Will Kyle even get a drive next year? [Archive]

jeffmr2

20th July 2007, 15:39

Being a Kyle Busch fan i'm starting to worry about whats going to happen next year with all the talk thats going on:

If DEI buy GINN will that result in more drivers than cars with ther e being Truex,Mennard,Mark Martin,Almirola,Regan Smith

If Penske run Hornish full time in nextel cup,is that Kyles seat there gone? I didnt think Kurt seemed too keen on him joining anyway.

If Kevin Harvick doesnt want Kyle as a team mate does he have enough influence over Childers to block him joining?

What are relations like between Kyle and Kasey Khane,i remember Khane deliberately taking him out a few years ago.What is team morale like at evernham with the cars running as bad as they are and Ray shagging theyre development driver (if thats erins position the team) ?

After what happend with Tony and Hamlin recently,could Tony Stewart cope with having another young talented teammate?

To me there seem to be negatives attached to all the top teams and to be honest i think some of Kyles recent comments havent helped matters.

I think it would be great for nascar if he gets a competitive car next year as he's got the talent and motivation to give the 4 hendrick cars a run for theyre money next year.

Kyle Petty couldnt praise Kyle Busch enough during his recent stint as race commentator,maybe he'll give Busch a drive? what odds on that happening lol!!

Sparky1329

20th July 2007, 15:49

Kyle is his own worst enemy. He can wheel a race car with the best of them but he's a PR nightmare. His continual whining and smartazz comments aren't helping his effort one bit. Who would seriously want a teammate who behaves like he does?

Jonesi

20th July 2007, 16:46

I agree, if DEI & Ginn merge/buyout there's no room there for Kyle. If not he's got to still be on the short list for #8 seat, and wasn't he one of the drivers Bud wanted.

I agree, that if Hornish wants to move to Cup next year that seats gone. He was on NascarNow yesterday and said he was 50/50 on it.

Joe Gibbs never let his quarterbacks pick their teammates and I don't think he'll let Tony do that either. But I don't see him signing anyone or planing an expansion until his engine/mftr for next year is settled.

Childress, see above. Although Harvick comes off very arrogant in interviews, I think he's mature enough to make it work if it happens.

You left off Ganassi.

Evernham probably has too many other problems to expand now, but the #10 might be open next year.

RGM, Robby keeps saying he wants another car, and with Kyle he could find the sponsorship.

Any Toyota team would probably make room him, just because he can qualify.

He's too much a talent to end up without a ride. Worse case he goes to a team without the resources to expand imediately and has to do a full Busch/partial Cup thing for a year while they get ready.

RaceFanStan

20th July 2007, 16:49

If you watch Kyle Busch on the track you have to be impressed with him. :eek:
Kyle Busch has many things going for him :
1. his aggressive style creates excitement
2. his obvious exceptional driving talent is top tier
3. his young age is a sponsor's delight
Kyle Busch's only fault is his personality.

Kyle Busch doesn't want to be in his older brother's shadow, so don't expect them to be team-mates.
Kyle Busch will get a ride for 2008 & I expect it will be with a top team. :D :up:

DEI needs a driver to replace Dale Jr, Kyle Busch might be a good fit there but ...
I feel Kyle Busch could get a better fit @ Roush Racing.
If I was Jack Roush, I would want Kyle Busch in the #6.
I would send David Ragan back to the Busch or Truck Series to get some more experience.

Another possible seat would be in the #19 @ Evernham MotorSports.
Elliott Sadler hasn't performed up to expectations & I suspect his seat is in jeopardy. :eek:

ShadowCar

20th July 2007, 17:31

Honestly, I think Kyle's best option is DEI for many reasons. He gets along fine with Martin and Paul is pretty laid back so I don't think he'd have personal issues with those guys.

I think he'd relish getting into the #8 and sticking it to Dale Jr. He's pretty bitter toward him. I don't see Bud wanting Kyle but I'm sure they could get a sponsor for him.

I think DEI would throw every resource at him for him to win in the #8 for the same reason....stick it to Junior. I can see this as a big motivator for Teresa to take an interest in the racing side of the company, for a while at least.

Ironically, I don't think Junior gives a hoot what they do. He's happy with his new ride, will live with or without the #8 and has moved on.

