buddy
12th August 2007, 13:30
Actaully I entered in April, and Tickets could have been at any meeting it was just drawn that way, and I think lucky for me, it is Brands, as this appears to be rubbish weekend at the Rock.

I for one, are always at the Rock, come rain or sunshine, or both.

I take the last meeting and a letter from BRSCC to be my queue, to think seriously about Rockingham and my commitment to the Rock weekends.

I have been coming and a member since day one.

This now has become intolerable, and I think the SCSA/PUT's guys/and KJW have done a sterling job.

It now comes down to actually seeing some racing, not being abused by BRSCC anymore.

Sorry if that goes against the grain, but I for one don't want to SCSa/pUT go down, but I won't pay for my season pass again, no matter how cheap was it is.
I just hope Oval Racing does continue, but I'll stick with the Nascar on tv/Interenet at present.
Sorry Guys

Francis
Forum Buddy

Speedworx
12th August 2007, 16:14
Lots of time to walk the paddock taking photos and talking to drivers then.

I'm happy with that.

Dave17
12th August 2007, 18:02
I'm a happy bunny. As it is an RS owners "TRACK DAY" it means us marshals get paid!
(watch out for a whole lot of pigs in flight over the Rockingham building)

acorn
12th August 2007, 18:22
........ and a letter from BRSCC

can you post the contents or would it be a breach of confidentiality?

Tiesse
12th August 2007, 18:24
obviously ryan's b/day is a priority but what if it was a normal race weekendand, it rained on sunday morning and the oval races were sensibly moved to the afternoon you'd be in the same position. it's unfortunate that this weekend seems to be a full one in your personal calendar.

And it's my personal choice to just come in the morning, rather than not support the series by not bothering turning up!

Quite obviously I don't expect the raceday to be re-arranged to suit me, I was just voicing my own personal disappointment!

cameronian
12th August 2007, 18:32
My position on this month is similar to that of Forum Buddy. I too am a season pass holder but I intend to give August a miss.
I've missed only three meetings since the Coys Festival but I draw the line at coming to watch a Track Day till 1PM then see the Ascar out so late in the day.

car20
12th August 2007, 19:22
i am a season ticket holder as is my wife, I will be going despite my anger at the weekend activities as i have booked hotels month's ago and it's my birthday weekend but i won't be going til after lunch unless it looks like rain and they might(?) change it around.

september i won't be going i have to work so i am hoping for it too continue next year!

turn 4 mad
12th August 2007, 22:31
you bunch of to@@$£s, call yourself scsa fans, after everything that has gone on in the past it just shows what real race fans or even rockingham fans you really are, fine dont come this month, fine go shopping or what ever you wish to do, before you go just stop and think for a minite, think about the teams, with racing on in the afternoon (weather permiting) it gives time for the sponsors to arrive meet there teams, have a look around rockingham, hopefully speak about the following season and then watch some racing, after all without sponsors there would be no racing, do you think the organisers care if you turn up or not? the answers no, they allready have your money for your season pass. please start thinking about the teams and not yourself, and before you all reply, before i was with a team, i was 1st in the gate and spent the first hour watching the sweeper on track.

Tiesse
12th August 2007, 22:50
you bunch of to@@$£s, call yourself scsa fans, after everything that has gone on in the past it just shows what real race fans or even rockingham fans you really are, fine dont come this month, fine go shopping or what ever you wish to do, before you go just stop and think for a minite, think about the teams, with racing on in the afternoon (weather permiting) it gives time for the sponsors to arrive meet there teams, have a look around rockingham, hopefully speak about the following season and then watch some racing, after all without sponsors there would be no racing, do you think the organisers care if you turn up or not? the answers no, they allready have your money for your season pass. please start thinking about the teams and not yourself, and before you all reply, before i was with a team, i was 1st in the gate and spent the first hour watching the sweeper on track.

Whilst not as strong, I agree with these sentiments. By staying away, there is no point being made. Far better to make a point by showing that there is a hardcore level of support who will turn up, come rain or shine! (no pun intended about previous meeting, just a turn of phrase).

As I have already said, I cannot go all day on Sunday, but I'd rather go until the afternoon than not at all!

JovialJooles
12th August 2007, 23:04
Can we all please calm down?

If you're mad, wait until you are thinking clearly before posting on here.

Julian

Forum Buddy
12th August 2007, 23:09
I thank you Turn Four, I am a hard core SCSA fan and also for Rockingham, so please don't bring that into this to the discussion.

I've supported Rockingham and SCSA through thick and thin, wet and sunshine, winter and summer events.

It is my choice as whether I support this series, this year or not. The repsonse from the BRSCC , didn't inspire me to keep support them infield action, just make SCSA look bad. Sorry about that, but again that is my choice.

Thanks for your support in making my mind up even more not to attend the Rock next weekend.

I hope SCSA survive, but not at my expense to watch Ford RS on a Sunday thank you very much.

Francis
Fiorum Buddy

racing59
12th August 2007, 23:15
I would agree with some of the sentiment on here, however, let's look at some facts.

Due to weather, we have been moved to a morning slot to avoid the downpours.

However, the V8's traditional slots in the programme are 1.30 to 2pm (the primetime slot), and last race of the day. Therefore, this meeting is the same as any other should have been when first timetabled.

Please stop doing rain dances, it's going to be sunny all that weekend, and we're gonna have one hell of a rumble!

As much as most people dislike the roadcourse stuff. Expect fireworks in the Ford Saloons. The sharp end of the grid consists of some rudely quick Escort Cosworths, and a potty Fiesta Cosworth. The occaisional Super Touring Car comes out from time to time (other than the old Gp.A tourers, they were the best touring cars of their time (not counting Aussie V8's!))

Oh come all ye faithful...... Come to Church at the Rock on sunday, and listen to the sermon by the Reverend Chevy Vee-Eight, with his choir of Pickups.

JovialJooles
12th August 2007, 23:26
you bunch of to@@$£s, call yourself scsa fans, after everything that has gone on in the past it just shows what real race fans or even rockingham fans you really are, fine dont come this month, fine go shopping or what ever you wish to do, before you go just stop and think for a minite, think about the teams, with racing on in the afternoon (weather permiting) it gives time for the sponsors to arrive meet there teams, have a look around rockingham, hopefully speak about the following season and then watch some racing, after all without sponsors there would be no racing, do you think the organisers care if you turn up or not? the answers no, they allready have your money for your season pass. please start thinking about the teams and not yourself, and before you all reply, before i was with a team, i was 1st in the gate and spent the first hour watching the sweeper on track.

If you want to turn more fans away, I think your approach will do the trick!

Everybody on this forum is entitled to their view.

Your intemperate response is certainly not helping and does not paint Revolution Racing in a very good light.

It might surprise you to realise that people who pay to attend race meetings wish to be entertained. They are not coming to Rockingham out of charity; although your last paragraph would suggest you expect this should be the case.

Lets get one thing quite clear - without fans there will be no sponsors - I think your sponsors may be very interested to learn that long standing fans are not turning up.

I'm not sure where you thought your arguments made any sense to the paying fans, but it is pretty apparent that you believe people should fund your motor racing passion regardless.

"Please start thinking about the teams and not yourself". - Where do you get off?

Tiesse
12th August 2007, 23:31
Isn't the English language wonderful? This thread started life as somebody asking about the timetable for the August meeting!

turn 4 mad
12th August 2007, 23:46
[quote="JovialJooles"]

Everybody on this forum is entitled to their view.

Your intemperate response is certainly not helping and does not paint Revolution Racing in a very good light.

It might surprise you to realise that people who pay to attend race meetings wish to be entertained. They are not coming to Rockingham out of charity; although your last paragraph would suggest you expect this should be the case.
just to note, this is nothing to do with revolution racing, rockingham or the brscc, this is my view, as you put it everybody is entitled to their view.
you say quote "it may surprise you to realise that people who pay to attend race meetings wish to be entertained" if you would like to come and see me on sat or sun, i will show you my season pass for this year which i perchised this year as i have done since may 2001, so i feel im intitled to my view as well as the rest of the season pass holders.

madphotog
13th August 2007, 08:49
Hey boys and girls, yes we would all prefer a full days racing wouldn't we but the real thing about this Sunday is all the people associated with the RS day... there should be the biggesst crowd there we have seen in over 2 years so lets be positive.