Should prove interesting for Kyle. I bet this whole thing has been a bit of a shock to him. When you're as young as he is, and as coddled as he was, then when reality hits, it hurts big time. He messed with probably the only big dog that could've shaken him from his seat...and lost. Why he didn't camp on Hendrick's door step to get that extension signed the minute Junior became available, is a mystery to me.

muggle not

20th July 2007, 18:44

Ganassi or Penske.

RaceFanStan

20th July 2007, 19:16

.......
Why he didn't camp on Hendrick's door step to get that extension signed the minute Junior became available, is a mystery to me.
I think Kyle Busch was falsely over-secure that he had the #5 seat locked-up.
Kyle made an error in judgement by being over-confident.
However Kyle Busch is very smart, my guess is he learned from the experience.
Kyle Busch will be sure to be more aware of his standing with the team & the owner in the future. :D

Sparky1329

20th July 2007, 21:23

I think Kyle Busch was falsely over-secure that he had the #5 seat locked-up.
Kyle made an error in judgement by being over-confident.
However Kyle Busch is very smart, my guess is he learned from the experience.
Kyle Busch will be sure to be more aware of his standing with the team & the owner in the future. :D

What a judicious way to say, "because he was arrogant.". :D

Jonesi

20th July 2007, 21:58

snip...I feel Kyle Busch could get a better fit @ Roush Racing.
If I was Jack Roush, I would want Kyle Busch in the #6.
I would send David Ragan back to the Busch or Truck Series to get some more experience.

Another possible seat would be in the #19 @ Evernham MotorSports.
Elliott Sadler hasn't performed up to expectations & I suspect his seat is in jeopardy. :eek:

David Ragan is doing alright this year, he's #2 rookie only 103 points and 2 positions behind Montoya, who's got 10 racing years experience on him.
Elliott Sadler is highest standing Evernham car 54 points ahead of Kahne. All the Evernham cars havn't performed up to expectations this year and the problem isn't the drivers.

Aussie12

20th July 2007, 23:07

I agree that Kyle talked himself out of the #5 seat. Everybody expected the Junior was to drive the #25, so Busch the Younger must have done or said something to make HMS re-evaluate his contract. :arrows:

He’d do well at DEI: I think Tony Eury Jr would be the crew chief that could get the best out of him, and if DEI is looking for someone with a profile to match Junior’s, I think Busch the Younger would be their best bet.

...After what happend with Tony and Hamlin recently,could Tony Stewart cope with having another young talented teammate?...

Personally, I’d like to see him with JGR. I’d just like to see the fireworks and possible punch ups. :D Seriously, I think he needs someone with a bigger and stronger will/ego than him to keep him humble and Tony Stewart would be that guy. :champion:

I’m interested to know, jeffmr2, as a Kyle Busch fan, how do you feel about his recent behaviour towards his fellow teammates and his statements about HMS?

call_me_andrew

21st July 2007, 02:13

He can get a job no problem. I'm sure Yates, MWR, Red Bull, Bill Davis, or any other back marker would be glad to have him.

harvick#1

21st July 2007, 03:37

hes too talented not to be with a team. just like Kobe :p :

blakebeatty

21st July 2007, 04:38

Yup, he will get a ride, virtually every team with less than four cars wants to expand this year. The only thing that is to be determined is the quality of the ride. He will certainly not improve his position in the sport, he needs to do what he can to stop the bleeding

blakebeatty

21st July 2007, 04:41

After what happend with Tony and Hamlin recently,could Tony Stewart cope with having another young talented teammate?

Also, I think that Tony's days are numbered. He is not the future of the sport. He will not be able to cope with the stress of the big circus for long.

Mark in Oshawa

21st July 2007, 17:39

Kyle Busch doesn't want to be in his older brother's shadow, so don't expect them to be team-mates.
Kyle Busch will get a ride for 2008 & I expect it will be with a top team. :D :up:

DEI needs a driver to replace Dale Jr, Kyle Busch might be a good fit there but ...
I feel Kyle Busch could get a better fit @ Roush Racing.
If I was Jack Roush, I would want Kyle Busch in the #6.
I would send David Ragan back to the Busch or Truck Series to get some more experience.

Another possible seat would be in the #19 @ Evernham MotorSports.
Elliott Sadler hasn't performed up to expectations & I suspect his seat is in jeopardy. :eek:

umm Stan, Roush isn't into PR nightmares. He had enough of Kyle's brother, and Kurt is a little more restrained for the most part with the press than Kyle is. I doubt Roush would take on Kyle. What is more, Kyle left Roush's development plan to jump to Hendricks in the first place, and Jack doesn't take to that sort of disloyalty. I figure he goes to Roush when snowballs survive in hell.....