Yes the sponsors will have time to see the cars and the teams but for a change they will see a crowd which hopefully will please them and give them the impetus to return. There is absolutely no point in companies putting money into sponsorship if the cars are only going to be seen by "one man and his dog" and before you say anything, they wouldn't let the dog in!

So lets all have a good weekend and entertain the new crowd and ensure that they come back again.

JovialJooles
13th August 2007, 09:26
Everybody on this forum is entitled to their view.

Your intemperate response is certainly not helping and does not paint Revolution Racing in a very good light.

It might surprise you to realise that people who pay to attend race meetings wish to be entertained. They are not coming to Rockingham out of charity; although your last paragraph would suggest you expect this should be the case.
just to note, this is nothing to do with revolution racing, rockingham or the brscc, this is my view, as you put it everybody is entitled to their view.

you say quote "it may surprise you to realise that people who pay to attend race meetings wish to be entertained" if you would like to come and see me on sat or sun, i will show you my season pass for this year which i perchised this year as i have done since may 2001, so i feel im intitled to my view as well as the rest of the season pass holders.

Perhaps you should add a disclaimer to your signature to make it clear your views do not represent Revolution Racing. At present your signature leads me to believe you are someone who is at the very least associated with the team.

Of course you are entitled to your view, I am not disputing that.

However, just because you hold a particular view does not entitle you to attack other members of the forum who come from a different viewpoint.

Reynard
13th August 2007, 11:48
Thanks Julian.

Just remember folks, everyone is entitled to their point of view regardless of whether anyone agrees with it ir not.

I personally think it is a shame that some people are choosing not to come to race meetings, especially those who have been there since the beginning. I believe that the series really does need "bums on seats" in order to prove that we're still there and still a contender. Heavens, the crowd at Rockingham is considerably larger than what you'd get for a typical meeting anywah which does prove a point.

But then I also feel that the meetings aren't quite going in the direction I'd like them to go in - but that's purely a question of money. Every series etc on the day has to pay for track time, and if they weren't paying, there wouldn't be any racing at all... I just grit my teeth and get on with it just like everyone else working hard to keep this thing going.

But I do agree with Rob - those fast Fords (even though I don't like Fords) are pretty mental out on track - saw them at Snet a while back and it was pretty entertaining to say the least.

But please folks, hang on to your hair! If you can't do that, I may have to lock this thread until everyone calms down a bit.

Chigley
13th August 2007, 15:16
My two pennyworth on this and I'm going to utter heresy to some.

Reading the comments from a minority of the forum members they appear to be of the opinion that Rockingham should be die-hard Oval V8 or nothing. With all the best will in the world Rockingham will never be a pure V8 oval and dreaming of things Talladega/Homestaed/Daytona is folly as far as OK Ovals is concerned. We are always going to have to comprise with infield racing and to spit out the dummy and throw Teddy out of the cot is a no brainer. All you are hurting is the aspiration of getting Oval racing accepted and prosperous in this country. Swallow the irritation of smallie kids in customed dustbins and enjoy the racing laid on for the rest of the day.

As Witty says it is about economics, the circuit hire has to be paid and for the organisers to keep getting championships interested in coming to the Rock they have to invite all and provide balanced track time.

To quote an old cliché "No pain, no gain."

:)

Old Stock Nut
13th August 2007, 16:01
It is a shame that Francis' views have been taken so agressively because he really is a die-hard oval fan and has been to most races since it started and I think the tirades were a bit unnecessary - constructive comment would have served us and the sport much better. He has been as upset as the rest of us with the way that our favourite racing has been so badly served over past years.

I know I will be accused of being a "half-full glass" optimist, but I have had a look back at previous meetings this year and it was very interesting. The afternoon timetable is almost the same as all of the others this year, with the PUTs starting at around 12:30 for their first race and the V8s finishing around 5-ish. So next Sunday's timetable is pretty standard for this year at least, apart from the fact that the weather is going to be good for it - there I go again with the half-full stuff.

On the positive side, there could be a lot of speed crazy Ford owners who have never actually seen a PUT/V8 race and who might just stick around for the afternoon, so maybe we will get some more support from them at future meetings. Hopefully they will find oval racing as much better than watching souped-up tin topped roadsters wandering round the infield as we do. And if sharing half of our day with some petrolheads who are going to fund it is the only way to keep going, then so be it, at least for now.... And if they join our "happy" band at future meetings then it might just have been worth it.

Brian

car20
13th August 2007, 17:59
In an ideal world this year should have been a blast 36 cars 40.000 crowd big name sponsors and a tv deal prime time sunday with 3million viewers........

but hey we ain't got that have we,

Rockingham was built i believe for oval racing it is a sad shame that events have taking a turn for the worse, the Oval fans of scsa (me included come dressed in our apparel of nascar jackets) have my opinion been a bit gyrated at the infield and pickups proping us up as we gasp for air.

Simple facts are that only money and a person who has vision and brass balls who is going to take hold of things with scsa v8 racing and put it back in the forefront.....but as yet the series stutters through another year hoping for a miracle.

As for the this sunday me and my family come for racing, not a club morning, i show my passion with my season ticket purchase and my attendance baring work.

any way do you still stomp ya feet??
my son is gutted now they stopped doing it he had practised all the off season ready for it.
me and my son felt like we were the only ones doing it last meeting and that was for the pickups, yes i was the one with the airhorn that most people in the main stand were giving the dead eye too :) sorry

Reynard
13th August 2007, 18:13
any way do you still stomp ya feet??

I do! :cheese:

Unfortunately the hardcore down on the fenceline isn't exactly the best place to do it... :rolleyes:

car20
13th August 2007, 18:19
ok where do you stand i wanna see dust!!! or splashing in the puddles!

i'll be there sunday looking for ya :)

Reynard
13th August 2007, 19:21
ok where do you stand i wanna see dust!!! or splashing in the puddles!

i'll be there sunday looking for ya :)

Exit of Turn 4, where the cars whizz past only inches from my ears... :D

Jordygirl
13th August 2007, 21:19
Exit of Turn 4, where the cars whizz past only inches from my ears... :D

And I'm stamping my feet down on Turn 4 too. I even turn round and get the spectators involved. So at least I'm doing my bit before concentrating on being the Turn 4 Observer. :D

uskram
14th August 2007, 09:10
I haven't posted on here for ages but I am constantly browsing.... Up until this season I have also been going to The Rock since the Coys Festival but after the disappointment of last year I haven't been at all this year. I used to be there Saturdays and Sundays, bringing the family and meeting up with up to 20 friends on the Sunday.
Now for why I've posted..... I love V8 stock cars, I don't mind the pick ups but that isn't my bag as for the other formula this doesn't float my boat or the other 20 or so people that we used to meet up with. the reason the series is dying is because of these inferior races.... People came to Rockingham for two reasons 1) It was differant... V8's and oval racing and 2) to be entetained, whether by the groups, the fair or the racing..... and now they aren't, pure and simple!
I think we all ought to face facts...

Reynard
14th August 2007, 10:33
the reason the series is dying is because of these inferior races.... People came to Rockingham for two reasons 1) It was differant... V8's and oval racing and 2) to be entetained, whether by the groups, the fair or the racing..... and now they aren't, pure and simple!
I think we all ought to face facts...

I'm terribly sorry, but I do have to disagree with you. If we didn't have these so called "inferior races" we wouldn't have the V8's and Pickups racing here at all.

Rockingham still offers a completely different experience to your average race meeting in the UK.