AS for Evernham, well, Sadler has sucked but so has Kahne, and yet we know Kasey can drive the wheels of a car if it will co-operate. So I would hardly say Sadler is in danger....but then again, any team owner outside of Roush and Hendricks would be NUTS not to consider Kyle Busch. Just you have to beat him daily to say the right things in public. The kid just has no filter on his brain to filter out out the BS....

jeffmr2

21st July 2007, 20:02

Personally, I’d like to see him with JGR. I’d just like to see the fireworks and possible punch ups. :D Seriously, I think he needs someone with a bigger and stronger will/ego than him to keep him humble and Tony Stewart would be that guy. :champion:

I’m interested to know, jeffmr2, as a Kyle Busch fan, how do you feel about his recent behaviour towards his fellow teammates and his statements about HMS?

I'd also like to see him at JGR purely because the are imo the second best team in nascar,or failing that DEI as i think both Truex jr and Paul Mennard are cool!!

Obviously Kyles comments havent helped his cause but i agreed with what he said after Daytona,his teammates could have helped but decided not to and loved the way he said he's going to do his best to beat his teammates single handedly. I thought Jeff Gordons post race behaviuor was far worse than Kyles,it was terrible how he seemed to take so much pleasure and praised Mcmurrey so much for the race win,these are not the words and attitude of a good team mate.I thought he should have had a right bollocking off Hendrick for that.Maybe Gordon acted like this just to wind Kyle up even more,although i somehow doubt he has enough intelligence to think of doing that!!

I though Kyle was in the wrong at Chicago,yes Alan Gustaffson made a bad call but he has been a great crew chief and has worked really well with Kyle.Kyle should have shown him more respect as i dont think that it was done to deliberatly lose the race.

Jimmie48instyle

21st July 2007, 20:33

Klye won't have a problem getting a new ride for 2008 "with a much needed personality adjustment!"

Nancy

harvick#1

21st July 2007, 20:56

I think Kyle can win in any car, I mean it, outside of the like Morgan Shepards team.

the kid is so stinkin talented and I think hes gonna have a brighter attitude in behaviour than people think, this year, hes trying to slam Hendrick Motorsports for every little mistake. why is he doin this, to piss of Hendrick himself and try and break the teams apart to try and crumble the team.

Daytona showed how far he would go, it was Bowyer in the lead with the 4 Hendrick cars right behind, they all went high except for Kyle, He wants to show up Hendrick every race and I don't think he wants any of the three to come close in winning any of the remaining races. he feels he got the cold shoulder for a guy who is too busy living on his daddy's name.

Jr. is not that great, most of his career wins came only on plate tracks when DEI was still miles ahead of everyone on the plate tracks. I can still be wrong, but for being Mr. superstar, you'd think he could back it up like Big E did. by taken a 15-20th place car to getting a top 5. I don't see that in Jr. he complains about the car everytime

theres my rant of the day :p :

ShadowCar

21st July 2007, 23:40

Rapier Racer

21st July 2007, 23:58

Being a Kyle Busch fan i'm starting to worry about whats going to happen next year with all the talk thats going on:

Yes, your not the only one :eek: I seriously think he needs to shut up a bit till he gets a contract signed with a new team, then by all means, he may speak his mind again :D

And stop having a go at Hendrick, before the 5 car mysteriously starts to develop serious technical problems every week.

Aussie12

22nd July 2007, 00:37

Also, I think that Tony's days are numbered. He is not the future of the sport. He will not be able to cope with the stress of the big circus for long.

I'm very respectfully disagreeing. Tony may not be the future of the sport, but he is the NOW of the sport and he's been handling the motor-racing circus since his first karting championship in 1980 when he was eight years old. Two more “international” Karting championships followed in 1983 and 1987. Smoke then move to three-quarter open wheel midgets when he was USAC Rookie of the Year in 1991. He won the National Midget, Sprint and Silver Crown titles all in the same year, a feat never accomplished by anyone before Stewart. He was IndyCar Rookie of the Year in 1996 and then won the championship in 1997 – the same year as he also drove in the Busch Series for the first time . He won the Cup Series championship in 2002 and 2005… I think Smoke is fine with the “pressure” and his solid relationship with JGR isn’t going to change, but I s’pose only time will tell…