F150pickup
14th August 2007, 11:42
The Red Arrows are paying a visit on Sunday at 1324 Fly past with smoke. It is in the middle of the Pick up race as you have no choice and i bet you they are smack on time

LessThanSte
14th August 2007, 12:10
oooo :)

So the chat over rockingham radio was actually true :)

Tell me they're coming from BEHIND the main grandstand, that'll give 5000 people or so a nice, albeit loud surprise half way through the race :)

F150pickup
14th August 2007, 12:36
All i can say is that they are going to Bournemouth so could be T4 but Tornado have come from behind the Rockingham building so we can hope

LessThanSte
14th August 2007, 14:04
:)

Make sure everyones in the rockingham building then, then. and dont tell them whats happening.

Hey, if we get nippy with the race, could time the flypast right as Gavin and Poulter cross the finish line side-by-side. We can but hope!

timtime
14th August 2007, 16:23
I would suspect the Red Arrows will be flying south as they have a display at Eastbourne later in the afternoon. Saturday sees them at Eastbourne in the morning and York in the afternoon hence the logic behind my suspicion.

Regards

Tim

F150pickup
14th August 2007, 19:38
Tania spoke to lead Pilot today they are coming in N to NE

Chigley
14th August 2007, 21:08
Tania spoke to lead Pilot today they are coming in N to NE

Oh goody, can we let off a smoke flare from the gantry :devil: the pickups won't notice they could still see the car in front :D

kellner
15th August 2007, 12:05
With the first pickup race now starting at 13.30, hopefully, the Red Arrows will be finished before the start of the race.

Tiesse
15th August 2007, 12:17
Just had the email from BRSCC detailing a timetable change.

I was thinking maybe it was in response to some of our feelings, but when I checked it, it appears worse. I shall still come down, but it would appear I personally won't be seeing any racing by the time I have to leave to get Ryan to the birthday party!

The email also says that there are slots available to purchase for track sessions on the Saturday & Sunday at £50 & & £115 respectively.

I am now taking off my rose tinted specs. When I purchased my season ticket prior to the first meeting, it was with the impression that 19th August was a BRSCC@Rockingham meeting featuring the SCSA & PUTs with support races.

This Sunday's meeting would appear to have been hijacked by the BRSCC persuading the RS Owners club to change their venue to Rockingham (having been at Donnington last year I believe). The racing that I specifically bought my season ticket to see is clearly playing second fiddle this Sunday!

Whilst I understand the need for support races etc at meetings, they should be just that & not impact on what should be the primary event.

It is not even as though the racing is being promoted on the back of the RSOC national day! If you look at some of the Ford Owners forums, the people that are coming are totally unaware that it also forms part of the regular racing meetings. There is even a post on one forum from a guy who lives in Corby a was unaware of the racing!

This is the revised Sunday timetable

RS Owner Club Members
Track Time
09:30 - 13:20



Pickup Truck Racing
RACE 5
13:30 - 14:00 35 laps

MAC Tools V8 Trophy
RACE 6
14:15 - 14:45 35 laps

Mill Street Motors Ford Saloon Car Championship
RACE 7
15:00 - 15:20



http://www.dees.co.uk Ford Fiesta Championship
RACE 8
15:30 - 15:50



Pickup Truck Racing
RACE 9
16:05 - 16:35 35 laps

MAC Tools V8 Trophy
RACE 10
16:45 - 17:15 35 laps

Old Stock Nut
15th August 2007, 13:20
So ....

13:22 - National Anthem
13:24 - Red Arrows
13:26 - PUTs GSYE

Almost like NASCAR......

Well I can dream can't I

deadsquirrel
15th August 2007, 14:17
Personally, I think this weekend will be a GOOD one. There's likely to be of the order of 10,000 people there, and I assume that there will be plenty of stalls/exhibits/racing/speed related stuff going on over the weekend. This is GOOD to expose our style of racing to a set of people who are likely to get a fix from it and may return to future events and who have a strong interest in FORD stuff.

Also, the support races (Mill Street Motors particularly) are good fast entertaining cars.

I agree you won't (probably) want to be sat in the grandstand for 3 hours on Sunday morning, but that's a good chance to surf the paddock, the outer paddock 'show', catch up with friends (don't forget the free coffee at Team Networking) etc.