dwboogityfan

23rd July 2007, 21:34

Looking at it logically I think there are a few seats that could become available for Kyle.
His options could be:-
Evernham - #10? Riggs has been a frequent disapointment.
Penske - New team? If Hornish Jr doesn't want the ride this would be a good fit.
Petty - 45? I think Kyle may retire soon and Busch would be a good pick. It wouldn't surprise me to see Petty and Marlin share the #45 next season though.
DEI - 8? Depends on what they do with Ginn.
Ganassi - Sorenson and Stremme could both be under pressure but Busch can surely do better.
Robert Yates - If Ricky Rudd retires (again) this could be an option.
RCR - If the 4th RCR team happens then this could be a good move for Kyle although I wouldn't be surprised to see Scott Wimmer in this ride.
Finally Toyota - There could be openings at BDR, MWR and Red Bull Racing and Kyle would be a huge coup for Toyota. I think he may end up in a Toyota.

muggle not

24th July 2007, 03:06

Maybe kyle should read "Garfield" a little more:

http://i14.tinypic.com/540g2hk.jpg

Sparky1329

24th July 2007, 03:52

Maybe kyle should read "Garfield" a little more:

http://i14.tinypic.com/540g2hk.jpg

Perfect!

MD24

27th July 2007, 19:57

Larry McReynolds:
Contrary to what keeps zigging and zagging around, I am hearing that the Kyle Busch deal at Joe Gibbs Racing is very close. Now, we don't have an answer on whether they're looking to put him in the No. 18 car, replacing J.J. Yeley, or if they are looking at Busch for a fourth team. We do know that Joe Gibbs Racing — a lot like DEI — has been contemplating a fourth team for a while. Like Richard Childress, Joe Gibbs would be a great owner for Kyle because Richard and Joe keep a close watch on their drivers. Gibbs made a phenomenal statement by flying to Chicagoland Speedway for one reason and one reason only, making sure he sorted out the issue between Tony Stewart and Denny Hamlin.

and

http://www.captainthunderracing.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2494

muggle not

28th July 2007, 01:42

Yeah, I'm hearing that too. Kyle to sign with JGR. He appears to have eliminated DEI.

If DEI was smart they would put Regan Smith in one of the cars.

Jonesi

28th July 2007, 03:03

Yeah, I'm hearing that too. Kyle to sign with JGR. He appears to have eliminated DEI.

If DEI was smart they would put Regan Smith in one of the cars.

He's probably Plan B, if they can't get an established marquee driver.

Jonesi

12th August 2007, 23:23

ESPN just said Kyle's deal with #18 will be announced on Tuesday morning.

call_me_andrew

12th August 2007, 23:40

Maybe all this Joe Gibbs talk is just to distract us while he makes a deal with Bill Davis.

Jonesi

12th August 2007, 23:50

Maybe all this Joe Gibbs talk is just to distract us while he makes a deal with Bill Davis.

I doubt it, some high profile driver moved Yeley out of the #18 (and I don't think it was Biffle.)

Chandler

13th August 2007, 21:10

Also, I think that Tony's days are numbered. He is not the future of the sport. He will not be able to cope with the stress of the big circus for long.

And I suppose winning two titles and making a strong bid for a few more is no real big deal either, right? Seriously, do you have any actual facts to back this statement up, or are you just spouting out crap? I disagree with people all the time on here (muggle your the best!), but this might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board.

If you are going to say you don't like Smoke, because you like another driver, fine. I'm cool with that, cause I can't stand Jeff Gordon or Jimmie Johnson. I don't say they can't handle the pressure though, because I know they can drive the wheels off a race car. They have proven it. But don't say someone can't handle the pressure because you don't like them... Have some facts, man.

IMSAFAN1

14th August 2007, 16:48

JGR had a press conference this morning to annouce that Busch will be driving the number 18 car next year.

jeffmr2

14th August 2007, 21:39

Awesome news,im glad and relieved its official.
Next question is when/if jr fails to make the chase will he take over kyles seat for the last 10 races of the season?

Jonesi

14th August 2007, 22:35

Awesome news,im glad and relieved its official.
Next question is when/if jr fails to make the chase will he take over kyles seat for the last 10 races of the season?

Not a chance! It's the driver who qualifies for "The Chase" and gets the 1300-1800 point bump. DE jr in #5 would still be racing for 13th place. A fired Kyle Busch would probably end up in a 4th JGR car for The Chase. Realistically the only way Kyle's out of #5 early is if he does something very embarrassing like his brother did with a suspected DUI.