My rosetinted glasses went a long time ago, but I think being part of these 'weekends' is GOOD, and may boost future crowd numbers.

Tiesse
15th August 2007, 14:29
Personally, I think this weekend will be a GOOD one. There's likely to be of the order of 10,000 people there, and I assume that there will be plenty of stalls/exhibits/racing/speed related stuff going on over the weekend. This is GOOD to expose our style of racing to a set of people who are likely to get a fix from it and may return to future events and who have a strong interest in FORD stuff.

Also, the support races (Mill Street Motors particularly) are good fast entertaining cars.

I agree you won't (probably) want to be sat in the grandstand for 3 hours on Sunday morning, but that's a good chance to surf the paddock, the outer paddock 'show', catch up with friends (don't forget the free coffee at Team Networking) etc.

My rosetinted glasses went a long time ago, but I think being part of these 'weekends' is GOOD, and may boost future crowd numbers.

I do agree with a lot of what you say, but how are we going to take make the most of the opportunity if the Owners club members are not aware of the racing taking place as well?

We should not rely on the members just milling around & discovering the cars at the weekend. Lets face it, a majority of the visitors shall be there for the Ford day, which I assume will include displays etc outside of the main stand. The tunnels to the paddock aren't that obvious to thiose people who haven't been to Rockingham before & the likelyhood is that they will take to the grandstands.

Would there be any mileage in having one of the SCSA cars & a PUT that aren't racing at the weekend on display around the main concourse by the grandstand? Many of these boy racers are petrol heads & the opportunity for a photo sitting in one of the V8s & getting up close to the teams in the paddock will no doubt be a draw to them. We need to embrace the opportunity that we are no doubt being presented with at the weekend.

Abo
15th August 2007, 14:38
Would there be any mileage in having one of the SCSA cars & a PUT that aren't racing at the weekend on display around the main concourse by the grandstand? Many of these boy racers are petrol heads & the opportunity for a photo sitting in one of the V8s & getting up close to the teams in the paddock will no doubt be a draw to them. We need to embrace the opportunity that we are no doubt being presented with at the weekend.

It'd have to be a Taurus V8 and a Zetec Pickup though ;) They won't touch the GM stuff...

deadsquirrel
15th August 2007, 14:46
I do agree with a lot of what you say, but how are we going to take make the most of the opportunity if the Owners club members are not aware of the racing taking place as well?

These are sensible people - they're FORD fanatics, they can find the tunnels! :)

I'm sure they'll be aware of the racing, and once aware I think they'll be blown away as most 'newbies' to Rockingham are. I think it IS important that they leave the place knowing how/when/where etc they can come back to see more (and that includes the F3/GT weekend)

Dave17
15th August 2007, 16:38
I'm now wishing I'd volunteered to marshal the 750MC weekend at Silverstone. A four hour "track day" on Sunday morning (I thought marshals were paid for them???) and no lunch break in the program. I am an ardent Rock supporter but there is only so much a marshal can take and the BRSCC are nearing my limit.
Yes there will be displays etc and yes the spectators can wander round the paddock but we have to stay put on post watching a load of numties on a jolly who maybe don't even know we're there let alone what flag signals mean. http://smilies.vidahost.com/otn/angry/zx11pissed.gif

car20
15th August 2007, 18:14
Even if there are 600 cars and 10,000 car clubbers around this sunday I bet at 13.21 there will be very long line to get out the place,

NOT meaning to upset anyone here but those that do stay around, yes the pickup's will delight... but the sight of only 10 v8's won't have them coming back(SORRY to be blunt) EVEN die hard v8's fans find it hard to come back, :(

I suppose the brscc will make a bit and rockingham, that will keep the place going for a while.

HEY i have an idea why don't we let parents pay £10 and let them push baby prams around the oval it will make money!

well we can only educate those that don't know that it is there to enjoy and only hope that come back?

does any one know if chris robbo has found some budget to come out this sunday?

Speedworx
15th August 2007, 19:05
May leave before the end of race 2 to get home for NASCAR at 6pm.

theoffy
15th August 2007, 19:27
Lay off the FORD fanatics, I have always owned a Ford but will be there Sunday to support the V8's and PUT's. I normally stay quiet but needed to say something.

I come from Worcester and as most know the last meet was horrible for us to get to, floods etc but was there, missing the early V8 race which left me let down but no I thought it was just a one off but this week is nearly as bad.

I know it is a Theme weekend but the BRSCC advertise using the V8's and I do feel that despite all the hard work going on behind the scene by the teams, that a fan like me does not see, it will not change the promoters view.

We are caught in a catch 22, if we stay quiet we get ignored as obviously we don't care, and if we rant we will be ignored as a bunch of interfering motorheads.

fastbob
15th August 2007, 19:47
Lay off the FORD fanatics, I have always owned a Ford but will be there Sunday to support the V8's and PUT's.


If i'm not mistaken the PUT's are vaguely based on a USA Ford pick up body shape, there are some Ford engined PUT's and last time I checked there was ASCAR's based on Ford body shapes..... should give the "fanatics" some interest in what we do!!!!

LessThanSte
15th August 2007, 21:07
Further to someone elses suggestion, if your worried about noone finding the tunnels, how about having the v8 garage area behind the main grandstand. I'd guarantee there would be even MORE people milling around, especially those parents who cant usually be bothered walking over to the paddock!

racing59
15th August 2007, 21:52
Since when did it take an hour to get from Corby to Raunds?

I take just over an hour from Corby to Potton in sunny Bedfordshire!!!

As for them running away with only 10 cars on the grid for the v8's - it's not that long ago that the Ford Saloons only had 10-16 cars on the grid (at certain circuits).

Rob.

racing59
15th August 2007, 21:54
If i'm not mistaken the PUT's are vaguely based on a USA Ford pick up body shape, there are some Ford engined PUT's and last time I checked there was ASCAR's based on Ford body shapes..... should give the "fanatics" some interest in what we do!!!!

If you look at the early PUT's, then look at the front end of a SHP HotRod Nova from that era.

It has evolved though.

Rob.

deadsquirrel
16th August 2007, 09:12
Lay off the FORD fanatics, I have always owned a Ford but will be there Sunday to support the V8's and PUT's. I normally stay quiet but needed to say something.

As it was I that introduced 'Fanatic' to this thread, I should add that I added it in a good way - I've always been a Ford Fanatic, and will always support a Ford in any race. I don't think anyone has intentionally 'slandered' any RS owners.

theoffy
16th August 2007, 10:52
No slandering done, it was the effect of hard work and a bottle (or two) of beer that maybe made me 'mis-read' your comment.

Look on the good side, where else could you get free advertising to 10,000 people and have the product in their face, even if only a few are turned it will be worth it

Gavin

LessThanSte
16th August 2007, 13:24
Since when did it take an hour to get from Corby to Raunds?


You clearly havnt seen how Simon drives. Infact, the fastest he's ever gone is in NASCAR Racing 2003, where he is usually doing about 150mph, backwards, towards a wall!

melonhead
16th August 2007, 13:54
Venturing slightly back on topic for a moment, the BRSCC website now has an active link to the timetable for the weekend and also the final instructions are posted.

I do have a query though, the timetable shown (Issue #6, 14th Aug), shows no Mac Tools V8 Trophy race on Saturday, whilst the timetable embedded in the final instructions (I'm unable to spot a date or version thus far!) shows that we do have a race on Saturday.

Just wondering if anyone more in the know than me could advise which is correct?

Cheers,

Matt

leftturnracer
16th August 2007, 14:32
Good call..



GRRRRR... Decided after the last meeting .. ahumm.. nuff said and the threat of rain I would hold off buying my tickets for as long as possible. So just rang the ticket hotline who didn't have a clue what I was on about .. when they did find it they told me .. sorry tickets on the door only now...
Nothing on the web site about a time deadline for advance tickets.. I have bought them on a Thursday before and collected from the circuit office saving a couple of quid .. Rockingham!?!?! .. I have been coming to Rockingham since 2001 been to most ASCAR/DoT/SCSA races but this is only the second time I have come since the BRSCC took over!! Not too impressed so far guys! Spent last year working in the States so got to see some great short track racing. I had almost forgotten what a cracking facility Rockingham is.

Tiesse
16th August 2007, 14:32
Venturing slightly back on topic for a moment, the BRSCC website now has an active link to the timetable for the weekend and also the final instructions are posted.

I do have a query though, the timetable shown (Issue #6, 14th Aug), shows no Mac Tools V8 Trophy race on Saturday, whilst the timetable embedded in the final instructions (I'm unable to spot a date or version thus far!) shows that we do have a race on Saturday.

Just wondering if anyone more in the know than me could advise which is correct?

Cheers,

Matt

I had an email from Dominic at BRSCC (as all season ticket holders get I believe).

It says that there is now no SCSA race on Saturday, I would quote from the email, but I have deleted it now, sorry!

Maybe another season ticket holder can post more details of the email.

LessThanSte
16th August 2007, 15:24
Good call..



GRRRRR... Decided after the last meeting .. ahumm.. nuff said and the threat of rain I would hold off buying my tickets for as long as possible. So just rang the ticket hotline who didn't have a clue what I was on about .. when they did find it they told me .. sorry tickets on the door only now...
Nothing on the web site about a time deadline for advance tickets.. I have bought them on a Thursday before and collected from the circuit office saving a couple of quid .. Rockingham!?!?! .. I have been coming to Rockingham since 2001 been to most ASCAR/DoT/SCSA races but this is only the second time I have come since the BRSCC took over!! Not too impressed so far guys! Spent last year working in the States so got to see some great short track racing. I had almost forgotten what a cracking facility Rockingham is.

Ive seen it mentioned in the past that tickets are bookable, in advance, up til the wednesday prior to the meeting. After that, its gate only!

car20
16th August 2007, 17:14
Dear Season Pass holder,

I am writing to let you know that there have been a few changes to the timetable for Rockingham this weekend. A copy of the revised timetable is below. The key points to note are that there will not be an SCSA race on Saturday, although there will be untimed practice & qualifying for both the SCSA’s and Pickups.

On Sunday it is the RS Owners Club National Day and they have use of the track all morning. Therefore the racing doesn’t start until 1.30pm. The RS Owners Club has asked us to let you know that they have availability for track sessions on Saturday afternoon & Sunday morning, which are now open to the general public. The Saturday session costs £50 and the Sunday session costs £115. For more information or to book contact the RS Owners Club on 08702 406215.

We are also expecting a fly past from the Red Arrows on Sunday afternoon

melonhead
16th August 2007, 17:16
Ok - shame that.

Cheers folks.

car20
16th August 2007, 17:22
timetable in pdf form on brscc website is the one that i have on email just that my pc won't let me copy and paste but i would email brscc incase they decide to change it again

Speedworx
16th August 2007, 20:58
Since when did it take an hour to get from Corby to Raunds?

I take just over an hour from Corby to Potton in sunny Bedfordshire!!!

As for them running away with only 10 cars on the grid for the v8's - it's not that long ago that the Ford Saloons only had 10-16 cars on the grid (at certain circuits).

Rob.

It doesn't. I just know that unless its raining. I doubt racing will be done on schedule.

Speedworx
16th August 2007, 21:00
Further to someone elses suggestion, if your worried about noone finding the tunnels, how about having the v8 garage area behind the main grandstand. I'd guarantee there would be even MORE people milling around, especially those parents who cant usually be bothered walking over to the paddock!

Says the man who got himself dq'ed

LessThanSte
17th August 2007, 06:05
touche

jonv
17th August 2007, 08:15
Is the morning session completely out of use for the Pickups and SCSA ? In the event of bad weather do they just have to fit into the afternoon session. I don't suppose moving the Ford track time around is an option.

LessThanSte
17th August 2007, 16:12
Well, apparently theres some spaces left in the track day so i guess, if it looks like its going to be miserable in the afternoon, some of the v8's could go out for a drive in the morning ;)